THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

I believe Jordan is on the soccer GD in the next episode and then a second 1:1 in episode 7 (the "I'm in love with you" conversation at dinner then another make out session against the wall SCs)

I will have to look at SC from the soccer date . . . ok, edited my post; 5 on GD, Well 1on1, Chase/Derek 2on1.

For whatever reason Chase was put on the 2-1, I can see how this could be to his benefit in more than just time. JoJo expresses to Chase that she didn't feel he was giving much back to her. He looked genuinely surprised to hear this. Maybe this is the fire he needs to begin pursuing her in a way that JoJo can "feel."

I am not an expert at knowing JoJo or Chase, but I'm sensing different love languages. Chase seems like a doer (make it snow, create a fun memory with those balls, dip her at the RC, be the first to greet her). He seems to like to show his love...which is why he is surprised that JoJo can't see it, imo. JoJo, OTOH, seems to like expressions of love and touch. It will be interesting to see if they can get on the same page this coming week. If not, I think Chase is toast...but at least he gets a trip to Thailand.

On a separate note, I'm intrigued by JoJo's statement at the FRC along the lines of, "What you did to me wasn't right." What does that mean? Did she catch a guy in a lie? Did someone (Jordan???) bail on her and then decide to come back (ala Ed...credit goes to veg_out for giving me this idea). I'm dying to know what that crying scene in the airport hanger is all about. Her comment of "that scares me" is about what? Seeing a guy she's falling for pull away?

Let's suppose Jordan leaves (btw, the preview hints at someone walking away). What if he writes her a letter before the FRC? Hence, the note in her hand during the ITM. What if he asks to come back and that he's ready to propose? She knows she fell in love with him (Jordan)...and it's feels a lot like her RL Chad who kept pulling on her like a yoyo. This would explain some of the depth of the emotional pain. It's not just about walking away from Jordan, but it's also saying goodbye to guys who hurt her like RL Chad forever (hopefully). If any of this speculation is true, who then would be the "nice guy" that JoJo chooses?

Litta123 wrote: If any of this speculation is true, who then would be the "nice guy" that JoJo chooses?

I could certainly think of one. :Bubba:

Ok, so if Jordan leaves, when are we speculating he leaves? Right before HT or right after HT? We know of 3 that go to HT, and 3 I assume go to Thailand.

If I was writing this script :cutesmile!: -Jordan leaves after HT, we see Jo crying at airport because she thinks she loves the guy. She moves on with her F3 in Thailand, gets rid of Chase or Robby and keeps Luke-we're down to F2. To add drama, Jordan writes her the letter and wants her back before the FRC starts, so she gets rid of her F2 guy at a different location and brings Jordan back and after thinking along the beach- at the FRC she can't go through with keeping him because of what he did, to much distrust there now...the curse of Jojo picking the bad boy is over...and she picks the MAN she can trust, who she feels safe with, no conflict but has had a slow and steady burn for and loves also, match made in unicorn heaven! Sorry, I'm no writer, but couldn't resist.

My theory on the blue dress crying by hanger: it takes place at epi 7 RC after letting JT go. The Vo of "that scares me" is from some other context. Police cars are nothing.

I am posting this to see if anyone else saw the same thing that I did. Somewhere, and I cannot remember which episode it was in (i am thinking maybe episode one towards beginning when they were high lighting Jojo), there was a clip of Jojo in the back seat of a vehicle, alone. One second she had a silver bracelet on her left wrist, then in the next moment there was no bracelet. It caught my eye because it looked like a solid silver bracelet similar to the one that Robby always wears on his right wrist. Anyone know what I am talking about? I know sometimes in the past, sleuthers have picked up on certain jewelry or accessories....

MiaHawk wrote:I am posting this to see if anyone else saw the same thing that I did.  Somewhere, and I cannot remember which episode it was in (i am thinking maybe episode one towards beginning when they were high lighting Jojo), there was a clip of Jojo in the back seat of a vehicle, alone. One second she had a silver bracelet on her left wrist, then in the next moment there was no bracelet. It caught my eye because it looked like a solid silver bracelet similar to the one that Robby always wears on his right wrist. Anyone know what I am talking about? I know sometimes in the past, sleuthers have picked up on certain jewelry or accessories....

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Mia, I rewatched many of the previews and didn't spot anything.  I did remember JoJo wearing a braclet during Ben's season and went back and looked at clips from the last few episodes of that season and she is wearing a solid silver braclet in many scenes.  Could the clip you are questioning be from her in the limo to and from the FRC??  I thought when they were promoting her season they did start by showing her being heart broken over Ben sending her home.

I saw something interesting tonight on my xfinity homepage. I did NOT click on the link, but it has me curious. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to discuss even just the headline here, so I won't without permission. But, if I'm honest, I'd love to talk it over with you guys...even just the headline without even clicking on the link. I don't even know which guy the article (video clip????) references, but it might help our speculation.

@Kashathediva, could we get a ruling on this? I only want to discuss the headline, not the content because I haven't clicked on the link. I can't unsee what I saw. I was just trying to get to my email.

PM me with the details. Then I can get an idea. 
I am going to log off for the night very soon...so hop to it! 

FYI guys, after discussing it with Kasha, I'm going to let the thing drop.

I went to the grocery store today, and as I was unloading my cart onto the belt, I realized out of my periferal vision that I had magazines to my right and left! I thought 'Oh, no! I don't want to see anything on the covers that might spoil me!' So I looked straight ahead and didn't even glance over to them. Phew! It's getting rough out there and not easy to stay completely unspoiled as you described, Litta. There are landmines all around us! Stay strong, everyone, stay strong. We have made it this far. We.Can.go.all.the.way.

Question for all of my "semi-unspoiled" friends here . . . . is there a time that you will go back to the UNSPOILED THREAD this season???

I know when it gets down to the F4 there will be many screen caps and analzying and for how good the sleuthers are I think the F1 could be determined before the actual show airs, at least the F2.  I feel like this thread has been great fun and I have tried to sleuth some things on my own, but I have been very careful not to go TOO FAR and ruin the excitement of viewing the show in real time. I popped in over in the Completely NS section and no one is posting at all   so just wondered if that will change in the next couple of weeks or if everyone will just stick here and the F1 will not be reveled until after the show has aired (??)

Sorry, I don't mean to be high-maintenance.  You all can just tell me to stay out of here if I don't want to be spoiled, but I miss the banter and scenerios you all contribute  I also don't know how you go from knowing the F4 to posting in the NS thread; it has to be hard to keep what you know or can discuss straight - I guess maybe I will wait until JoJo is down to her F4 then head over there.