Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #4

I'm just going to say, that whatever we think of RS, he's a big name in all reality shows for spoilers. What I've read, he takes his info and doesn't give credit when someone else has got the info before him, but he's a huge reality show 'name' and not just for bachelor. I believe his site is a full time job, and he gets a lot of $$ too. So IMO it's not unheard of that anyone would contact him with reality spoilers/info or follow him and his spoilers, because he's the name for them right now. Jmo.

A quarterbacks little brother is one of the lowest levels of fame there is. He's never really gotten the top-level tail, and I can't imagine that's going to change much even after his sham engagement implodes.

He could eventually go the evangelical route. He's got the hair for it.

Haha just saw Grant on Bumble right now, so yea it's true...everyone these days uses dating apps IMO, tinder hinge, bumble, Raya etc. I've also seen Nick who was eliminated the first night this season, and Ian from last year, Jef holm, and others on dating apps. Ben flajnik met his fiancé on tinder. So it's not weird Jordan was on it, and IMO he thought it wouldn't get out because Raya is supposed to be exclusive/discreet.

Really curious if he can still turn this around or goodbye broadcasting career?

So I can't believe I've decided to jump into the fray as I mostly lurk on this site. I don't know or really care about most of the Jordan stories and I haven't read them in detail (only what's been posted here).

I do tend to believe him on the Raya thing for a few simple reasons:

1) His story is not that polished. Perhaps I'm being naive but if he was really trying to lie wouldn't he make sure that all of the inconsistencies matched up? The February thing vs. March 11th active date for example.

2) The e-mail he shared from Apple seems genuine. I know the "Apple big-wig" claimed the following in her e-mail to RS "Now to the real zinger why he is lying. Apple does not send subscription reminders for products that are not apple created apps. He fabricated a subscription reminder e-mail for an apple created app" Well I just checked my e-mails and I have e-mails from the iTunes Store reminding me about subscription charges for Evernote, Endomondo (Fitness App) and HBO Now (both of these are not Apple products). Granted these are from last year so perhaps this is a new policy but I doubt it.

I'm not going to screen shot it because I don't want to bother taking off my personal info but here's what the e-mail states:

Dear XXX.

Just a reminder that your subscription to Running and Walking with Endomondo will automatically renew on 7/23/15 and you will be charged $25.99 at that time.

You can view the details of your subscription or change your auto-renewal settings at any time from your account settings.

Regards

The iTunes Store Team.


3) I also tend to think the Raya e-mail is genuine although I don't have any proof either way. It seems too brazen to think that he would fake that and not be caught. Also, I can see how it works with the timeline he stated. He agrees to filming and logs on to the site to make it inactive or whatever. That would make it the last time he was on the site per his statement. When he claimed to delete the service when he got back, I personally think he just deleted the app from his phone. Since he was inactive already, perhaps in his mind he thought that meant the account was deleted. I know I have some accounts out there on dating sites that I never deleted. Now I haven't logged on in years so I doubt anyone will see my profile but for all intents and purposes at least as far as I am concerned the account has been deleted.

FWIW I also think that he has cheated in the past. His reaction to Jojo calling him out on Monday's episode was too fishy. I just don't think he is guilty of using Raya since he returned.

Eviebloom wrote:We do not know the nature of Jordan and JoJo's relationship.  *EDIT*  Interesting to let it play out.  They appear to like each other.  I do not like for the sake of the show that JoJo talked to his ex before the show.  That is not Jordan's fault, but certainly the show's.  Something is fixed and the show has done it's best to recruit him and then to betray him all at once.  

Maybe this season is all about being blindsided as JoJo feared...tptb recruited someone who might be likely to act out and they screwed him in the process as well.

Fingersandtoes wrote:I'm just going to say, that whatever we think of RS, he's a big name in all reality shows for spoilers. What I've read, he takes his info and doesn't give credit when someone else has got the info before him, but he's a huge reality show 'name' and not just for bachelor. I believe his site is a full time job, and he gets a lot of $$ too. So IMO it's not unheard of that anyone would contact him with reality spoilers/info or follow him and his spoilers,  because he's the name for them right now. Jmo.

Because of that I'm sure he gets just as much false information as he does truthful ones.  I hope he gets proof that is reliable before he sends it out.  He has the power to destroy people's lives.

I use to love him.  I thought what he said was the gospel and believed it all.  Then the more informed I got I started seeing his vindictive personality.  If he doesn't like someone it's all over for that person.  It's hard to recover from his attacks.

Because I love to read spoilers, I will continue to follow him but I do keep an open mind.  I don't think what he reveals about a person is always lies but not always the whole truth.

^^ What a sad, pathetic little man.

scenedujour wrote:So I can't believe I've decided to jump into the fray as I mostly lurk on this site. I don't know or really care about most of the Jordan stories and I haven't read them in detail (only what's been posted here).

I do tend to believe him on the Raya thing for a few simple reasons:

1) His story is not that polished. Perhaps I'm being naive but if he was really trying to lie wouldn't he make sure that all of the inconsistencies matched up? The February thing vs. March 11th active date for example.

2) The e-mail he shared from Apple seems genuine. I know the "Apple big-wig" claimed the following in her e-mail to RS "Now to the real zinger why he is lying. Apple does not send subscription reminders for products that are not apple created apps. He fabricated a subscription reminder e-mail for an apple created app" Well I just checked my e-mails and I have e-mails from the iTunes Store reminding me about subscription charges for Evernote, Endomondo (Fitness App) and HBO Now (both of these are not Apple products). Granted these are from last year so perhaps this is a new policy but I doubt it.

I'm not going to screen shot it because I don't want to bother taking off my personal info but here's what the e-mail states:

Dear XXX.

Just a reminder that your subscription to Running and Walking with Endomondo will automatically renew on 7/23/15 and you will be charged $25.99 at that time.

You can view the details of your subscription or change your auto-renewal settings at any time from your account settings.

Regards

The iTunes Store Team.


3) I also tend to think the Raya e-mail is genuine although I don't have any proof either way. It seems too brazen to think that he would fake that and not be caught. Also, I can see how it works with the timeline he stated. He agrees to filming and logs on to the site to make it inactive or whatever. That would make it the last time he was on the site per his statement. When he claimed to delete the service when he got back, I personally think he just deleted the app from his phone. Since he was inactive already, perhaps in his mind he thought that meant the account was deleted. I know I have some accounts out there on dating sites that I never deleted. Now I haven't logged on in years so I doubt anyone will see my profile but for all intents and purposes at least as far as I am concerned the account has been deleted.

FWIW I also think that he has cheated in the past. His reaction to Jojo calling him out on Monday's episode was too fishy. I just don't think he is guilty of using Raya since he returned.

But are you saying your email came from I-Tunes? Because that a is not Apple. When I buy apps from I-Tunes I get email from I-Tunes. 
Those I-tune emails are not coming from Apple.   Two different things. 
However, monthly I get a notification from an auto renewal from Apple for something apple related. 

Here is an exact replica of my bill from Apple this month. The photo is the top portion of the email. 


The middle has all my personal info, so I am omitting this.
Here is the lower portion. It shows the lower portion of my receipt email. 

babs wrote:

Fingersandtoes wrote:I'm just going to say, that whatever we think of RS, he's a big name in all reality shows for spoilers. What I've read, he takes his info and doesn't give credit when someone else has got the info before him, but he's a huge reality show 'name' and not just for bachelor. I believe his site is a full time job, and he gets a lot of $$ too. So IMO it's not unheard of that anyone would contact him with reality spoilers/info or follow him and his spoilers,  because he's the name for them right now. Jmo.

Because of that I'm sure he gets just as much false information as he does truthful ones.  I hope he gets proof that is reliable before he sends it out.  He has the power to destroy people's lives.

I use to love him.  I thought what he said was the gospel and believed it all.  Then the more informed I got I started seeing his vindictive personality.  If he doesn't like someone it's all over for that person.  It's hard to recover from his attacks.

Because I love to read spoilers, I will continue to follow him but I do keep an open mind.  I don't think what he reveals about a person is always lies but not always the whole truth.

Oh I completely agree. I absolutely HATED when he thought it appropriate to insert his opinion about Jade when she revealed she had been r*ped. That showed me how low and ignorant person he is.

My point was just, that it's not that difficult to see why someone in a high position would contact RS with info.

Exactly! If you're really on auto-renew, the email will say so and tells you how much you are charged.

The email Jordan posted is a subscription that is not on auto renew so you have to go in there to renew. Given he is subscribed through June, he either went in there back in Jan which ends in June for a 6 mo subscription or he went in there in May for a 1 mo subscription ending in June.

Based on that email photo he posted, he lied about "auto renewal." He lied about deleting his profile as soon as he got back. My guess is he came back around May 12, went into Raya but not to delete his profile but to renew it through 6/13. JMO