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Post by everly Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:53 pm

^ Same. I feel like moments like that would show what his feelings for her are which is what I'm iffy about.

I hope they talk about that moment post show.

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Post by bluwavz Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:57 pm

@SarahD You make a good point. The other women have been shamed but JoJo has been getting sympathy even though she was warned. How is she different from any of these other women if she picked Jordan knowing what he was? Shouldn't she have known better? Especially if her ex did cheat on her? Then again we have as much proof that Chad R cheated on JoJo as we do that Jordan cheated on Brittany. Only one of those guys has been given the benefit of the doubt though.

I like JoJo so I hope this ends well for her but it's hard for me to believe a guy like Jordan miraculously became a changed man and fell madly in love with a woman he barely knows on TV. As nice and beautiful and sexy and great JoJo is, he's probably met a lot of women like her in his real life. The only difference is she's the Bachelorette and comes with other perks.

In the end though I know she will eventually be okay and this Jordan nonsense will become a thing in her past and she'll look back at it wondering what she was thinking. Good luck to her. yes

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Post by SarahD Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:01 pm

sosleepy wrote:I'll say it again. There is a PATTERN for the precious few married club members from this franchise. 5 married couples - 10 individuals. All 10 came into this show at a place in their life where they were READY for marriage. All had a maturity about them - a readiness to put the single life behind them. None of them had crazy rumors with anonymous and not anonymous (Brittany) women, with RS posting left and right about all the intel he's getting about "playa" ways. YES- I know RS says he gets blind items about just about everyone from this franchise, but he said it himself, it's an email or a text here or there, nothing worth running a column over. With Jordan, it was left, right and center, to the point he couldn't ignore it. That doesn't follow the pattern of a person from this show who is ready or able to turn an 8 week showmance into a life long commitment.

By contrast, the last 2 F1's who got this kind of playback were Ed and Jef. I loved both, gave all the same excuses for them that I'm seeing here for Jordan. I'm just not falling for that again. Is Jordan the worse thing ever? Nope. He's a 20-something year old pseudo celebrity, playing the field. Not a huge deal to me, but in no way do I think this will end in a forever thing for JoJo. I just find it really hard to see Jordan bucking these patterns.

It's okay. Apparently Jojo, and people who like her are not looking for forever. Tabloid fodder is okay, however short it is, for the latest D-lister from the franchise.

This season is all sorts of cray cray anyway that it's difficult to see and believe there could be a genuine relationship and love story to come from this season. Let's go through the circus and see who comes on next season. I am so over Jojo's season that I just want to see if it's Chase rather than boring Luke.


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Post by Seabear Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:09 pm

bluwavz wrote:@SarahD You make a good point. The other women have been shamed but JoJo has been getting sympathy even though she was warned. How is she different from any of these other women if she picked Jordan knowing what he was? Shouldn't she have known better? Especially if her ex did cheat on her? Then again we have as much proof that Chad R cheated on JoJo as we do that Jordan cheated on Brittany. Only one of those guys has been given the benefit of the doubt though.

I like JoJo so I hope this ends well for her but it's hard for me to believe a guy like Jordan miraculously became a changed man and fell madly in love with a woman he barely knows on TV. As nice and beautiful and sexy and great JoJo is, he's probably met a lot of women like her in his real life. The only difference is she's the Bachelorette and comes with other perks.

In the end though I know she will eventually be okay and this Jordan nonsense will become a thing in her past and she'll look back at it wondering what she was thinking. Good luck to her.  yes

All JMO.

Good Post  I agree  word  score  mademyday  THAT.  Wonderful post......IMO Spot On.
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Post by SarahD Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:13 pm

Thanks @bluwavz. If Jordan is indeed a cheater, Jojo has no one to blame but herself. She had plenty of warning and she had such a bad experience in her ex relationship that she should have known better.  If we're to believe what she said in the next episode, she met an ex (whether it's Birttany we don't know) of Jordan who told her of trust issues and on/off relationship with him.  Jojo essentially validated what Brittany's single post yet most people here crucify her and all the other anonymous women.

For me, there's already too much noise about Jordan that it would take me a lot to believe otherwise.  But here, I think most people say, until they see Jordan's Raya profile, not enough evidence he's a cheater.

And I sooo agree with what you pointed out, we believe Ex BF Chad cheated on Jojo becUse she said so. Same thing that Brittany said about Jordan. But we believe Jojo because we think we know her from being on the show vs Brittany who we know nothing about. See...double standards.
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Post by sosleepy Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:22 pm

I don't necessarily blame JoJo. She wasn't feeling it with the other dudes, and Jordan is textbook her type. Whatcha gonna do? I kneeeew on Ben's season he soooooo wasn't her type. She would have been bored about 5 minutes after cameras stopped rolling. She wants to be safe, knows what she needs... But she's 25! She's young. I never for one second believed JoJo was a place in her life looking to seriously settle down either. She'd just be wasting Ben/Chase/Luke's time. She'll have fun with Jordan until he burns her too (just like Ed burned Jill; Jef burned Em, etc, etc...) She'll get her media exposure, career launching pad... Then in a few years when she's older and wiser, she herself will probs actually be ready for marriage, and she'll find someone who actually makes her safe. All's well that ends well.
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Post by Kashathediva Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:31 pm

I am always amazed to find people who have been cheated on seeking out those who are cheaters. The two parties attract like magnets.
It's almost as if both behaviors are equally hard to change and both almost need the other to cope. 
There are better choices always for each yet they keep going back to the unhealthy.



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Post by Alanna Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:38 pm

Guys, what can "we" women do about this situation with the wicked wicked BBJ??? laugh out loud I don't see how anyone is giving him a pass and really who cares what we think? Jo was the rose distributor and she made her feelings loud and clear.


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Post by sosleepy Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:42 pm

Alanna wrote:Guys, what can "we" women do about this situation with the wicked wicked BBJ??? laugh out loud I don't see how anyone is giving him a pass and really who cares what we think? Jo was the rose distributor and she made her feelings loud and clear.

Right. Totally. Her rodeo. Her heart. Her business.

But I think it's fair that we, as viewers, could be disappointed in this beautiful, vivacious woman falling back into her same ole, same ole date a bozo trap. It's just kinda sad that she's been spouting off about needing to feel safe and protected  for how long now? Since like January on our screens... And Jordan is her end game.


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Post by Kashathediva Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:44 pm

We could kidnap him on his way to his next safe house visit, make him dress like a sissy french maid and serve us frozen umbrella drinks, feed us shrimp cocktails and massage our aching, tired little piggies. Wash, rinse, repeat.



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Post by BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:46 pm

SarahD wrote:.....snipped....
Again, I'm floored by the double standards applied to women by women.  If the guy is a cheater, it must be the women's fault because they're cheap.  Jojo is on a pedestal but other women who shared Jordan's bed are all cheap and dogs and it's their fault. ...snipped...

Interesting, I don't see posts calling the women cheap? But I agree that many times there is a double standard (very obvious during Kaitlyns season) and in the real world for sure. Just as I don't think women should be sl*t shamed for non-exclusive dating, I don't think guys should be labelled as cheaters for non-exclusive dating either. I just wish people could be more honest about it. That said, I agree the Brittany cheating 2 years ago looks pretty cut/dried cheating and IMO probably is what it is, it's in the past and JoJo will need to decide for herself if it's something he's learned from.

To be fair to the women involved- they have a right to their view of Jordan, their anonymity and to be fair to Jordan, he has a right not to be condemned as a cheater for life and a right not to be seen as unworthy of a relationship with JoJo.... at least not without all the facts IMO.




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Post by Lennoxcolinrolland Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:52 pm

sosleepy wrote:
Alanna wrote:Guys, what can "we" women do about this situation with the wicked wicked BBJ??? laugh out loud I don't see how anyone is giving him a pass and really who cares what we think? Jo was the rose distributor and she made her feelings loud and clear.

Right. Totally. Her rodeo. Her heart. Her business.

But I think it's fair that we, as viewers, could be disappointed in this beautiful, vivacious woman falling back into her same ole, same ole date a bozo trap. It's just kinda sad that she's been spouting off about needing to feel safe and protected  for how long now? Since like January on our screens... And Jordan is her end game.
Yup. I know.. sad But it'll either work or not. Just like every other realtionship. And at some point, she'll get tired of being hurt and go with the wise choice...even if it's not the choice she wants. IMO.

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