The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - NO SPOILERS - Discussion

Agree, I'm getting the villain vibe from Chad.

It was so obvious that Jordan would get the first impression rose. I'm still not sure that he's as nice as he seems to be.

What do you ladies think of JoJo as the lead so far?

She's been fine so far. I don't really have any complaints. Except for the fact that she's apparently close friends with Jake Pavelka...

That Jake thing was really really really stupid.  

Anyway, my DVR got screwed up, so I only got to see the very end of the episode.  I basically have no opinion on anyone.  FIR dude seems a little too smooth.  I'm 100% unspoiled, so I have zero idea who she picks and the only guys I really saw her interact with were FIR guy (Jordan? Jordon?), James Taylor (), Luke and a second with "Saint Nick". And honestly, I didn't really have much of an opinion, except the above on FIR guy.

Ayana wrote:She's been fine so far. I don't really have any complaints. Except for the fact that she's apparently close friends with Jake Pavelka...

close friends with Jake...

I always worry JoJo is a mix of Andi & Kaitlyn - self entitled princess like Andi, and no depth like Kait. I hope not, I really hope not.

So Coley, Nick S, Jake (?), Jonathan, Sal, Peter are gone, right?

peggy0221 wrote:What do you ladies think of JoJo as the lead so far?

I don't think JoJo has found her footing yet. I think she was really nervous. Most of the guys seemed unable to carry on a decent conversation (at least, I don't recall many). I didn't experience JoJo taking the lead in these situations. I loved her conversations with Ben last season. I don't recall many memorable moments with her tonight. I'm still hopeful though that she can become more natural in her interactions. She was very touchy-feely tonight, FWIW.

peggy0221 wrote:What do you ladies think of JoJo as the lead so far?

Hi Peggy! Happy Season 12 Everyone!   
I think JoJo was adorable. I'm pretty sure she was fairly nervous. I remember a past lead (sorry cannot remember who) saying that they aren't told what to do or what to say going into this, they are all on their own. Oh but seeing this episode emphasized to me, just how horribly Kaitlyn got burned on her Night 1. 

Litta123 wrote:

peggy0221 wrote:What do you ladies think of JoJo as the lead so far?

I don't think JoJo has found her footing yet. I think she was really nervous. Most of the guys seemed unable to carry on a decent conversation (at least, I don't recall many). I didn't experience JoJo taking the lead in these situations. I loved her conversations with Ben last season. I don't recall many memorable moments with her tonight. I'm still hopeful though that she can become more natural in her interactions. She was very touchy-feely tonight, FWIW.

I agree Litta, I think once she settles in a little more and is able to whittle the guys down a bit, she'll do fine. Yes she was very touchy!  I'm trying to remember but I think she was very physical with Ben as well. She might just be one of those people that express themselves through contact, but of course, the guys don't seem to mind. 
 
Speaking of her guys!  Wow, there were definitely more hotties than usual! I likey very much!  My favorite is, I forget his name, I'll have to go back and check but he looked a bit like Wells but way hotter! 

As for the rest, I don't have too much to say about them yet because I don't remember most of their names. Oh but I do think the amount they showed Jordan and his and Jo's connection, would make it too obvious for him to be the one she chooses in the end. And that guy narrating this episode, I think his name is Chad, is so mean and nasty to the other guys in his ITMs  that I hope he goes home soon (but of course he won't). Also I don't care much for his hair especially from the side or the back. 

And can I just get on my Canadian soapbox for a bit and say: what's with the embarrassing sloppy drunk Canadians they like to cast?  Please stop, this is getting old (and embarrassing)  Speaking of Drunk Canadian #2 (Shawn the Sex Therapist from Kaitlyn's season is #1), did you see how Jo called out his name when giving him the last rose? She sounded completely unimpressed and almost rude saying, "Daniel". It was an obvious producer pick  I hope his demise is quick! 

All in all this looks like it'll be a good season and I can't wait to hear everyone's point of view! I may have to pop into No Spoiler Sleuthing though as already cannot wait to see who's the lucky fella! 

SafronSahara wrote:Luke has next Bachelor written all over him.

I sure hope so, could handle seeing a lot more of him!

I could easily get rid of 2/3 of her guys...and focus on the other 1/3.

Surprised she's friends with Jake.  

I wonder how many episodes we'll have to deal with Chad?

Don't know why but I'm not into Jordan...I see him going far though. Right now my favs are Luke and Alex (I was surprised by how short he was)!

Luke has a great look. Very understated sexy. I also really liked Grant's look and intro, and he looks hot in the previews. A lot of airtime for Jordon, both in tonight's episode and in the previews.

I thought JoJo handled the first night very well, putting the guys at ease.

Chad, is he being paid to be the azz of the season? I mean really, who does that (previews) with cameras on you.

Yes Luke!! That's his name. I like him. He is totally my type in looks and demeaner. Um er, I meant when I was younger. Is he short? 

Grant is cute too but is he the one who parents his brothers? That wouldn't be fun. 

You know Chad is very, very good looking. I think he will change the flatness of the back of his hair after he sees himself on TV. You know you're right--who is that much of an a__ in front of the cameras? He prob has same producer that Olivia had! 

One more guy that sort of stuck out to me is the guy with the yellow tie. I can't find him in the photos though and can't remember why because I think he was quiet. I already need to re-watch .

Want to add that I realize I seem completely guy crazy!