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Post by Aunties_Love Tue May 03, 2016 2:24 am

cyannceyla wrote:
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bluwavz wrote:Didn't MF tweet that JoJo would be spending the day in water the same day as Robby's date though? If so then I do think he got the seals.
so he was on the 2/1 with seals and someone else with Jojo?  Just going by past seasons, and knowing how they have done the 2/1's for the Bette, it is always last.
The seals was a 1 on 1 according to the press release.
But it can't be both ways. What I mean by that is during epi 5, Robby was on the last date in the epi according to the date that the pics came out, that is the first time that there was a 2/1. Going by EVERY season that there is a 2/1, it is always filmed last so if Robby was on the last date, then he COULDN'T of had the seals on his date. The ID was the first filmed date so the seals would of been on that date and yea, they still could of taken a boat/ferry to the island from the warf in Punta del Este since that is the town that the guys stayed in. Therefore, it doesn't have to be exclusive to just Robby. Hope I am making myself understood and not talking in circles.


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Post by Aunties_Love Tue May 03, 2016 2:29 am

cyannceyla wrote:
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cyannceyla wrote:So going by the stats Auntie, there wasn't a second 1 on 1 in episode 5? Or 6 (considering it was most likely the same format: 2 on 1, 1 on 1 (stage production), and group date)? Where does this leave Chase and Jordan getting dates? Aren't there usually 6 or 7 guys who get 1 on 1's every season?
Normally when there isn't a 2/1, there are 2-1/1's and a group in epi 5-7.  IMO, we have epi 4 wide open for Chase, Jordan could of had one in epi 3.  We have one individual date in epi 3 and 4 un accounted for right now.  Here's the schedule and I put the names of the guys in on them with regards to who is still there or likely eliminated at that rc depending on sleuthed info as well as info that was told to us.  All the individual dates that are "open" are in red



FILMING SCHEDULE - BACHELORETTE -12


from bachette 10 filming schedule



Episode 1 – Los Angeles,  CA   (26 to 20 )
3/16: Meet & Greet            
3/17: move into mansion


Episode 2 –    S11 had 2 group, 1 ID 20 guys > 17 (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/18: Group Date: 10/1, at fire dept in Santa Fe; after party at Level downtown: more than 10 guys there   (Vincent,        
3/19: 1-on-1 Date: tweeted pics; Jojo and guy driving in Malibu;   DEREK      
3/20: Group Date: 6/1; tweeted pic, sportsnation date,                                
3/21: 2nd Rose Ceremony:  Fleiss tweeted confirmation(ELIMINATED:  


Episode 3 –   S11 - 2GD 1 ID  17 guys > 14?(Chase, Robby, Jordan, Luke, James, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/22: 1-on-1 Date:                        
3/23: Group Date: 12/1: fleiss tweet: RS tweet: each got on stage to tell about sex story - Sunday Night Sex Talks
3/24: 1-on-1 Date: Culver City, CA James Taylor
3/25: 3rd Rose Ceremony; early in the day rc  ELIMINATED:  Jon, Brandon, Chad J,


Episode 4 –  S11 - 2GD 1ID - 14?  (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Peter, James F, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian,
Kennywood Park/Nemacolin Woodlands Resort: https://www.kennywood.com/        http://www.nemacolin.com/

3/26: travel/'B' roll filming
3/27 1 on 1 Date: involves a bi-plane from the Nemacolin Woodlands resort: could be going to Kennywood
3/28: 1 on 1 Date: Dan & Shay at Palace Theatre/per tweet: dogsled activity with group, winner gets dinner(The Supper Club) and dan/shay concert:  LUKE
3/29: Group Date:  Heinz Stadium  (Chase, Derek, Vincent, Jon,
3/30:  RC -  ELIMINATED:  Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian

3/31:  Travel per fleiss tweet....
4/1, 4/2


Episode 5 –  - S11 - 2 ID  1GD   10 In Montevideo, Uruaguy  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex, James F, Peter)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date
4/4: Group Date  tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg  That was tweeted out at:  11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay time.  Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.
4/5: 2/1 ROBBY was seen walking with Jojo.   Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony   ELIMINATED:  James F, Peter

4/7: Travel

Episode 6 –   S11 - 1 GD  2 ID - Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic  8-6  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH

talking about what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date Wells....eliminated; was on SM on 4/9
4/9: Group Date
4/10: 2-on-1 Date;  Alex eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony:  Alex and Wells eliminated

4/12: Travel


Episode 7 – could be 2 or 3 ID dates  Filming in Mendoza, Argentina  @ Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date
4/14: 1-on-1 Date
4/15: Group Date
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony  ELIMINATED:  James, ??

4/17: Travel per fleiss and harrison's tweet  20 + hr flight so will take 2 days
4/18: Travel

Episode 8 - HTDs (4 - 3)
4/19: HTD #1 Chase McNary  Castle Rock, CO  
4/20: Travel
4/21: HTD #2  Robby: St. Augustine, FL
4/22:   Still in St. Augustine / travel to next date
4/23: HTD #3  Luke in Burnet, TX
4/24: Travel
4/25: HTD#4  Jordan in Chico, CA
4/26: 8th Rose Ceremony:  ELIMINATED: Luke

4/27: Travel
4/28: Travel


Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2)  Hua Hin, Thailand( Chase, Jordan, Robby)
4/29: day off
4/30: FD1
5/1: DAY OFF
5/2: FD2
5/3: DAY OFF
5/4: FD3
5/5:  RC

5/6  Day off/travel to Phuket, Thailand
Ok, but don't 3 people usually get a second 1 on 1? 1 guy in episode 6 and 2 guys in episode 7?

Again, with there being 2 - 2/1's this season, with one in epi 5 and one in epi 6, there WON'T be two individual dates in epi 6 because the traveling dates, tweeted dates, etc match up to the schedule that is above. In past seasons, we haven't had 2 - 2/1's therefore there had always(most always) been 2 ID in epi 6 and 2 in epi 7. The point is though, that all dates and traveling times are matching up so with that in mind, there just isn't enough days in their timeline to put 2 ID's in epi 6 plus a group date plus a 2/1


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Post by bluwavz Tue May 03, 2016 2:32 am

How do we know there was a 2-on-1 in episode 5 though? Why couldn't both have happened in episode 6?
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Post by Aunties_Love Tue May 03, 2016 2:33 am

cyannceyla wrote:
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cyannceyla wrote:Auntie, do you have any stats for if the F1 is ever shown getting out of the limos in the promos (maybe 1st one)?

EDITED limo order for F1's

BACHELORETTE:

6 :  11
7:   21
8:   11
9:   16
10: 25
11: 18



BACHELOR

12:   15
13:   Melissa 3/  Molly 16
14:   11
15:   28
16:   6
17:   10
18:   5
19:   2
20:   1
No, not the limo order exits. laugh out loud The promos. Do they usually show F1 in the promos?
Sorry, don't know. I would have to go through all of the past seasons again and watch the promo's


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Post by Aunties_Love Tue May 03, 2016 2:35 am

bluwavz wrote:Were there even any confirmed 1-on-1's in Buenos Aires? Is it possible that the two 2-on-1's were both in episode 6?
I believe in that video, Harrison says that there will be ANOTHER 2/1 in that epi and that was for epi 6 so that leads me to think that there was already one somewhere along the way.


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Post by Aunties_Love Tue May 03, 2016 2:40 am

grace8136 wrote:You forgot to eliminate Derek. Poor guy is still waiting for a rose in Argentina.
Episode 5 – 10 In Punta del Este, Uruaguy (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex, James F, Peter)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date
4/4: Group Date tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg That was tweeted out at: 11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay

time. Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.
4/5: 2/1 ROBBY was seen walking with Jojo. Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated

to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony ELIMINATED: James F, Peter

4/7: Travel

Episode 6 – Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic 8-6 (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH talking about

what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date Wells....eliminated
4/9: Group Date
4/10: 2-on-1 Date; Alex eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony: Alex and Wells eliminated

4/12: Travel


Episode 7 – Filming in Mendoza, Argentina @ Entre Cielos Hotel http://entrecielos.com/ (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date
4/14: 1-on-1 Date
4/15: Group Date
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony ELIMINATED: James, ??


If there were 2 let go in epi 6 as I think there were considering there was a 2/1 and an individual date as well as a group date, the 2/1's have been filmed last, therefore both Alex(per RS was eliminated) and Wells per his SM activity, therefore, would they have a RC still and eliminate another guy......this means only 5 go to epi 7? It's been done a few times before so wondering if it could be done again, and in that case, who and when.....that's kind of why I left Derek hanging as I didn't know where to put the poor dude.


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Post by Guest Tue May 03, 2016 7:49 am

Blue, I'm pretty sure Harrison said something along the lines of there "being a 2nd 2 on 1 which has never happened before" in the video we got of the men arriving in Buneos Aires.

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Post by bluwavz Tue May 03, 2016 7:58 am

Ah thanks. I listened to that video and I couldn't understand what he was saying.
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Post by Guest Tue May 03, 2016 8:03 am

bluwavz wrote:Ah thanks. I listened to that video and I couldn't understand what he was saying.
I also think that's what the tweeter had said in her comment when she posted the video, but I'm not entirely sure.

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Post by gurlbrit Tue May 03, 2016 10:50 am

cyannceyla wrote:
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bluwavz wrote:Didn't MF tweet that JoJo would be spending the day in water the same day as Robby's date though? If so then I do think he got the seals.
so he was on the 2/1 with seals and someone else with Jojo?  Just going by past seasons, and knowing how they have done the 2/1's for the Bette, it is always last.
The seals was a 1 on 1 according to the press release.

Can we get a "confirmed" and "Unknown" on the schedule so that we know what is and isn't supposition? If the press release states that the seals is a 1-1 then it couldn't be a 2-1.

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Post by Kashathediva Tue May 03, 2016 10:56 am

After going through several pages of back and forth, I think the above would be a great idea. 
My opinion, only what is confirmed matters.



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Post by gurlbrit Tue May 03, 2016 11:45 am

Kashathediva wrote:After going through several pages of back and forth, I think the above would be a great idea. 
My opinion, only what is confirmed matters.

If we can match up a date to either a press release or SM I think that should be listed as confirmed, all others should be considered "unknown" until we can get some type of confirmation. Confusion lies where we have extra dates (i.e. the additional 2 on 1 which Manson talked about) and we are trying to figure out whether that date falls in Episode 5 or 6.

The pre-season press release should give us some type of confirmation up thru HTD's or even FD's.

I love the term "secret location" for the FD's and RC - RS spoiled as Thailand, but do we actually know that?


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