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Post by GuardianAngel Tue May 24, 2016 10:26 pm

Use this thread for sleuthing. This section is for old fashion sleuthing with NO SPOILERS.

Moved some posts are more sleuthing in nature!


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Post by GuardianAngel Tue May 24, 2016 10:32 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:
Katiebelle wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:This episode was so much on Jordan. Compared to last season if it is an obvious edit I think Jordan may be the Shawn B but not as alpha - Chad seems like the alpha?

Not sure though if he is like Shawn B though because Shawn was going on first episode how he was falling in love with her first episode and while Jordan seemed nervous and had the physical connection I didn't get he was vocalizing love at first sight? JoJo seemed more into him?

I don't know... something feels off about Jordan? Maybe he reminds me too much of Jef (Emily's season F1) and Josh M (Andi's F1) but not as alpha?

I also think it is important to note that JoJo said she normally goes for the bad boys and didn't with Ben and look how that turned out. So is she saying - no more bad boys for her or she tried a nice guy and got her heart broken.
Great points @Katiebelle  yes JoJo did say that so I'm probably clouding my view based on past seasons (Jef, Josh M) since I do think Jordan's spiel/intro was very much like Josh M. That preview definitely showed more Chad being aggressive to Jordan so Jordan could be more like Nick editwise (not personality) so a combined Nick from both seasons( FIR - Andi, drama/attacked - Kaitlyn) editwise? If Jordan is F2 I can see him getting the physical edit with all of that as well. Not sure though... So far I think the the real bad boy edit is Chad but that preview though she was asking Robby about his girlfriend or something so maybe he is the bad boy too? That's a lot of bad boys in the preview then!

Maybe she will choose one of the non-drama guys? The preview seemed no drama surrounding Luke so he could be or even Chase or Alex I don't see her being with but maybe? Those three seem like they didn't have drama. Only Chase with no intro video from that preview I think? Maybe he is hidden F1? I could see Chase more like Ben in personality maybe?

Hmm... I totally think you are onto something @Katiebelle and wonder if that is JoJo's theme this season: does she choose a Good boy vs Bad boy theme? So someone like her past or someone like Ben? I wonder if that's why TPTB had that contestant dress up as Santa Claus since Santa is all about who is naughty or nice? So maybe that is theme of JoJo's season? Will JoJo pick someone naughty or nice?



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Post by GuardianAngel Tue May 24, 2016 10:35 pm

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Katiebelle wrote: snipped

Who do you think they have already highlighted for the next Bach? Christian?
I'm thinking maybe Luke based on first ep. His intro video was very next lead, imo, and everything he did seemed very planned but perfect. I remember Ben had the "doing all the right things" thing as well but still being edited as sincere? I noted that Luke wasn't shown in any drama so that can help if he is producer's pick. I will watch to see if JoJo starts talking about Luke and how he is marriage material like K did with Ben - so talking about him rather than her feelings for him then I can see him as being set up for next lead. If the feelings are more there and focused on he may be F1 or in F2 but if next lead I don't see another F2 getting lead gig again like JoJo did? I definitely think he is in F4.

Christian had a great intro but I don't think they'd choose him as lead. I don't think he was shown much in the preview unless I missed it so sadly I think they just propping up the "diversity" thing again and go with the typical guy. Grant seemed to be more focused than Christian but for the same reason I don't think he will be lead. TPTB stick to their formula, I think :/

I would like to see more of the other guys shown in the preview though.

I liked Chase he seemed very normal kind of guy at the CP and no drama shown with him either. Same with Alex but think Luke overshadows him and his height doesn't help. Jordan I am not sure of but I guess he could be if he is heartbroken. That preview though it felt like his motives were being questioned which is not usually a clean-Bach lead edit, imo. Robby I would have thought before the preview but he had past girlfriend drama? I don't know the names of the others enough to guess so maybe there's no chance since I can't remember who they are anyway. giggling


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Post by kimberlyg Wed May 25, 2016 12:58 am

Hi sleuthing thread! Question - do post-show articles count here? Because I'd like to read those for sleuthing purposes (see what guys JoJo mentions more and what she says about them, etc.), but I can't google them because I'm afraid I will see the winner or get spoiled.

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Post by kimberlyg Wed May 25, 2016 1:04 am

As for the show, I swear I can't tell Chase and Robby apart at all. I thought I saw Robby in the previews, but maybe it was Chase? Or maybe it was both of them? Or maybe they switch? laugh out loud.

My stealth pick after episode 1 is Alex. Even though from the two seconds I saw of him (I only saw like the last 40 minutes of the episode) he reminded me of Cupcake, he seemed to be all over the previews making out with JoJo. But I could be completely off-base and she goes with the too-obvious Luke or Jordan. It will be interested to see who doesn't get a date next week, since there have been a few seasons in a row that the F1 did not get a date the first week.

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Post by GuardianAngel Wed May 25, 2016 9:41 am

Post show articles are fine because they would refer to the epi that already aired. I would c/paste the article and post the link for the source with a caution if the link is viewed there may be comments. 

Do you mean JoJo's blogs?


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Post by nd4reality Wed May 25, 2016 10:15 am

Have they shown previews for Episode 2 as yet ?

All I saw is the season preview.


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Post by DMBFan Wed May 25, 2016 11:46 am

GuardianAngel wrote:Post show articles are fine because they would refer to the epi that already aired. I would c/paste the article and post the link for the source with a caution if the link is viewed there may be comments. 

Do you mean JoJo's blogs?

I would like to see JoJo's & CH blogs copy & pasted so we can read them but don't want to click on a link if possible. Can we have them in a different thread?

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Post by GuardianAngel Wed May 25, 2016 12:56 pm

Ok as soon as they are out, I will create a thread for the blogs! I will copy and paste the actual blog. yes


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Post by DMBFan Wed May 25, 2016 2:24 pm

GuardianAngel wrote:Ok as soon as they are out, I will create a thread for the blogs! I will copy and paste the actual blog. yes

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Post by fijibeachbum Wed May 25, 2016 8:16 pm

Just my two cents, as I am attempting to use my knowledge of how the show works to figure it out before I read spoilers.... If I can hold out.

I watched the first episode with my daughter, so it wasn't detail oriented for sleuthing. I will watch it a second time to take notes and allow for details. But my first impression was that Jordan goes far, possible F2/F3, and could be the physical edit, since JoJo was definitely into him. I don't know if they'd go the way of Jesse Palmer and have another FB player as the next lead, but I could see him getting it. He is charismatic. Luke also had a significant amount of screen time, so either he is the in your face F1 or grooming for the next lead. I can't remember the other names, just a lot of bearded faces that seem to go far. I agree that I think Chad will bring the drama. I'm going to watch it again and if something screams at me, I'll post. Otherwise, I may wait to make predictions until I see next week's episode. I will watch the preview with some discernment also.

And, I also find it annoying that we don't get names of the bachelors early and often. I can't remember names and faces, and when there are multiple look-a-likes, it makes remembering even harder.
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Post by Kashathediva Wed May 25, 2016 8:34 pm

Yes, several agreed it would be nice if they put the names, age, jobs etc by the faces more often. yes



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