The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #3

HEA wrote:
my scap from recorded TV - ep 1

All JMO

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I've noticed this pic too HEA in the preview.  Already sunset, Jojo walking alone on the beach.  Interesting, and your catch of what she said on Kelly def has my interest peaked on your theory.  Could explain some things for sure.

I think whatever happens when she's in the blue V-neck dress and gets really upset might be something really big that has an impact on the ending.  I expect there will be a lot from Thailand hinted at in the second long preview for the rest of the season that we should get soon.  Like there were peeks of the Des Brooks epic breakup and then it was thrown out there front and centre in the mid season preview that something big would be coming.  I'm excited for that in the next couple weeks.

This is a good theory that she walked away alone.
Were there any other interviews where she hinted at this ? iirc in one she was asked what her intentions were after the show and she said hang out with family friends and be happy. Need to go look for that one.

With the press about Jordan and Robby seeming (just to me) like a guy who just threw himself into the silliness of the show and is having a blast with it but not necessarily genuine in his feelings, if they are the last 2 and Jojo decides to pull a Brad I'll be  cheering and bowing down to Jojo as the ultimate. Normally, a no pick would seem like a waste of a season, but somehow this time it would feel great in a way given the spoilers.

A no pick never seems like a waste of a season for me. 
If it's not there, it's not there. I always say better to be alone and happy than with someone and miserable. 
Besides that, I hate the fake "they gotta pick someone because it's the show" syndrome. To me that's boring and a joke.

relaxing wrote:

Snipped this post for just the pic ....

I've noticed this pic too HEA in the preview.  Already sunset, Jojo walking alone on the beach.  Interesting, and your catch of what she said on Kelly def has my interest peaked on your theory.  Could explain some things for sure.

I think whatever happens when she's in the blue V-neck dress and gets really upset might be something really big that has an impact on the ending.  I expect there will be a lot from Thailand hinted at in the second long preview for the rest of the season that we should get soon.  Like there were peeks of the Des Brooks epic breakup and then it was thrown out there front and centre in the mid season preview that something big would be coming.  I'm excited for that in the next couple weeks.

Thank you @relaxing  

now that the chad drama is almost over. They have to keep us on our toes and play on the motto of this season: will she be blindsided another time or not?

This season reminds me so much of Des who was crazy about Brooks... and Ahsley with Bentley. It is a mix of both season x10. A gold mine for the producers who lets remember are the one who cast each guy and ask them 15 pages and more questions, have professional to evaluate them PRIOR the show. So totally aware of who is who.

I totally see a big drama teary earlier departure at F3 with jordan. Then she moves on and decide that she is not ready to be engaged. The last pic and the voice over totally contradict each other. That is typical edits: want us to believe one thing when it is another.

This blue glitter dress is definitely huge for her. She does not fake that. We see the camera crewmen, we see her asking her handler to join her. She is devastated. When she says that scares her and we see the bloody white shirt. Maybe an accident happened? But she is in a cocktail dress so it is not some random stranger IMO


my scap from recorded TV - ep 1

Same thing with her white dress she is wearing with jordan (cheating vid) and the devastating crying when she says she only wants to be find somebody who loves her and be happy with... this is maybe right after the diner with jordan that turned short???


my scap from recorded TV - ep 1

Then lets say the following day, in her long grey cardigan, the prods show her the tabloid mag? Then we have this in 3 steps:

- walking the corridor with the mag in hand
- alex knocking a door shirtless with 2 strangers (?)
- crying (not desperate tears, faking tears as far I can see IMO) in front of the guys while all the guys are looking at each other with a WTH in their eyes

what intrigues me is why alex is bumping the door like that and who are those guys? And why does she ends up in jordan's arms crying? Although I have an idea that she felt guilty about the mag and came to him to apologize her doubting him (what a miracle moment for him IMO)

is it possible that Jordan played the card of 'I better leave' (backsack in corridor) so she run after him to stay. Very very old trick...

For me there is 2 dramas:

- jordan that does not look like her dream guy, that does not court her the way she wants and this is devastating because she is already in love (although the 'why does he do that to me' looks very much her ex)

- grey cardigan, she is over her ex. so she is not as emotional. She is just upset not devastated.

With all the dram this season, I can almost smell this apotheosis endind: jojo picks noone



my scap from recorded TV - ep 1


All JMO

Great caps HEA.

That's a gorgeous dress on Jojo & she is totally rocking it.

Until I saw the close up of the dress via the screen cap, I actually didn't think it was the FRC dress. That shot of her walking alone plus the Live with Kelly interview should be considered a major clue to the possibility of Jojo not being engaged at FRC. And I am totally down with this, even if it means she is dating Jordan post show...that's a smart decision on her part with the lack of trust she brought up.

On another note, Blu posted the US Weekly mag in the SM thread. In the history of this show, has there been a spolied F1 that had disparaging details published like Jordan in a mag that's being fed information by the producers? I personally don't recall this. CH was not kind to Brooks if I recollect in some media interviews & blogs he did & that's about all I remember.

Anyways great sleuthing to HEA & others who came up with the possibility of her picking no one at FRC, should be interesting if it shakes out that way....all jmo

mercieme wrote:Great caps HEA.

That's a gorgeous dress on Jojo & she is totally rocking it.

Until I saw the close up of the dress via the screen cap, I actually didn't think it was the FRC dress. That shot of her walking alone plus the Live with Kelly interview should be considered a major clue to the possibility of Jojo not being engaged at FRC. And I am totally down with this, even if it means she is dating Jordan post show...that's a smart decision on her part with the lack of trust she brought up.

On another note, Blu posted the US Weekly mag in the SM thread. In the history of this show, has there been a spolied F1 that had disparaging details published like Jordan in a mag that's being fed information by the producers? I personally don't recall this. CH was not kind to Brooks if I recollect in some media interviews & blogs he did & that's about all I remember.

Anyways great sleuthing to HEA & others who came up with the possibility of her picking no one at FRC, should be interesting if it shakes out that way....all jmo

I agree.  I'm totally on board with this theory.  It makes sense with how they guys are post show, how it feels like we're being set up with a foiler with all the obvious Jordan screen time IMO, no definite post show clues of an F1, Jojo seeming cool as a cumcumber despite her spoiled F1 getting trashed in the tabs, etc.

I would add to the second bolded, both the spoiled F1 and F2 are talked about as bad boys from production insiders in the US article.  Its a perfect set up for a no pick if the show is going to show both the last 2 make her wary and nervous about their trustworthiness and sincerity. And I thought the same, have we seen that before?  It feels like part of the extended media storyline to support what's going to happen ie if Jojo picks no one.

Imagine if that cap of her walking on the beach alone at sunset is the actual last shot of the season and was right there in the season preview.  If so major props to HEA for picking that out.

Some how that picture may not be from FRC. Maybe 3 -2. Her hair is not glam and that dress just seem a step above every day for Cary.

I tend to think that is not an FRC photo, but one that will lead us to think that way because of the sunset. 
Her hair does not appear to be done, there appears to be a lack of noticeable jewelry.  It's difficult to see if the gown is more adorned other than that bejeweled belt. JoJo has never been a less is more girl. The dress is a hard call. It seems simpler than her usual over the top glitz. 
But what's throwing me is the lack of jewelry accessories and her hair.

Maybe there was no FRC & she walked into the sunset as "the boss lady"

By the way, anyone recollect the words & song they used for her season promo? I remember them saying she was confident & in charge. If that's the case how the world would they sell her picking someone she had trust issues with?

Either the spolied F1 is shown moving heaven & earth to convince her but right now she is the one chasing the spoiled F1 from the episodes we have seen so far....all jmo.

Kashathediva wrote:I tend to think that is not an FRC photo, but one that will lead us to think that way because of the sunset. 
Her hair does not appear to be done, there appears to be a lack of noticeable jewelry.  It's difficult to see if the gown is more adorned other than that bejeweled belt. JoJo has never been a less is more girl. The dress is a hard call. It seems simpler than her usual over the top glitz. 
But what's throwing me is the lack of jewelry accessories and her hair.

I agree.

Though perhaps since she was not going to pick anyone she did not get all dolled up.



ETA : When Brad chose no one, he did not do media rounds. He did radio interviews but nothing face to face.
He retreated home and we barely saw him.

Jojo on the other hand has been seen with Fans, in CA, travelling etc. quite the opposite of Brad 1.0. Just throwing it out there.

That could be. 
I keep seeing her look good post show and TPTB did use the confident woman theme for her, so it jives that she could have picked no one. That also goes with the fact she is only 25. It leaves her with a clean post image. IMO
I have no issues with that. 
TPTB can make the men look as crazy as they choose and it only makes JoJo look better.