The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - F1-F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

stuckinsc wrote:

cyannceyla wrote:

sosleepy wrote:^^ Very true. But if this show really gets 4 couples in a row right, well, that would be a new record and dang near a miracle. They'd start to deserve better credit for their "match making."

Statistics don't matter to the individual. That's why I said I'm not TOTALLY willing to write off JoJo's season yet. I need to at least see how the first few episodes play out and see these guys in motion. I do think we are overdue for a trainwreck season. Maybe Jo's season will turn out, but Jordan will give us the trainwreck next winter.

We had a train wreck season with all of Kaitlyn's season..**IMO**.and just her in general. That was literally the last Ette season. And the last two episodes of Ben's season were quite 'train wrecky' too.

I totally agree. Kaitlyn found Shawn, but the whole season was a wreck and Ben's diarrhea of ILY added some trainwreck to his boringness.

I will wait until the season airs to decide if it is good, bad, or sideways. And Des had a huge trainwreck and now an awesome marriage, so even if it is a drama filled ride it can still have a great outcome.

I am not picking the order because I actually want to see her with the guys first. Blogger boy has messed up on two of the last three bachelorettes pre-season, so I am not taking his word for anything.

Great points stuck!!!

I said myself I'm not willing to write JoJo's season off yet. I liked Jo during Ben's season. I think it would be great for her to get her HEA. I'm also totally willing to give all these guys a shot - even Robby. Like I said, I was an Ed fan. So I for sure am even willing to give Robby a shot. We know nothing until we start seeing the chemie between these guys and Jo. I just never go into these seasons with incredibly high hopes.

I'm looking forward to this season. I liked JoJo on Ben's season. Ben's girls, including Lauren Bushnell, Lauren Himle, Jubilee, Amanda, Caila, and Becca have had nothing but high praise for JoJo, including saying things such as, "she's the sweetest, most gentle, kind and fun person I've ever met" which was said by Lauren H.

I like her F4 too. All of them seem to have some positive attributes from what I can tell. It all depends on how I see them on screen with JoJo, but just simply from what we have now, I'd be okay with any of the F4 ending up with her or any of the F4 being the next lead.

I'm excited to see it all play out.

 I remember before the season started airing, Steve did an interview at the local Dallas station, and when asked who was the most universally well liked in the house, he said JoJo (and Amanda.) I remember her brother also saying she had really good women's intuition when talking about trusting her opinion more than anyone else's on women he dates via Ready For Love.

 It also helps that Jo seems to equally be a guys girl AND a girls girl. She caters to both. She catered to both all of Ben's season. It's truly amazing actually. It's very difficult to be likable to both men and women, I've noticed. Especially on television. But she does it more than well. The guys wanted her AND the girls wanted to be her/be her best friend. Pretty amazing.

^^ For some reason, I always had the feeling JoJo appealed more to women than men. During Ben's season, I definitely wanted her for the next 'ette, but my husband never warmed up to her. He thought she was a butterface. He actually wanted Caila as the next lead! (Lol - in so much as he actually cares. Poor dude gets suckered into watching this year after year with me - he only half pays attention and is in and out.) Quick poll of my friend's husbands who watch the show, and none were particularly enamored with Jo, but myself and all my girlfriends were happy with Jo as the next lead. Small sampling size, obviously.  But it was my unscientific opinion JoJo appeals more to girls than guys.

sosleepy wrote:^^ For some reason, I always had the feeling JoJo appealed more to women than men. During Ben's season, I definitely wanted her for the next 'ette, but my husband never warmed up to her. He thought she was a butterface. He actually wanted Caila as the next lead! (Lol - in so much as he actually cares. Poor dude gets suckered into watching this year after year with me - he only half pays attention and is in and out.) Quick poll of my friend's husbands who watch the show, and none were particularly enamored with Jo, but myself and all my girlfriends were happy with Jo as the next lead. Small sampling size, obviously.  But it was my unscientific opinion JoJo appeals more to girls than guys.

I've seen a few posters say their husbands thought/think the same as yours. But from what I noticed on social media, especially Twitter, most notably at its all time high on finale night, 98% of the men that were tweeting about The Bachelor were team JoJo. Then again, according to People.com, 94% of the people tweeting about The Bachelor that night were team JoJo in general. But anyhow, all over social media the whole season, I noticed men would talk about how much of a babe and bombshell she was and women wanted to be her/be her BFF because she was so funny, emotional (relatable), had great style, perfect body, etc.

Source on the statistics: http://www.people.com/article/jojo-fletcher-the-ultimate-bachelorette

The topic is JoJo's F1-F4.

I really need to see these guys in action. So far, based on pictures, none of them do anything for me. I hope they are better when on screen and at least one of them has some interest in JoJo, because I can't see her having much interest in any of them long term.

Sprite wrote:I really need to see these guys in action. So far, based on pictures, none of them do anything for me. I hope they are better when on screen and at least one of them has some interest in JoJo, because I can't see her having much interest in any of them long term.

I completely agree.  Maybe in motion they will be better.  I hope so.

I wouldn't be surprised if JoJo ends up with her ex eventually after all this.

I think Chad is dating someone at the moment. He also finally deleted all his pictures of her off his IG after she was announced as Ette. I think he's done with her. At least for now. She should probably close that chapter of her life. If it wasn't working out before, I don't see how she'd think it would work out eventually. IMO.

I think they are done and he wasn't too happy about it, hence the interview and Millsy or MF (forgot which) calling him a jerk or something during WTA.

Taking photos of his sm can also be to paint the picture that they are over. Maybe they really are and maybe those photos can be added back at a later date. 
To me all it means is it encourages the masses to think they are over for now which may be needed to make the couple truly appear authentically done. 
As far as what TPTB say, tweet, gargle etc--pppfffft.