Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #6

I have loved reading all of the comments here, and the excerpts provided. As most, I have ZERO intentions of purchasing her book. For me it was painful watching her on JPG's season, and honestly I couldn't believe they would cast such a bitch as the lead. That is a coveted position to be in, being THE bachelorette. I barely could stomach an entire season focused on her, but let's face it.. it was all about the eye candy and seeing who would be our next bachelor.
I loathed her even more after the ATFR aired, and was thankful I'd never have to see/hear about her again. Then came the book.
I will say this, just as Kasha, I find it difficult to believe she could be worse then I imagined. She's bitter. Everyone has moved on, except her. The fact that she's throwing about names like The View, or The Talk because we all know she's in that league. As if...

She doesn't have a clue what female empowerment/feminism means. It's just her go-to excuse/explanation about everything. Why are revealing personal details? - I'm a feminist! Why are you using numbers? - I'm a feminist! Why aren't you putting your law degree to use? - I'm a feminist!
An empowered woman has her s*t together, isn't supported by her parents at almost 30 years old, even though she has all the opportunities to work in a great profession.

yana_bach wrote:She doesn't have a clue what female empowerment/feminism means. It's just her go-to excuse/explanation about everything. Why are revealing personal details? - I'm a feminist! Why are you using numbers? - I'm a feminist! Why aren't you putting your law degree to use? - I'm a feminist!
An empowered woman has her s*t together, isn't supported by her parents at almost 30 years old, even though she has all the opportunities to work in a great profession.

I was thinking that too....she is saying that she is using numbers instead of names because "who wants your ex's name in your book?" But that is what the book is about! It doesn't make sense. I'm also confused about how it's okay for the bachelorette to having a lot of guys "drooling" over the bachelorette but it's not okay for the bachelor to have a lot of women, the premise of the show. How is that feminism?

sparkler wrote:

yana_bach wrote:She doesn't have a clue what female empowerment/feminism means. It's just her go-to excuse/explanation about everything. Why are revealing personal details? - I'm a feminist! Why are you using numbers? - I'm a feminist! Why aren't you putting your law degree to use? - I'm a feminist!
An empowered woman has her s*t together, isn't supported by her parents at almost 30 years old, even though she has all the opportunities to work in a great profession.

I was thinking that too....she is saying that she is using numbers instead of names because "who wants your ex's name in your book?" But that is what the book is about! It doesn't make sense. I'm also confused about how it's okay for the bachelorette to having a lot of guys "drooling" over the bachelorette but it's not okay for the bachelor to have a lot of women, the premise of the show. How is that feminism?

Yes, exactly! I noticed that, too. JoJo or any other Bachelorette having 25 guys competing for her - good, feminist. Juan or any bachelor having 25 women - bad, not feminist.

Her brand of feminism seems to be that women can say or do anything they want and it's empowering but men have to shut up and still be gentlemen. If a woman feels empowered ess okay! I say she gets away with a lot of chit merely because she's a woman. A man would never get away with writing a tell-all book referring to women as numbers or kissing and telling about what lousy lays they were, nor should he.

All JMO.

To me, real empowerment is lifting up others, especially those that are in need or suffering. 
Real empowerment is setting a good role model/example.
Real empowerment is kindness. Real empowerment is empathy. 
Real empowerment is hope and providing it for those that need it. 
Real empowerment is knowing you don't need to put others down in order to lift yourself up.

@ Kash

Andi Dorfman News 2016: Former Reality Star Receives Major Backlash For ‘Whore’ Comments [VIDEO]

Andi Dorfman
Former 'Bacheorette' star Andi Dorfman is getting very little sympathy from both her fans and critics after she claimed that her ex-fiance Josh Murray called her a "whore" during their relationship. (Photo : Getty Images )
It looks like very few people are Team Andi these days. In fact, former Bachelorette star Andi Dorfman is getting very little sympathy from both her fans and critics after she claimed that her ex-fiancé Josh Murray called her a "whore" during their relationship.

According to Us Weekly on Wednesday, Dorfman made the revelation in order to help promote her new book, It's Not Okay. She and Murray broke up after being engaged for only six months.

"I was 100 percent sure I'd spend my life with him," she told the publication, adding that during fights, he would sometimes call her a "bitch" or a "whore."

Dorman further says that the engagement was "the most volatile and f---ed up relationship" of her life.

Yet, many of her fans can't help but recall how Dorfman slept with another contestant, Nick Viall, only a few days before she accepted Murray's marriage proposal.

Comments from readers of the interview include, "I hesitate to believe very one-sided accounts of breakups. I'm sure his version would be very different," along with, "If he called her the W word then that's of course wrong and a clear sign of emotional abuse to come. However I would be upset too if I found out the person I was engaged to slept with someone else just a few days before proposing to me, even under the crazy circumstances of this show."

Another critic wrote, "I'm not sure why she's still trying to hang on to her 15 minutes. Just go back home and live your life. Not share all the dirty little secrets no one cares about. Enough is enough."

Dorfman's book hits store shelves on May 17.

Source: http://www.enstarz.com/articles/158859/20160512/andi-dorfman-news-2016-former-reality-star-receives-major-backlash-for-whore-comments-video.htm

They are right she is trying to hang on to her 15 mins.

Kashathediva wrote:To me, real empowerment is lifting up others, especially those that are in need or suffering. 
Real empowerment is setting a good role model/example.
Real empowerment is kindness. Real empowerment is empathy. 
Real empowerment is hope and providing it for those that need it. 
Real empowerment is knowing you don't need to put others down in order to lift yourself up.

Clearly, Andi does not qualify for any of those.

Andi's excuses and justifications..."I'm a feminist" make my blood boil.

Andi is a self serving narcissistic Anti feminist user...and a victimizer not a victim.

Everything I have seen from this woman has been all about Andi and her retaliating/exploding in anger at anyone who won't worship her and agree to her every selfish thought.

A real strong woman stands on her own and knows her worth is due to being empathetic and capable of lifting others up as she climbs the ladder of life's success by her own merits.  Not by trampling others.

Andi is disgusting and an embarrassment to strong woman of the "real" world.

JMO

I agree that Andi is giving feminism a bad name. Today's feminism isn't about emasculating men at all; if anything it's breaking down sex stereotypes (including male stereotypes) and looking at how to improve ALL women's lives (including women of all races, ethnicities, sexual orientations, religions etc.). I think she's in the wrong wave.

Also, Andi, if you really want to go back to law... go back to law. Take the NY bar, start sending out mass applications, reach out to recruiters, etc.

I will say this. She does have it right in the one interview by looking for someone who doesn't treat her badly. But she also has to look in the mirror to see that she treats other people badly and may need to fix herself first before she can be happy. The more I read these interviews, the more I think that therapy would be a really good idea.