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Post by Beach Lover Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:36 am

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babs wrote:In Josh's defense, maybe he isn't so quick with his temper.  I didn't watch Andi's season so I didn't see him in action but I know my husband is a pretty mellow guy until pushed to the brink and then he will bite back.  Maybe being with Andi brought out another side to Josh that isn't there with anyone else.  Did any of his exes come out and say what their relationship was like with him?  Andi seems to me that she likes to push buttons to get attention and she does it very well.

Josh's brother, Aaron mentioned Josh's firey temper at one time.   I think he is very aware and controlled in front of the cameras and away from them maybe not so much.  Do I think he is a totally bad guy, NO but I also don't think he's the greatest guy  people paint him as either.

But who is painting him as the greatest guy? I think far more people after reading Andi's book are painting him just the opposite.  He's human and I think he knows it and his family and friends know it.  Obsessed fans are going to say things about how great they think he is, but all these pseudo celebs have fans that put them on a pedestal. even when they should't be. Namely one particular ex.



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Post by nannymargie Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:37 am

Beach Lover wrote:^^^^ Yes, to all that babs!!!

Andi's book was written like a prosecutor giving a closing argument. She manipulated every situation, argument etc. to make even Josh's good qualities seem like flaws or red flags.  I think he has a temper for sure, but I think the Joshbear came out in full force with Andi's nastiness.  

And no, none of his exes have ever come out and said anything negative about him. Just Andi.

Alanna, Love your snark always but I took Josh's professions of love on the show differently than you. I think he overused the phrase "love more than anything" about Andi, his mom, his family etc. etc. but it was just a phrase to mean he really, really loved something. I don't think it was meant as an actual ranking. I say that sometimes about random things, like food. "I love cookie dough ice cream more than anything!" But I actually don't mean it.

I know a lot of people do not like Andi but you can't blame everything or Josh's temper on her.  Sure I am sure she gave her share as well but I do not place all the blame on her.


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Post by Beach Lover Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:40 am

nannymargie wrote:
Beach Lover wrote:^^^^ Yes, to all that babs!!!

Andi's book was written like a prosecutor giving a closing argument. She manipulated every situation, argument etc. to make even Josh's good qualities seem like flaws or red flags.  I think he has a temper for sure, but I think the Joshbear came out in full force with Andi's nastiness.  

And no, none of his exes have ever come out and said anything negative about him. Just Andi.

Alanna, Love your snark always but I took Josh's professions of love on the show differently than you. I think he overused the phrase "love more than anything" about Andi, his mom, his family etc. etc. but it was just a phrase to mean he really, really loved something. I don't think it was meant as an actual ranking. I say that sometimes about random things, like food. "I love cookie dough ice cream more than anything!" But I actually don't mean it.

I know a lot of people do not like Andi but you can't blame everything or Josh's temper on her.  Sure I am sure she gave her share as well but I do not place all the blame on her.

I don't think she or her fans have put ANY blame on her. It's all Josh's fault.
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Post by babs Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:44 am

nannymargie wrote:
Beach Lover wrote:^^^^ Yes, to all that babs!!!

Andi's book was written like a prosecutor giving a closing argument. She manipulated every situation, argument etc. to make even Josh's good qualities seem like flaws or red flags.  I think he has a temper for sure, but I think the Joshbear came out in full force with Andi's nastiness.  

And no, none of his exes have ever come out and said anything negative about him. Just Andi.

Alanna, Love your snark always but I took Josh's professions of love on the show differently than you. I think he overused the phrase "love more than anything" about Andi, his mom, his family etc. etc. but it was just a phrase to mean he really, really loved something. I don't think it was meant as an actual ranking. I say that sometimes about random things, like food. "I love cookie dough ice cream more than anything!" But I actually don't mean it.

I know a lot of people do not like Andi but you can't blame everything or Josh's temper on her.  Sure I am sure she gave her share as well but I do not place all the blame on her.

Like I said, I didn't watch her season but I have read a lot about her and I blame her for writing a one sided book and blaming 3 men for all the wrongs done. Does she want me to believe she was some innocent damsel in all her relationships? Sorry, I have been around to long to fall for that. Even if she did admit wrong doing, I don't respect anyone that kisses and tells. She could have written about her experience as the Bachelorette without bashing anyone. The only recourse for these men to defend themselves is to write their own book and then we still have a he said she said. It's so ridiculous and childish.
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Post by Southerngal Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:48 am

I don't think the blame can all be on andi either. Josh seems to also have trouble in his relationships with close friends. He unfollowed Chad and maybe they made up a little, but he never refollowed him and they never hang out anymore. And I noticed he and Stephen ochs just recently unfollowed each other on ig. They were good friends, so something must have obviously happened. I think Josh is a pretty good guy overall, but he has flaws and is immature. IMO!

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Post by Alanna Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:52 am

Southerngal wrote:I don't think the blame can all be on andi either.  Josh seems to also have trouble in his relationships with close friends.  He unfollowed Chad and maybe they made up a little, but he never refollowed him and they never hang out anymore.  And I noticed he and Stephen ochs just recently unfollowed each other on ig.  They were good friends, so something must have obviously happened.  I think Josh is a pretty good guy overall, but he has  flaws and is immature.  IMO!
Woah!! What happened to Chad??

This is what I get for unfollowing him and forgetting about this family for 2 years. Stupid, A, stupid!!


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Post by babs Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:53 am

southerngal, I don't blame Andi for Josh's behavior, like I don't blame Josh for Andi's behavior.  Each are responsible for their own actions.  I just think that Andi took it to far by writing a tell all, one sided, book.  We all have had bad break ups but I know I didn't go around telling the world all my dirty laundry.  It was a cheap shot, in my opinion.

Edited to add.............I don't know who Chad and this other guy is. Are they friends, or were friends, of his?
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Post by bleuberry Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:57 am

We need to look no further than him briefly unfollowing his own family on SM laugh out loud. Was MM apart of that mass unfollowing too?


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Post by Alanna Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:59 am

babs wrote:southerngal, I don't blame Andi for Josh's behavior, like I don't blame Josh for Andi's behavior.  Each are responsible for their own actions.  I just think that Andi took it to far by writing a tell all, one sided, book.  We all have had bad break ups but I know I didn't go around telling the world all my dirty laundry.  It was a cheap shot, in my opinion.

Edited to add.............I don't know who Chad and this other guy is.  Are they friends, or were friends, of his?
Chad was his best friend who got him into Advo and helped call his brothers ex fiancée a ho on Twitter. It was glorious and quite klassy as is everything with these peeps.

Southerngal, we're waiting laugh out loud!!!


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Post by Southerngal Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:59 am

No clue what happened to Chad. I think he got thrown in the discard pile with andi, Kacie, Chandler, and now Stephen. Kind of like that little dog in Josh's video last night.

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Post by Alanna Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:00 am

Southerngal wrote:No clue what happened to Chad. I think he got thrown in the discard pile with andi, Kacie, Chandler, and now Stephen.  Kind of like that little dog in Josh's video last night.
Gotcha!! Sounds about par for the course. On to bigger and better things!!

Bleu!!! Yes!!! I forgot he unfollowed his favorite girl ever when Kacie and Aaron got engaged!! Ha!! First family of my entertainment. I adore them.


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Post by Kashathediva Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:03 am

bleuberry wrote:We need to look no further than him briefly unfollowing his own family on SM laugh out loud. Was MM apart of that mass unfollowing too?
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