Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

ForeverLove wrote:I just  found it interesting that they had to cancel Jojo's original HTD where she takes Ben around and use film for the fake Chad thing . I do think Ben didn't know . Did they want to ramp things up for Ben so he'd feel more?

ForeverLove wrote:Ben looked surprised by the events. If to hide Jojo as F1, funny not to let Ben on it . Funny too he would only cry with Bushnell's. So think that at least , can be taken off the list.

sophienette wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:Ben looked surprised by the events. If to hide Jojo as F1, funny not to let Ben on it . Funny too he would only cry with Bushnell's. So think that at least , can be taken off the list.

Well according to CH he cried because he was emotionally tired, nothing to do with Lolo! 

Mommyof1 wrote:Isn't this JoJo's thread?   Ben looked confused and slightly angry when JoJo told him about Chad.  He was blinking quite rapidly.  No?  Just me?  

Mommyof1 wrote:Isn't this JoJo's thread?   Ben looked confused and slightly angry when JoJo told him about Chad.  He was blinking quite rapidly.  No?  Just me?  

ForeverLove wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:From what I've seen, and to most viewers who have commented on social media IMO, it's been 1. Lauren and 2. JoJo since the beginning pretty much. JoJo got a group date rose before, got special time on top of the building with the beautiful view, got a 1-on-1 date that was so special to him that he apparently talked all about it to Ali and her fiancé according to her blog at Jade and Tanner's wedding, etc. I think his F2 were his true F2.

True. Ben said he tried to compartmentalize. Take each relationship for what it is . The thing I find interesting is, every time he speaks of Jojo, it's the same old thing. He can define it. She's the one I can be myself with. Like he's already got a definition for her and figured out what it is about her. Everytime thus far , when he pulls out the Jojo box, that's what's in it. I do think since he labeled her passionate to Ellen, it's going to heat up. We see the previews . Her passion will be unleashed , to add dramatic tone to it. But in the end, when he brings out the Jojo box from his compartment , what will stand out ? If it's the I can be myself around her, it might not be enough. Because while that's a building block to a relationship , there are intangibles to love that you can't define . You don't always know why you feel it but you do. Ben has categorized Jojo imo, he can pinpoint what it is about her that he loves and cares for. It's cerebral. So I think it boils down to following his head or his heart. Jojo is one sexy lady so I guess Ben's other head will need to decide too.

sde1041 wrote:Excerpt of Ben's blog regarding Jojo' HTD:
"Watching it back, I think you can see that written all over my face when she is first talking to me. After talking to JoJo that day I know now that it was never even a consideration in her mind, but for someone who has a fear of being unlovable, I just thought that this was the beginning of the end and I was crushed.

So when she said that she was happy to put an end to her and Chad, it was an instant relief and I was able to breathe again. JoJo had really come to mean so much to me that the idea of her walking away in that moment really terrified me. "


In bolded, pretty strong words... The edited episode didn't really show all these strong feelings. Are they toning them down? If so, why?

Also, another interesting excerpt:

" I think going into those conversations I was trying to be so careful to be absolutely honest and not make any promises that I wasn't ready to make yet that I think I held back a little bit too much and maybe gave them their the wrong impression. They thought that my answers were too careful I think, and I can see how they may have come off that way, but that's not what I meant by it at all.

Watching the show now, I hope they can see how incredibly serious I was about JoJo and that I just wasn't ready or in any position to tell them that I was definitely going to propose to their sister. If I was holding back on my answers or being too political that was the only reason why. "

So he was holding back...Interesting IMO.

julychild wrote:

ForeverLove wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:From what I've seen, and to most viewers who have commented on social media IMO, it's been 1. Lauren and 2. JoJo since the beginning pretty much. JoJo got a group date rose before, got special time on top of the building with the beautiful view, got a 1-on-1 date that was so special to him that he apparently talked all about it to Ali and her fiancé according to her blog at Jade and Tanner's wedding, etc. I think his F2 were his true F2.

True. Ben said he tried to compartmentalize. Take each relationship for what it is . The thing I find interesting is, every time he speaks of Jojo, it's the same old thing. He can define it. She's the one I can be myself with. Like he's already got a definition for her and figured out what it is about her. Everytime thus far , when he pulls out the Jojo box, that's what's in it. I do think since he labeled her passionate to Ellen, it's going to heat up. We see the previews . Her passion will be unleashed , to add dramatic tone to it. But in the end, when he brings out the Jojo box from his compartment , what will stand out ? If it's the I can be myself around her, it might not be enough. Because while that's a building block to a relationship , there are intangibles to love that you can't define . You don't always know why you feel it but you do. Ben has categorized Jojo imo, he can pinpoint what it is about her that he loves and cares for. It's cerebral. So I think it boils down to following his head or his heart. Jojo is one sexy lady so I guess Ben's other head will need to decide too.

On more thing.... being able to be yourself around someone is not to be taken lightly. Thats a HUGE sign of compatibility. I know most people like to say they can't define what they love about someone, but you have to know what you love and be able to name it. Feelings come and go, and when those times come around where you don't like the person you love, it's a reminder of why you love them that keeps you going. Not the feelings. Hahaha, this sounds like a case for Jojo but it's really how I feel generally.