Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #4

HEA wrote:I think this resume pretty much the relationship they have... even if this was meant playful. IMO




my scap from recorded TV

It looks like he is pulling away and she is trying to grab him to draw him in lolol

Di_ATL wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:There are no private conversations before the FS. So it would take a huge thing for him to have told her opps, I did cheat on Brittany I just didn't want to tell you on camera. I care less about the cheating and more about continuing to lie about it. Making mistakes is part of life and we can grow and learn. Lying tends to be a conscious decision and an indicator of bad character. If you lie about this what else will you lie about? Not easy to build trust when you start with a lie.

IA.... there is no private conversation however, if he did admit to the cheating in that dinner conversation, which could have happened, it would take away from the character they are portraying Jordan as. Therefore, it is on the cutting room floor, just as the bidet convo, as well as his more detailed scene of them dancing, laughing and having fun in the streets, and of him comforting Jojo in the hall. :Nod:

And in her blog she mentions, his admitting to being "immature" and accepting the blame versus blaming others and CH mentions his OPEN and HONEST conversation.

I just feel there was so much more to that conversation for her to end it with, I feel like your mad at me, or  please don't be mad at me.      

Alrighty, back on topic, back to Jordan. Occam's Razer tells me this is a far stretch. I think what you see is what you get. The man bald faced lied. Maybe he did it cause he was on camera and caught off guard, maybe he did it cause that's his default and he can. But bottom line, I think we genuinely saw him straight up lie to JoJo.

I can deal with cheating if it's in the past. People make mistakes. But own it.

^^ she says:

HER don't be mad at me.
HIM I'm not
HER don't be mad

question: how long are we talking when we say past?

one week, one month, one year, 2 years?

Dessler wrote:

Pattycake92 wrote:Has anyone figured out if Jordan really is back on the dating app "Raya" as RS claims?

I don't think he is stupid enough to go back on "Raya" if he is really engaged to Jojo, knowing that you are being watched by 7 million people...C'mon, that is the only part of RS emails that i don't believe

IDK, I believe it. A lot of people don't even know what Raya is. I had never heard of it before or knew anyone on it. And the point of it is supposed to be secretive, no screen shots. It's not that easy to even get on it and be a member. And it's supposed to protect the privacy of say celebs that are on it. So yes, I think he thought he could get away with it. Unfortunately for him, the app is getting more attention, and people are leaking that celebs are on it.

Jojo is coming off pathetic and dumb when it comes to Jordan. He's got her roped around his dirty finger!

That kiss against the wall, he thinks he's so cool and all that when he does not come close to what Arie did to Emily.  Anyway, he only did that because he saw Robby kiss Jojo next to the fountain.  He's all about winning against the other guys because he's got a huge inferiority complex against his brother against whom he can never ever win.

That conversation with Jordan was just sad. she's trying to appear to be this confident woman trying to confront a guy when she told urn mush based on some lame response from him. Can't believe she bought that when his body language and his eyes say he's lying. Whe he said I have not cheated or something like that, he looked down and his mouth twitched.

Jojo just looked pathetic reaching for him as he's pulling away as if saying "please kiss me and tell me you love me and don't be mad I confronted you. The producers just wanted me to say that."

That crying of Jojo about the magazine is so childish. This cry of tears seem much more genuine though than the crying acting she did during Ben's HTD where she received flowers. That one was such terrible acting.

At this point, people have seemingly made up their mind about this guy, good or bad. Maybe it's because I don't find myself emotionally invested in this season, but I haven't. I haven't seen anything in the present to sway me one way or another and I'm not one to judge people on their behaviour from before I'm introduced to them, because I don't think people are their past. I've just decided to wait and see how it plays out on ATFR and beyond before I make any judgements about any of this

i think he's F1 but TPTB wants us to think Jojo chooses nobody. All her SM activity and likes in goodquote seem to indicate she's with someone in a you-and-me-against-the-world kind of thing. Also seems SHV activity seem to indicate Jordan.

Would like to see her try and defend Jordan in the ATFR and she will probably come off defensive and pathetic. I would like to see her freak out like she did when she saw the magazine.

I think if Jordan had been on the show when he was the same age as Jesse Palmer (25), we would be seeing a different Jordan and one that fits like a lock and key to the descriptions of his former gfs. He's a handsome, charming guy and I can see why JoJo is GaGa over him. I do hope he has learned and matured. If they are together post-show, they have lots of hurdles to overcome, rumors being one of them. If he had a stable job, I think it would bode well for a future but I see a guy still trying to figure things out.

I give Jordan credit for one truth... He is a Professional Player...just not in football but in playing woman.  He is so smoothly able to assess his mark and play on their weakness.  No problem turning defense into offense.
Hopefully JoJo wakes up and spends some time alone not chasing a relationship and focuses on valuing herself.

JMO

I have no opinion good or bad about Jordan Rodgers , Its his life . Past present and future , not mine .
Even though he was from Chico .
I really Liked Shantell Newton . bachelorette from Brad's season .
And also the fact she's was from Chico made me a little prejudiced .

SarahD wrote:Jojo is coming off pathetic and dumb when it comes to Jordan. He's got her roped around his dirty finger!

That kiss against the wall, he thinks he's so cool and all that when he does not come close to what Arie did to Emily.  Anyway, he only did that because he saw Robby kiss Jojo next to the fountain.  He's all about winning against the other guys because he's got a huge inferiority complex against his brother against whom he can never ever win.

That conversation with Jordan was just sad. she's trying to appear to be this confident woman trying to confront a guy when she told urn mush based on some lame response from him. Can't believe she bought that when his body language and his eyes say he's lying. Whe he said I have not cheated or something like that, he looked down and his mouth twitched.

Jojo just looked pathetic reaching for him as he's pulling away as if saying "please kiss me and tell me you love me and don't be mad I confronted you. The producers just wanted me to say that."

That crying of Jojo about the magazine is so childish. This cry of tears seem much more genuine though than the crying acting she did during Ben's HTD where she received flowers. That one was such terrible acting.

do not forget the dead silence when he received the single date card. Did you hear anything? It was SOOO uncomfortable. IMO
if you check the 'I care about you so much' scene... to whom she constantly look at? which direction? Her body language on the sofa? half turned to jordan's direction. IMO

The guys at this point know that:

1. he is the frontrunner  - IMO
2. he came here 'for fame and fortune' (Robby, James, Luke, maybe Alex voice over not sure) - IMO

So it is not one guy who is mentioning fame here but several. 20 seasons after, how many guys who point their fingers at were true about the guy they mentioned to be there for fame? Pretty much all the villains and bad boys. So why Jordan would be the exception and the victim from guys he spend now almost 3 weeks 24/7? Because they know... IMO

And still IMO, they are sick to see a nice girl falling for his shenanigans smooth operator chick tricks... still IMO

I noticed that the seals part was constantly interrupted by the guys. Generally it is one time, here it took more than half of the time which was supposed to be romantic and lovey-lovey. Everything was about the guys. I saw champagne pop, a seals sea jump... and bam direct to cheating diner table with tons of guys segments.... IMO

versus robby. Robby did not get that much guys interruption at all. it WAS all lovey-lovey... IMO

so again, the script is to make sure to show jordan under such a bad light that at the end, at the finale, it is SO justified that she ends alone or reject him. She saw the light and understood that he was not her life partner unicorn. ... IMO

JOjo said on 2 interviews (KELLY and GMA) that she would not use the ILY lightly.... yet we hear her that she just let go someone she loved and she is truly devastated. IMO

It does not make sense IMO, that she recover and say THE SAME THING THAT BEN DID to another guy right after... IMO
ETA: she did not say (as far as we can hear) ILY to the guy standing, she said ILY after she rejected him, alone in the garden.

This goodbye is definitely middle PM. Shadows, sky and NO fishboats on the horizon. Lets not forget the sunset segment of jojo, with a serious face, no shoes (like right after the rejection), chin up, and walking ALONE... If she says ILY to a guy after that, truly?? It does not make sense at all... IMO

SarahD wrote:i think he's F1 but TPTB wants us to think Jojo chooses nobody. All her SM activity and likes in goodquote seem to indicate she's with someone in a you-and-me-against-the-world kind of thing. Also seems SHV activity seem to indicate Jordan.

Would like to see her try and defend Jordan in the ATFR and she will probably come off defensive and pathetic.  I would like to see her freak out like she did when she saw the magazine.

she is a person of faith and prayers. She was upset and share this tweet about the The Voice singer who was murdered. Then the following day, we had Orlando. Then, she also said that she just wanted to be friend with her ex because he was hurting. Were the quotes love men/woman related or more general about love in the world kinda?... IMO

I would not be surprised that she just support this massive anti-jordan but nothing more. After all, there is no denying that she acted like a puppet with him so she maybe think that he does not deserve this cyber bullying? ... IMO

now... we could have a NOONE situation and AFTER show a foiler with the one she rejected (robby maybe?)