The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #3

traveler90 wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:Oh, Jordan!  These two are going to be hilarious with the crazy filters!  She is toast and he is a creepy doll.  

You're forgetting this one: https://www.instagram.com/p/BHGzDu6A2-2/?taken-by=jojofletchersnaps  

We'll just call her the dragon lady!

Yes I follow her on snap and have seen that one. Thanks guys!! 

Hahaha Becca just snapped JoJo getting brows done for photo shoot and she said to the makeup artists, "are you cutting her unibrow?" JoJo just turned around to Becca with her mouth open.  I like how they easily tease each other.

Mommyof1 wrote:Now I have the image of Jordan eating appetizers under the buffet table!  

Maybe he got a gig tending bar! 

SLA44 wrote:So far nobody has seen a picture from the SHV showing a person involved - just a fire pit and a swimming pool.  I remember very clearly the picture of Chris at the swimming pool at the SHV and also of JeF 1F grilling.  To me that is proof not just a picture of a fire pit with no one sitting around it or an empty swimming pool.  It could still be any of the final 4 because you have not seen a picture of the guy yet.  So until that happens it is still not a done deal in my mind.  JMO

:con1: :yougogirl:

Ladybug82 wrote: snipped

Yes, true... But all the other 3 guys in the F4 were accounted for and seen on SM or out and about in public.  The only one not spotted anywhere was Jordan.  And it's not the first time those two have disappeared (both from SM and being seen anywhere in public) at the same time, while the others where still active on SM and spotted somewhere.  IMO, that has to be given some weight and consideration.  Not necessarily a done deal or writing on the wall, but it all continues to add up in 1 guys column...and that's Jo's BBJ.  JMO.

Nice recap @Ladybug82.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Ladybug82 wrote: snipped

Yes, true... But all the other 3 guys in the F4 were accounted for and seen on SM or out and about in public.  The only one not spotted anywhere was Jordan.  And it's not the first time those two have disappeared (both from SM and being seen anywhere in public) at the same time, while the others where still active on SM and spotted somewhere.  IMO, that has to be given some weight and consideration.  Not necessarily a done deal or writing on the wall, but it all continues to add up in 1 guys column...and that's Jo's BBJ.  JMO.

Nice recap @Ladybug82.

Yep.....no doubt imo that Jordan was with Jo.

Once upon a time I took the editing of this show VERY seriously.

Then I got burnt a few times because of seasons involving a default/temporary F1 and the producers purposely making the show a mess on screen.

These days I am cautious but still keep track of all of the "signs". For example, how many times a Bachelorette uses the H-word with certain contestants and how each contestant's storyline develops (i.e. either they are on a "journey" and learning to "open up" or they are here for a future with the lead).

These last few seasons, so many here take the Social Media even more seriously than I ever took the editing of this silly show.

... and there is nothing wrong with this. It is all fun and entertaining. You will see "signs" pointing in Jordan's direction in Social Media and sometimes "signs" in other contestants' direction. After we know the ending, we can all look back at what "signs" were relevant. Not that the same "signs" will be relevant in the next season with all of the tomfoolery going on.

However... and this is just jaded lil' me, so you folks can just ignore me if you wish... Social Media is ALWAYS a mess. Just the sheer volume of material people look at is HUGE. You never know for sure if the lead has a great relationship with her/his F2 and F3, making you THINK they are F1. (One season that was not the case was Ashley H. and Ben F. since neither followed the other and they were very cool and hostile with each other on ATFR with Mister Harrison. Yet, at that time, some thought the lead had to ignore her/his chosen on Social Media and that suggested Ben was F1.) It is also possible one contestant is already in the running for the next lead and he/she is over any "heartbreak" and happy to promote the show. (Farmer Soules gave us quite a work out on Andi's season.)

I mean... I don't want to pooh-pooh all of the Social Media analysis, but... well... SOMETIMES... pooh pooh.

JBF the editing has changed n the last 5or 6 seasons where the f1 is not hidden. They are front and centre. If the f1 is runaway they put an alternate option with the help of VOs and editing tricks to fool the audience. They also put out everything, including the dirt to murky the waters and get folks to think that will not be the leads choice.

The only edit they try leave somewhat clean is the next lead options. Having said that they will go with what is ultimately available to them If their first choice(s) are not available.

All this imo and from seeing what they out out each  season, even minus the social media. I was un spoiled for the first few epis and knew who the f1 was just by the edit itself. No SM hints at all. Same with JUanPs season. I lasted non spoiled there for a long time and knew Nikki had it by ep 2or3. Meanwhile there was a group convinced that it was Clare right till almost the end.


SM helps support the editing clues yes. But the edit does tell the story. Sometimes more clear than others.

*chuckle chuckle* I remember how you stuck with Nikki that season. I, of course, found Couples Therapy more entertaining than The Bachelor that year.

I don't think anyone is saying to give up sleuthing and following the edit.  But over the years as SM has continued to grow and invade daily life, so much that some are permanently joined with their phones, SM cannot simply be ignored, IMO.

Time and time again, it proves to be correct when sleuthed and all the puzzles pieces are put together and looked at.  It's given us hints when all is not well in paradise, when things are going on between past cast, it's allows us to see what the lead is thinking and feeling based on likes, posts, comments and it flat out helps us keep track of them all.  Case in point being this past weekend being a known SHV weekend.  When only 1 of the F4 is not seen or accounted for for 4-5 days and the lead goes missing as well, well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that signs point to them being together.  

Yes, sometimes we get overly eager F2s, such as Becca or Robby, who like to overshare and try to make things a little more interesting by posting misleading things, but more times than not, IMO, SM ends up making the ending clear by reinforcing what the edit and SC sleuthing has already shown us.  

So pooh pooh it away or choose to use it as an added sleuthing tool, it's your choice, but I for one am not going to overlook what ends up being a useful tool in sleuthing. JMOAA

I only pooh pooh SOMETIMES. Not all the time.

Another cray-cray theory that just pop my mind... after all this season IS cray-cray in my eyes

what if she reject jordan and robby... noone
then back to california she tries to date jordan
jordan wants nothing of it, he got a job/swag going on
jojo is desperate to be alone with her unicorn cup
so she explore all possibilities and decide that luke or chase could do the job because she REALLLLLY want to be proposed and REALLLLLY want it to work

what you say?

(just teasing, there is nothing that lead to this theory)

@JBF