The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Social Media - Media - Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #3

Aunties_Love wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Didn't MF tweet that JoJo would be spending the day in water the same day as Robby's date though? If so then I do think he got the seals.

so he was on the 2/1 with seals and someone else with Jojo?  Just going by past seasons, and knowing how they have done the 2/1's for the Bette, it is always last.

The seals were a 1 on 1.

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
JoJo will be spending part of the day under water... #TheBachelorette

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
The L-word was just uttered... #TheBachelorette

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
Looks to me like a beautiful woman falling in love... #TheBachelorette
with old pic (could be unrelated, but same day)

The seals are a 5 minute drive from Capi Bar.

Aunties_Love wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
Sorry to be difficult but with the bolded, actually it was epi 7 that both Jojo and Lauren had their 2nd ID.  In Soules's season, his F2 had her first ID date in epi 6.  With regard to the date pic in epi 4,  I see 9 guys there in that pic.  Does anyone else have any idea as to who the guys were?  I can easily change the names/numbers around

I think #2 is Evan. I think #4 is James F. I'm not sure if the one labeled 'Chase' is actually Chase or Jordan. Those two guys look quite similar imo. Anyone have any idea?

Wil would of been there still in epi 4 and I thought that was him?

I'm sorry, I don't understand this... What are you trying to say?

Aunties_Love wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Didn't MF tweet that JoJo would be spending the day in water the same day as Robby's date though? If so then I do think he got the seals.

so he was on the 2/1 with seals and someone else with Jojo?  Just going by past seasons, and knowing how they have done the 2/1's for the Bette, it is always last.

The seals was a 1 on 1 according to the press release.

cyannceyla wrote:So going by the stats Auntie, there wasn't a second 1 on 1 in episode 5? Or 6 (considering it was most likely the same format: 2 on 1, 1 on 1 (stage production), and group date)? Where does this leave Chase and Jordan getting dates? Aren't there usually 6 or 7 guys who get 1 on 1's every season?

Normally when there isn't a 2/1, there are 2-1/1's and a group in epi 5-7.  IMO, we have epi 4 wide open for Chase, Jordan could of had one in epi 3.  We have one individual date in epi 3 and 4 un accounted for right now.  Here's the schedule and I put the names of the guys in on them with regards to who is still there or likely eliminated at that rc depending on sleuthed info as well as info that was told to us.  All the individual dates that are "open" are in red



FILMING SCHEDULE - BACHELORETTE -12


from bachette 10 filming schedule



Episode 1 – Los Angeles,  CA   (26 to 20 )
3/16: Meet & Greet            
3/17: move into mansion


Episode 2 –    S11 had 2 group, 1 ID 20 guys > 17 (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/18: Group Date: 10/1, at fire dept in Santa Fe; after party at Level downtown: more than 10 guys there   (Vincent,        
3/19: 1-on-1 Date: tweeted pics; Jojo and guy driving in Malibu;   DEREK      
3/20: Group Date: 6/1; tweeted pic, sportsnation date,                                
3/21: 2nd Rose Ceremony:  Fleiss tweeted confirmation(ELIMINATED:  


Episode 3 –   S11 - 2GD 1 ID  17 guys > 14?(Chase, Robby, Jordan, Luke, James, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/22: 1-on-1 Date:                        
3/23: Group Date: 12/1: fleiss tweet: RS tweet: each got on stage to tell about sex story - Sunday Night Sex Talks
3/24: 1-on-1 Date: Culver City, CA James Taylor
3/25: 3rd Rose Ceremony; early in the day rc  ELIMINATED:  Jon, Brandon, Chad J,


Episode 4 –  S11 - 2GD 1ID - 14?  (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Peter, James F, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian,
Kennywood Park/Nemacolin Woodlands Resort: https://www.kennywood.com/        http://www.nemacolin.com/

3/26: travel/'B' roll filming
3/27 1 on 1 Date: involves a bi-plane from the Nemacolin Woodlands resort: could be going to Kennywood
3/28: 1 on 1 Date: Dan & Shay at Palace Theatre/per tweet: dogsled activity with group, winner gets dinner(The Supper Club) and dan/shay concert:  LUKE
3/29: Group Date:  Heinz Stadium  (Chase, Derek, Vincent, Jon,
3/30:  RC -  ELIMINATED:  Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian

3/31:  Travel per fleiss tweet....
4/1, 4/2


Episode 5 –  - S11 - 2 ID  1GD   10 In Montevideo, Uruaguy  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex, James F, Peter)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date
4/4: Group Date  tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg  That was tweeted out at:  11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay time.  Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.
4/5: 2/1 ROBBY was seen walking with Jojo.   Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony   ELIMINATED:  James F, Peter

4/7: Travel

Episode 6 –   S11 - 1 GD  2 ID - Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic  8-6  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH

talking about what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date Wells....eliminated; was on SM on 4/9
4/9: Group Date
4/10: 2-on-1 Date;  Alex eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony:  Alex and Wells eliminated

4/12: Travel


Episode 7 – could be 2 or 3 ID dates  Filming in Mendoza, Argentina  @ Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date
4/14: 1-on-1 Date
4/15: Group Date
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony  ELIMINATED:  James, ??

4/17: Travel per fleiss and harrison's tweet  20 + hr flight so will take 2 days
4/18: Travel

Episode 8 - HTDs (4 - 3)
4/19: HTD #1 Chase McNary  Castle Rock, CO  
4/20: Travel
4/21: HTD #2  Robby: St. Augustine, FL
4/22:   Still in St. Augustine / travel to next date
4/23: HTD #3  Luke in Burnet, TX
4/24: Travel
4/25: HTD#4  Jordan in Chico, CA
4/26: 8th Rose Ceremony:  ELIMINATED: Luke

4/27: Travel
4/28: Travel


Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2)  Hua Hin, Thailand( Chase, Jordan, Robby)
4/29: day off
4/30: FD1
5/1: DAY OFF
5/2: FD2
5/3: DAY OFF
5/4: FD3
5/5:  RC

5/6  Day off/travel to Phuket, Thailand

Aunties_Love wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:So going by the stats Auntie, there wasn't a second 1 on 1 in episode 5? Or 6 (considering it was most likely the same format: 2 on 1, 1 on 1 (stage production), and group date)? Where does this leave Chase and Jordan getting dates? Aren't there usually 6 or 7 guys who get 1 on 1's every season?

Normally when there isn't a 2/1, there are 2-1/1's and a group in epi 5-7.  IMO, we have epi 4 wide open for Chase, Jordan could of had one in epi 3.  We have one individual date in epi 3 and 4 un accounted for right now.  Here's the schedule and I put the names of the guys in on them with regards to who is still there or likely eliminated at that rc depending on sleuthed info as well as info that was told to us.  All the individual dates that are "open" are in red



FILMING SCHEDULE - BACHELORETTE -12


from bachette 10 filming schedule



Episode 1 – Los Angeles,  CA   (26 to 20 )
3/16: Meet & Greet            
3/17: move into mansion


Episode 2 –    S11 had 2 group, 1 ID 20 guys > 17 (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/18: Group Date: 10/1, at fire dept in Santa Fe; after party at Level downtown: more than 10 guys there   (Vincent,        
3/19: 1-on-1 Date: tweeted pics; Jojo and guy driving in Malibu;   DEREK      
3/20: Group Date: 6/1; tweeted pic, sportsnation date,                                
3/21: 2nd Rose Ceremony:  Fleiss tweeted confirmation(ELIMINATED:  


Episode 3 –   S11 - 2GD 1 ID  17 guys > 14?(Chase, Robby, Jordan, Luke, James, Derek, Wells, Jon, Brandon, Peter, James F, Vincent, Coley, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian, Grant, Chad J, Evan)

3/22: 1-on-1 Date:                        
3/23: Group Date: 12/1: fleiss tweet: RS tweet: each got on stage to tell about sex story - Sunday Night Sex Talks
3/24: 1-on-1 Date: Culver City, CA James Taylor
3/25: 3rd Rose Ceremony; early in the day rc  ELIMINATED:  Jon, Brandon, Chad J,


Episode 4 –  S11 - 2GD 1ID - 14?  (Chase, Robby, Jordan, James, Luke, Derek, Wells, Peter, James F, Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian,
Kennywood Park/Nemacolin Woodlands Resort: https://www.kennywood.com/        http://www.nemacolin.com/

3/26: travel/'B' roll filming
3/27 1 on 1 Date: involves a bi-plane from the Nemacolin Woodlands resort: could be going to Kennywood
3/28: 1 on 1 Date: Dan & Shay at Palace Theatre/per tweet: dogsled activity with group, winner gets dinner(The Supper Club) and dan/shay concert:  LUKE
3/29: Group Date:  Heinz Stadium  (Chase, Derek, Vincent, Jon,
3/30:  RC -  ELIMINATED:  Sal, Chad T, Wil, Christian

3/31:  Travel per fleiss tweet....
4/1, 4/2


Episode 5 –  - S11 - 2 ID  1GD   10 In Montevideo, Uruaguy  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex, James F, Peter)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date
4/4: Group Date  tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg  That was tweeted out at:  11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay time.  Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.
4/5: 2/1 ROBBY was seen walking with Jojo.   Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony   ELIMINATED:  James F, Peter

4/7: Travel

Episode 6 –   S11 - 1 GD  2 ID - Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic  8-6  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH

talking about what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date Wells....eliminated; was on SM on 4/9
4/9: Group Date
4/10: 2-on-1 Date;  Alex eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony:  Alex and Wells eliminated

4/12: Travel


Episode 7 – could be 2 or 3 ID dates  Filming in Mendoza, Argentina  @ Entre Cielos Hotel   http://entrecielos.com/  (James, Robby, Chase, Jordan, Luke, ??)

4/13: 1-on-1 Date
4/14: 1-on-1 Date
4/15: Group Date
4/16: 7th Rose Ceremony  ELIMINATED:  James, ??

4/17: Travel per fleiss and harrison's tweet  20 + hr flight so will take 2 days
4/18: Travel

Episode 8 - HTDs (4 - 3)
4/19: HTD #1 Chase McNary  Castle Rock, CO  
4/20: Travel
4/21: HTD #2  Robby: St. Augustine, FL
4/22:   Still in St. Augustine / travel to next date
4/23: HTD #3  Luke in Burnet, TX
4/24: Travel
4/25: HTD#4  Jordan in Chico, CA
4/26: 8th Rose Ceremony:  ELIMINATED: Luke

4/27: Travel
4/28: Travel


Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2)  Hua Hin, Thailand( Chase, Jordan, Robby)
4/29: day off
4/30: FD1
5/1: DAY OFF
5/2: FD2
5/3: DAY OFF
5/4: FD3
5/5:  RC

5/6  Day off/travel to Phuket, Thailand

Ok, but don't 3 people usually get a second 1 on 1? 1 guy in episode 6 and 2 guys in episode 7?

cyannceyla wrote:Auntie, do you have any stats for if the F1 is ever shown getting out of the limos in the promos (maybe 1st one)?

EDITED limo order for F1's

BACHELORETTE:

6 : 11
7: 21
8: 11
9: 16
10: 25
11: 18



BACHELOR

12: 15
13: Melissa 3/ Molly 16
14: 11
15: 28
16: 6
17: 10
18: 5
19: 2
20: 1

cyannceyla wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:
The seal date was a 1 on 1 and was 5 mintues or so from the bar that Robby and JoJo we're seen at, so its likely that he DID have that date imo. Plus, it would seem that there was a group date, a 1 on 1, and a 2 on 1 that episode at the very least. And possibly a 2nd 1 on 1, if there was enough time to fit that in.

This is epi 5 filming schedule and ALL that could fit in that epi.

Episode 5 –  - S11 - 2 ID  1GD   10 In Punta del Este, Uruaguy  (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex, James F, Peter)
4/3: 1-on-1 Date
4/4: Group Date  tweeted pics:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfNas0CUEAA3zNi.jpg  That was tweeted out at:  11:50am est or 12:50pm Cabo Polonio/Uruguay time.  Also Kristen Baldwin tweet talking about group date.
4/5: 2/1 Robert was seen walking with Jojo.   Capi Bar in Punta del Este. After leaving the bar with her date, they walked on the street and were then treated to a fireworks show.
4/6: 5th Rose Ceremony   ELIMINATED:   James F, Peter(both guys due to SM changes)

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IMO, cause this is the first epi for the 2/1, they WON'T go off that schedule at all.  IMO, Robert was on the 2/1 date going by the date of the pictures, etc.  for the 1/1 date, we don't know who was on that and that could very well of been the seal date due to them staying in the same town as the 2/1 date sighting.  I think it's too early to get a hard line on this but just going by past seasons, we know that in the bachelorette seasons, the 2/1 is ALWAYS filmed 3rd.

I can see this too, I guess. What do you think about episode 6's filming schedule then? Supposedly there's a 2nd 2 on 1, a 1 on stage production date, and I would assume a group date. Doesn't someone get a 2nd 1 on 1 this episode though usually? How would that fit in if there's a 2nd 2 on 1, a 1 on 1 (possibly for a late front runner..?), and a group date?

Episode 6 – S11 - 1 GD 2 ID - Buenos Aires/tweeted arrival pic 8-6 (Jordan, Robby, Luke, Wells, Derek, James, Chase, Alex ) another 2/1 per video about CH

talking about what to expect this week
4/8: 1-on-1 Date Wells....eliminated
4/9: Group Date
4/10: 2-on-1 Date; Alex eliminated
4/11: 6th Rose Ceremony: Alex and Wells eliminated

4/12: Travel

Aunties_Love wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:Auntie, do you have any stats for if the F1 is ever shown getting out of the limos in the promos (maybe 1st one)?

EDITED limo order for F1's

BACHELORETTE:

6 :  11
7:   21
8:   11
9:   16
10: 25
11: 18



BACHELOR

12:   15
13:   Melissa 3/  Molly 16
14:   11
15:   28
16:   6
17:   10
18:   5
19:   2
20:   1

No, not the limo order exits. The promos. Do they usually show F1 in the promos?

grace8136 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

bluwavz wrote:Didn't MF tweet that JoJo would be spending the day in water the same day as Robby's date though? If so then I do think he got the seals.

so he was on the 2/1 with seals and someone else with Jojo?  Just going by past seasons, and knowing how they have done the 2/1's for the Bette, it is always last.

The seals were a 1 on 1.

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
JoJo will be spending part of the day under water... #TheBachelorette

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
The L-word was just uttered... #TheBachelorette

Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister  Apr 5
Looks to me like a beautiful woman falling in love... #TheBachelorette
with old pic (could be unrelated, but same day)

The seals are a 5 minute drive from Capi Bar.

The Capi Bar is in the same town that all the guys are staying at so don't see how we can say 100% that Robby gets that date. Also, the date of the pics of Robby would be on the normal 2/1 order. Never has the 2/1 been filmed first and the 1/1 been filmed last. ALWAYS has the 2/1 been filmed 3rd. That's all I can say with 100% certainty right now. Also, the seals are on an Island, not just down from the bar.

JoJo whisks one bachelor to Isla de Lobos, an island which is inhabited by thousands of seals, and the duo swims among them.

I am working on what resort/hotel the group may of been staying at but all the guys stayed in Punta del Este so any of the guys were close enough. Sorry, but trying to figure this out with something that I was told is all.

Were there even any confirmed 1-on-1's in Buenos Aires? Is it possible that the two 2-on-1's were both in episode 6?

cyannceyla wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:
I think #2 is Evan. I think #4 is James F. I'm not sure if the one labeled 'Chase' is actually Chase or Jordan. Those two guys look quite similar imo. Anyone have any idea?

Wil would of been there still in epi 4 and I thought that was him?

I'm sorry, I don't understand this... What are you trying to say?

Sorry, #2, could that be Wil?

You forgot to eliminate Derek. Poor guy is still waiting for a rose in Argentina.