The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - F1-F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

kayfay wrote:I'm going to mix it up and predict that Robby makes F2 because she likes him but is torn by not being able to trust him, Luke makes F3 because he seems likeable but kind of vanilla a la Ben, Jordan will be F4, and Chase is going to dark horse into the lead.

I like the way you think.  I am very optimistic--I always am at the start of every season!  Way too early to already declare the season is over and JoJo goes home empty handed.  Some have said no lasting relationship.  People said that about Ben, Jillian, Jason, Ali, Kait, Ashley...the list goes on and on.  

I think her top 4 look and seem fantastic!  Good for Jo.  I wish her the best and hope she finds love.  :cutesmile!:

My only prediction is Jordan is either F1 or the next Bachelor. I don't see this shaking out without him landing one of those "winning" positions.

I'm not totally ready to write off the entire season. We have yet to see JoJo's chemie with any of these guys. We haven't seen anything in motion yet. Too soon to blow it off as a wasted season, IMO. I'm even willing to give Robby a chance. I loved Ed Swiderski, despite all his during the season baggage. That being said, I don't have my hopes super high (mostly because I never do), but also because I don't see this show getting it right 3x in a row (4x if you count BIP2 and Janner). I just don't see how the show could manage such a streak.

^^^Haha Stranger things have happened! ;)

sosleepy wrote:My only prediction is Jordan is either F1 or the next Bachelor. I don't see this shaking out without him landing one of those "winning" positions.

I'm not totally ready to write off the entire season. We have yet to see JoJo's chemie with any of these guys. We haven't seen anything in motion yet. Too soon to blow it off as a wasted season, IMO.  I'm even willing to give Robby a chance. I loved Ed Swiderski, despite all his during the season baggage. That being said, I don't have my hopes super high (mostly because I never do), but also because I don't see this show getting it right 3x in a row (4x if you count BIP2 and Janner). I just don't see how the show could manage such a streak.

It's not about the show 'getting it right" though. Like Sharleen has said, it's about whether the right person is there or not for the lead. That's more fate than anything else. As is every season. Luck. Has nothing to do with the show taking credit for anything.******IMO*****

^^^^Cyan you are so right. I have a feeling it is working out for Jo. ;)

^^ Very true. But if this show really gets 4 couples in a row right, well, that would be a new record and dang near a miracle. They'd start to deserve better credit for their "match making."

Statistics don't matter to the individual. That's why I said I'm not TOTALLY willing to write off JoJo's season yet. I need to at least see how the first few episodes play out and see these guys in motion. I do think we are overdue for a trainwreck season. Maybe Jo's season will turn out, but Jordan will give us the trainwreck next winter.

sosleepy wrote:^^ Very true. But if this show really gets 4 couples in a row right, well, that would be a new record and dang near a miracle. They'd start to deserve better credit for their "match making."

Statistics don't matter to the individual. That's why I said I'm not TOTALLY willing to write off JoJo's season yet. I need to at least see how the first few episodes play out and see these guys in motion. I do think we are overdue for a trainwreck season. Maybe Jo's season will turn out, but Jordan will give us the trainwreck next winter.

We had a train wreck season with all of Kaitlyn's season..**IMO**.and just her in general. That was literally the last Ette season. And the last two episodes of Ben's season were quite 'train wrecky' too.

kayfay wrote:I'm going to mix it up and predict that Robby makes F2 because she likes him but is torn by not being able to trust him, Luke makes F3 because he seems likeable but kind of vanilla a la Ben, Jordan will be F4, and Chase is going to dark horse into the lead.

My guess, going on nothing but guessing, LOL....

4....Chase
3....Luke (and the next lead)
2.....Robbie
1.....Jordan

The astrology of the season:

JoJo: Scorpio
Chase: Pisces
Robby: Capricorn
Luke: Libra
Jordan: Virgo

Alright - I guess I'll play:

F1 - Jordan. JoCubed (Jo^3?) Please let that be their couple name!) last 6-8 months.
F2 - Robby/Chase. I could see F2 going either way. Either the dark horse nice guy (Chase), or the controversial Robby.
F3 - Luke. Meet Bachelor 21.
F4 - Robby/Chase

cyannceyla wrote:

sosleepy wrote:^^ Very true. But if this show really gets 4 couples in a row right, well, that would be a new record and dang near a miracle. They'd start to deserve better credit for their "match making."

Statistics don't matter to the individual. That's why I said I'm not TOTALLY willing to write off JoJo's season yet. I need to at least see how the first few episodes play out and see these guys in motion. I do think we are overdue for a trainwreck season. Maybe Jo's season will turn out, but Jordan will give us the trainwreck next winter.

We had a train wreck season with all of Kaitlyn's season..**IMO**.and just her in general. That was literally the last Ette season. And the last two episodes of Ben's season were quite 'train wrecky' too.

I totally agree. Kaitlyn found Shawn, but the whole season was a wreck and Ben's diarrhea of ILY added some trainwreck to his boringness.

I will wait until the season airs to decide if it is good, bad, or sideways. And Des had a huge trainwreck and now an awesome marriage, so even if it is a drama filled ride it can still have a great outcome.

I am not picking the order because I actually want to see her with the guys first. Blogger boy has messed up on two of the last three bachelorettes pre-season, so I am not taking his word for anything.

^^ whoop whoop