The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Epi 3-4 - June 6-7th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

ForeverLove wrote:

Seabear wrote:This Episode Was So Boring and Dragged On and On and On......    

Sadly I think tomorrow night will be more of the same......

The one thing I learned while flipping though channels is to Jojo, sex is very important in her relationships . That should bode well for Jordan. Yet ChadR still found a way to cheat on her. Is it her choice of guys or do they tire of her?

Yes, she does rather harp on the physical aspects of the relationship, but perhaps a little more thought about the character of the person she was interested in might be in order. It may be that I sense that she is playing with them and just going through the motions for the sake of the show. I know that every lead has to do that, it's just that she really seems to know how to use sex to keep the guys invested and I just don't think she cares what they are like. Personally, I am finding her to be very manipulative in that regard.

Sprite wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

Seabear wrote:This Episode Was So Boring and Dragged On and On and On......    

Sadly I think tomorrow night will be more of the same......

The one thing I learned while flipping though channels is to Jojo, sex is very important in her relationships . That should bode well for Jordan. Yet ChadR still found a way to cheat on her. Is it her choice of guys or do they tire of her?

Yes, she does rather harp on the physical aspects of the relationship, but perhaps a little more thought about the character of the person she was interested in might be in order. It may be that I sense that she is playing with them and just going through the motions for the sake of the show. I know that every lead has to do that, it's just that she really seems to know how to use sex to keep the guys invested and I just don't think she cares what they are like. Personally, I am finding her to be very manipulative in that regard.

I did not get that she is manipulative in that regard , they were in sex talk group date and she said was it is important for people in a relationship to be able to communicate about sex, which absolutely true IMO

moved

Is it just me, or is JoJo acting incredibly bored, phoning it in hardcore. I mean, I know all leads phone it in to some degree... But she's phoning it in next level, especially considering she's only at episode 3! I don't believe she'd give any of these guys 5 minutes of her time if she was IRL and not contractually obligated. Exception: Jordan Rodgers. With him, she seems about 95% animated.

Even though we didn't see much of him last night with her, I think she's plenty into Luke, at least physically and I think that will be obvious tonight. I think he's a bit intense and brooding for her and that could have been the reason why he was sent home after hometowns. I think she likes Chase and feels safe with him, but he doesn't excite her. The season previews have really showed her into Robby, so I'm looking forward to seeing that. Plus, much like it was the Olivia show for the first few episodes, it's been the Chad show. Most of the 1-on-1 dates have been cut in time length given the Chad drama. Starting with episode 5 I'm guessing it will more so focus on the guys with JoJo.

She's really no different than any other lead. I thought it was so obvious by week two that it was all about Lauren and then JoJo for Ben. I didn't see him connect with anyone else. Lauren Himle from Ben's season said in one of the podcasts she did that on the group dates Ben only legitimately made an effort to talk to Lauren and JoJo and that's how she knew by week 4 it was probably going to be Lauren in the end followed by JoJo. IMO.

^Did you catch Luke say he was going to go cry in a corner.

grace8136 wrote:^Did you catch Luke say he was going to go cry in a corner.

Yes, he has already been trapped in the bubble and shattered my original image of him.

MiniDiva wrote:

grace8136 wrote:^Did you catch Luke say he was going to go cry in a corner.

Yes, he has already been trapped in the bubble and shattered my original image of him.  

I know, but then I decided being his shoulder to cry on could be okay. This episode was so boring, even though Chase had a 1:1 date, I felt like the top 4 didn't exist last night.

And yes JoJo looked bored. If I was forced to deal with all that crap, I would be bored too. I feel like her GDRs have been given to avoid who she really likes, not highlight it. It is not an easy edit to pull off. By pushing the wait to know the ones you want and emphasizing the Chad vs. Evan and Alex show they have made it difficult to find the fun. It is Bentley all over again. Hopefully after this week we get a more engaged JoJo once the house drama is gone. I can't blame her, this is MF's desire to focus on the conflict and not her love story. I also don't like James T and his sob story and guitar, I just don't buy that he is anymore into JoJo than she is to him. JMO.

Ash2214 wrote:Even though we didn't see much of him last night with her, I think she's plenty into Luke, at least physically and I think that will be obvious tonight. I think he's a bit intense and brooding for her and that could have been the reason why he was sent home after hometowns. I think she likes Chase and feels safe with him, but he doesn't excite her. The season previews have really showed her into Robby, so I'm looking forward to seeing that. Plus, much like it was the Olivia show for the first few episodes, it's been the Chad show. Most of the 1-on-1 dates have been cut in time length given the Chad drama. Starting with episode 5 I'm guessing it will more so focus on the guys with JoJo.

She's really no different than any other lead. I thought it was so obvious by week two that it was all about Lauren and then JoJo for Ben. I didn't see him connect with anyone else. Lauren Himle from Ben's season said in one of the podcasts she did that on the group dates Ben only legitimately made an effort to talk to Lauren and JoJo and that's how she knew by week 4 it was probably going to be Lauren in the end followed by JoJo. IMO.

I completely agree with all of this. A lot of cases in the past, the contestants that weren't getting an actual romantic vibe on the leads end have basically said that they knew it was over for them and to just enjoy being there while they still could. This happens every season. The lead only likes 2-4 people and everyone else has to be there because it's a show at the end of the day. The leads are made to phone it in with people they know have no shot whatsoever. It's literally like living Deja vu. Different season, same sh*t. I think JoJo only has THAT feeling with Jordan, Luke, and to a smaller extent Chase. Which is no different then what contestants in the past have said: the lead only genuinely has an interest in 2-4 people...starting night 1.

IMO.

Still loving JoJo and Chase of course! The kissing in the yoga studio was HOT. If I didn't know better I'd think that was a F1 moment. Chase may be low-key, but he said many things last night I found funny. I'm all for him becoming the next Bachelor. He needs to get some better clothes though. There's skinny jeans and then there's whatever he was wearing.

Chad's still a miserable bastard, just a violent one now. I have no desire to defend him in any way. He basically admitted he uses steroids when he told CH that he couldn't bring them with him anyway. Yea, we can tell you were forced off them, Chad.

That said, Evan is an annoying whining little creeper and I'm bummed he got the rose. It was almost worth it just to see Chad's face though, it was hilarious. But who the hell does he think he is presenting JoJo with an ultimatum? That's not being strong, that's being a coward. Handle your own business yourself, don't make the girl you're trying to impress do it for you. Ugh.

Jordan turned me off even more with his overuse of "like". Meh.

I used to think James was cute but he's annoying me with all the singing. He's so obviously there to self-promote. What he said about his insecurities just makes me believe even less that he's there for love. He knows, or at least thinks, he has no chance with someone like JoJo, so what's the point? Oh yea, singing on TV every chance you get. Jealous of that date though, it seemed really fun.

I'm just not really feeling either Luke or Chase as the next lead yet. Given the choice between the two I'd still go with Luke just because he's older but both guys are putting me to sleep so far. I wish this was a better group of guys.

All JMO.

If Jordan doesn't win and the spoiler turns out to be fake he will 100% be the next lead in my opinion, and I can't see his season being a boring one