Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

Long post coming up based on several thoughts, sorry guys ...

Jojo and Ben's FD was a classic F1 FD to me. The more romantic, isolated one that leaves lots of time to just be together in an intimate setting - eg the private island, beach or yacht of many F1 seasons past.

Then add in Ben acted more like she was the one IMO.  They both ran to each other, Ben included; he moaned on greeting her and said he missed her immediately,  Ben telling her he always knew they'd be at that point together, Ben saying he wanted to work through problems with her and wasn't afraid to say he loves her; Ben looking like he couldn't resist her or keep his hands off her; seriously, I could go on and on really. 

Luvstruck - what an awesome blog summary.  Thnks for that.  Many things I've read in his blog have surprised me because usually the blogs really build up and shout out to the F1 while explaining away and downplaying as much as allowed to, the F2 IMO. But you highlighted some of the things about Jojo that really stand out.

Last point, I've never seen the show include other contestants talking about how obvious the lead's connection is with a frontrunner (unless they were going to flame out like Britt or something). That's the weirdest part of the edit to me, why include it?  If viewers could already see an obvious connection with Lauren why add to that with the other girls commenting on it?  Usually they would try to hide that not reinforce it. Really strange.

Based on all that I'd think Jojo F1.  It just seems like there's no post show evidence to suggest it and several things that can point to him being with Lauren, so for that reason only I do believe the spoiler and I think Lauren is a fine girl and a great choice for him. I just preferred watching his relationship with Jojo.  My personal preference, probably most to do with really liking Jojo.

Overall, I think all 3 of them are too young to get married out of this and any of them will be just fine if this doesn't work out.

Mommyof1 wrote:

Maddy wrote:
lindsayliles I'd give them all roses ️️ #TheBachelor #bachelornation

Ben is closer to JoJo in this photo.  

Oh, and get this guy an iron.  He's a wrinkled mess!  

With the Handlers in the photo, the first thing that popped into my head was that it looked like a scene from UnREAL.

Rolly wrote:In looking back at the FS dates JoJo by far has the most romantic date. Releasing turtles is cool but not the most romantic. Take another look at the water falls, jumping together into the water and that sensual kiss with the waterfall in the back. Not to mention her total surprise when he tells her he loves her... such a genuine heartfelt reaction from both of them. Perfect date. JMO.

Agreed and they were in a secluded area...minus the cameramen and production team.

Some believe the blogs may be written/edited by others. In my opinion these sound very much like the Ben we have seen during the season. Staffers may edit out something but I don't believe they add their own thoughts. In my opinion the blogs reflect who the lead chooses by the way the lead supports them. Kaitlyn's blogs favored Shawn especially towards the end of the season and we saw it play out. It is just an interesting piece of the puzzle.....

Luvstruck wrote:Some believe the blogs may be written/edited by others. In my opinion these sound very much like the Ben we have seen during the season. Staffers may edit out something but I don't believe they add their own thoughts. In my opinion the blogs reflect who the lead chooses by the way the lead supports them. Kaitlyn's blogs favored Shawn especially towards the end of the season and we saw it play out. It is just an interesting piece of the puzzle.....

Thank you for your input because I haven't really paid much attention to those. However, I do remember Jillian and Ali really favoring Ed & Roberto in theirs.

What do you make of the post-show clues pointing to Lauren as F1? Those have me tipped in her favor more than anything else.
 I think there is always a plausible (but more unlikely) explanation for those clues, personally.

NCGalBecca wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

Maddy wrote:
lindsayliles I'd give them all roses ️️ #TheBachelor #bachelornation

Ben is closer to JoJo in this photo.  

Oh, and get this guy an iron.  He's a wrinkled mess!  

With the Handlers in the photo, the first thing that popped into my head was that it looked like a scene from UnREAL.

Is that a TV show? I've never heard of it.

Mommyof1 wrote:

Rolly wrote:In looking back at the FS dates JoJo by far has the most romantic date. Releasing turtles is cool but not the most romantic. Take another look at the water falls, jumping together into the water and that sensual kiss with the waterfall in the back. Not to mention her total surprise when he tells her he loves her... such a genuine heartfelt reaction from both of them. Perfect date. JMO.

Agreed and they were in a secluded area...minus the cameramen and production team.    

Not only were Ben & JoJo basically alone during the day but during the evening date they had a secluded moonlit dinner before fantasy suite. On Lauren's date night they went to a public place for dinner then were in a crowd listening to a local band so were not totally alone before fantasy suite which used to indicate final 2.

relaxing wrote:Long post coming up based on several thoughts, sorry guys ...

Jojo and Ben's FD was a classic F1 FD to me. The more romantic, isolated one that leaves lots of time to just be together in an intimate setting - eg the private island, beach or yacht of many F1 seasons past.

Then add in Ben acted more like she was the one IMO.  They both ran to each other, Ben included; he moaned on greeting her and said he missed her immediately,  Ben telling her he always knew they'd be at that point together, Ben saying he wanted to work through problems with her and wasn't afraid to say he loves her; Ben looking like he couldn't resist her or keep his hands off her; seriously, I could go on and on really. 

Luvstruck - what an awesome blog summary.  Thnks for that.  Many things I've read in his blog have surprised me because usually the blogs really build up and shout out to the F1 while explaining away and downplaying as much as allowed to, the F2 IMO. But you highlighted some of the things about Jojo that really stand out.

Last point, I've never seen the show include other contestants talking about how obvious the lead's connection is with a frontrunner (unless they were going to flame out like Britt or something). That's the weirdest part of the edit to me, why include it?  If viewers could already see an obvious connection with Lauren why add to that with the other girls commenting on it?  Usually they would try to hide that not reinforce it. Really strange.

Based on all that I'd think Jojo F1.  It just seems like there's no post show evidence to suggest it and several things that can point to him being with Lauren, so for that reason only I do believe the spoiler and I think Lauren is a fine girl and a great choice for him. I just preferred watching his relationship with Jojo.  My personal preference, probably most to do with really liking Jojo.

Overall, I think all 3 of them are too young to get married out of this and any of them will be just fine if this doesn't work out.

Actually, in Andi's season there was a deleted scene of when CH entered the suite in Belgium and while Andi was on a date with Josh, they were talking about how Josh is doing super well with Andi. But I guess it was deleted for a reason... I still love JoJo and I personally prefer Ben's relationship with her because it is more fun and easy going. I think he has to do too much to prove his worth with Lauren. As he said, he didn't think he was good enough and he was asking her to tell him what he did wrong. That can be frustrating always trying to measure up. But I guess Lauren allayed his fears. They are also a nice couple, but I just prefer JoJo. But regardless of the outcome, this has been a great season - one for the history books.

Is that a TV show? I've never heard of it.

It's a dramedy on Lifetime that mocks and reveals the trade secrets of shows like the Bachelor often in a very dark manner.

Mommyof1 wrote:

NCGalBecca wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

Ben is closer to JoJo in this photo.  

Oh, and get this guy an iron.  He's a wrinkled mess!  

With the Handlers in the photo, the first thing that popped into my head was that it looked like a scene from UnREAL.

Is that a TV show?  I've never heard of it.  

Actually I think Ben is just standing there. Jo Jo has moved in on him. And yes Unreal is a tv show that was on last summer maybe- it's a behind the scenes view of a dating reality show- I didn't like the story itself (too much drama) but it is an eye opening view of the Bachelor/Bachelorette franchise.

Jojo is definitely cuddling but follow Ben's arm/hand. It's resting on the handler/producer . It's not on Jojo. Not sure where Ben's arm is with Lauren. Her waist maybe ?

Luvstruck wrote:Some believe the blogs may be written/edited by others. In my opinion these sound very much like the Ben we have seen during the season. Staffers may edit out something but I don't believe they add their own thoughts. In my opinion the blogs reflect who the lead chooses by the way the lead supports them. Kaitlyn's blogs favored Shawn especially towards the end of the season and we saw it play out. It is just an interesting piece of the puzzle.....

Thank you so much for gathering all those blog passages about Jojo. You are right, they do sound like Ben. I think they tell the story that the show isn't telling. On his last blog, he goes on to elaborate on the fact that Jojo doesn't let herself fall easily and to have done that for him.. It meant a lot. Why would he bring attention to that and corner himself even further for when he dumps her. This whole situation reminds me so much of Brad's season prior to fridge gate. Emily's fans had only those blogs to go on. We need something gate .. Dog Gate maybe?!