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The Bachelorette may have ended with a bang—well for some, at least—what with Ashley Hebert finally giving the last proverbial rose to J.P. Rosenbaum, despite some serious criticism from her heavily tattooed sister, Chrystie. But does sis know best? Will the engaged couple indeed face the thorn of the Bachelor and Bachelorette break-up curse, only to be destined for second (and third, for Ashley!) fiddle fame on Bachelor Pad?

No, not at all, at least according to body language expert Dr. Lillian Glass who is offering her own brash and outspoken, albeit much more positive, opinion of Hebert and Rosenbaum and their future together.

Like millions of other infatuated fans, Glass watched ABC's After The Final Rose special and took specific note of the non-verbal communication cues between Ashley Hebert and J.P. Rosenbaum—mannerisms that probably would go undetected by the average viewer.

"When Ashley put her head on J.P.'s shoulder, his cheeks were raised, his eyes squenched up—it is absolutely the real deal and such a sweet, sweet couple," the good doctor reported. "Ashley looks into his eyes; she is confident with him. When a woman feels love they feel confident, and there's a posture you see."

Still, though, there's that curse that's compromised five of the seven Bachelorette matches, with only Trista Rehn and Ryan Sutter and Ali Fedotowsky and Roberto Martinez still forging on together. Nonsense, says Dr. Glass, "It's real. J.P. is taken with Ashley... J.P. turns red when she looks at him. He blushes and they are always holding hands."

Besides singing the praise of Ashley Hebert and J.P. Rosenbaum's relationship, Dr. Lillian Glass has also recently put her expert body language readings to work with another equally buzzed-about pair: Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries. The report was no less glowing for this Hollywood couple who will be tying the knot in a few short weeks.

Like Ashley and J.P., Kim and Kris have been in the spotlight with their whirlwind romance and quickie engagement. Plus, they've too faced their fair share of criticism from family, friends, and media. Love conquers all though, right?

Speaking on a press call, 27-year-old Ashley Hebert says she and fiance J.P. Rosenbaum have no intention to be back on small screen again.

Having said that they just want a humble, boring life together, Ashley Hebert and J.P. Rosenbaum say no to TV marriage. The pair, who got engaged in the season finale of "The Bachelorette", have stated that they have no intention to follow in the footsteps of other reality show couples and tie the knot on the small screen.

"I don't think you'll be seeing us on TV unless you Tivoed those episodes," dentist student Ashley said during a press call on Tuesday afternoon, August 2. Supporting his fiancee's statement, J.P. added, "We talk about it in jest sometimes, but no real thought has gone into it."

When appearing on "Jimmy Kimmel Live!", Ashley also expressed hesitation to take part in other reality shows like fellow "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette" contestants. "At this point, I feel like with everything that's happened, I'm so emotionally drained, the only thing I want to do is be in New York with him, and go for coffee in the morning, and just get back to that normal life," she reasoned.

As for their wedding which is planned to take place in 2012, they apparently have not prepared much for it. "We haven't given any serious thought to [the wedding]," J.P. admitted during the press call, before adding "We're not going to wait five years to get married, but we're going to take it one step at a time."

For now, Ashley and J.P. are focusing on their busy schedule, including Ashley's plan to complete her dental school and move to New York to live with the construction manager in a month. "I have no hesitation about moving in. I think we're ready for that. ... He cleaned out a closet for me. How sweet is that?" Ashley gushed.

"Bachelorette" Ashley Hebert chose J.P. Rosenbaum for her man during the season finale Monday night (Aug. 1). The happy couple spoke with the press Tuesday about their experience on and off the show.

Of the experience on the show, Ashley says, "The show really brought us together. We confided in each other, we learned how to communicate, we dealt with jealousy, insecurity. We've been engaged for two months, but it feels like we've been together for years."

"We really feel like the hardest part is past. But we're just looking forward to starting our lives together," adds J.P.

When the subject of Ben comes up, Ashley admits to maybe not handling his proposal the best possible way.

"I know the whole thing is kind of a blur. Obviously going into it the last thing I wanted to do was hurt Ben. I remember trying to talk to him and feeling like I wasn't sure what to say and he got down on one knee and I had to pull him up," says Ashley. "It really was a whirlwind and it's hard to understand if you're not there in the moment, with all eyes on you and all the cameras on you. It's really hard for people to understand."

But she does say she knew pretty early on that J.P. was the guy for her and J.P. felt pretty sure of himself as well.

"My heart was pulling me in that direction for a long time," says Ashley. She also tells us about how she had told J.P. she loved him before the show was over.

"When you are about somebody so much, all you want to do is be honest with them and tell them how you feel. I was in a moment where I felt like I needed to let him know how I was feeling."

"It wasn't as blatantly obvious as my 'I'm madly in love with you,'" adds J.P. "It was much, much more subtle than that. It put my head in the right place ... I don't want to sound cocky at all, but I was confident after our Hong Kong date that I would be the last guy standing. I knew what Ashley and I had was special and there was no way she could have what she and I had with anybody else. I felt it for weeks."

As for all the other guys from the show, both Ashley and J.P. hope they can stay friends with many of them.

"It became a small fraternity. I'll definitely stay in touch with a bunch of them," says J.P. "I would say Mickey and William and Ames, there's a bunch of guys I'm going to pick up the phone and call."

"I'm open to being friends and staying in touch with all the guys," Ashley adds. "One thing I said in the beginning and I still stand by is I had such a respectable group of guys. I'm hoping we can all be friends after this."

This season of "The Bachelorette" may have finally come to a close, but Ashley and JP's publicity tour has just begun.

Only hours after the finale aired Monday night, the newly engaged couple did the media rounds in New York City, where Ashley is planning to join her fiance in a month after she finishes studying dentistry at the University of Pennsylvania. After hitting a slew of morning talk shows, the couple got on a conference call with a handful of journalists to talk about their experience on the show and plans for the future.

In between all the mushy talk, a few interesting tidbits did emerge: Ashley said things between her and her evil sister -- who we likened to Kat Von D -- are now swell. (Sure.) Ashley said she only let Ben get down on his knee and propose because the moment was "a blur." (Or the producers urged you to milk the drama?) And JP has not, apparently, been calling Ashley by her favorite and totally repulsive pet name, "Cupcake," as much as she would like. (They're totally doomed.)

A condensed and edited version of the transcript follows.

At what point after your confrontation with your sister did you straighten things out?

Ashley: You know, we actually never resolved it in Fiji. She left and it was still unresolved. Then I think it was when we got home that we talked about it a little bit, but it went unresolved for a while until she started watching the show air, and then she called me up and said, “I am so sorry. I completely see it now. I was too quick to judge." So it took a little while that she came around.

Was there ever a moment where what she said really caused you to reconsider picking JP?

Ashley: To be honest, I knew that I would follow my own gut and I would not let anyone else influence me, and that is what I loved about this whole journey, is I have got to trust myself. Now, the truth is, I knew my sister was being tough, and I knew that she was so stubborn that she would never take it back even if she had to change her heart. I knew that she would grow to love him. And once she saw us together, I had no doubt that she would see what I feel, and things would be all right and things would be great, and actually they are. They are close now, and they actually joke about it. So, all is well.

Were you hurt when she said she thought you were more into Brad than JP?

Ashley: OK, so I knew she was completely, like, off with her judgment and, you know, when she said that she thought I was more into Brad, I thought, “OK, I am not going to listen to anything she says because what I feel for him is completely different from what I felt for Brad.” So, at that point, she lost me.

JP, did you reconsider proposing after the showdown with Chrystie?

JP: Nothing that happened between me and her sister had any influence on my decision to propose. I always knew that I was going to propose, I guess. Pretty much two to three weeks prior I knew it was going to happen, so I was just afraid that her sister's comments and opinions would influence the way she felt about me, but I was hoping that she would trust her gut, trust her heart and not really listen to her sister, and it turned out all right.
Ashley, if JP had only told you he loved you and didn’t propose, what would you have done?

Ashley: Oh! That is an easy question. I mean, I always said that if I left with somebody that I love, it wouldn't matter if I was engaged or not. I mean, obviously going into it — you go through so much that you hope to be at a point where you feel comfortable enough to be engaged. But with JP, I cared about him so much that if he was not ready for that, I was prepared to just leave with him in a relationship.

Why did you let Ben get down on his knee and propose?

Ashley: Well, I can tell you, for me, I know the whole thing is kind of a blur obviously going into it. The last thing I wanted to do is hurt Ben, being the great guy that he is. So, when he was — I mean, it is a blur to me, but I remember, you know, trying to talk to him and then feeling like I was not sure what to say, and then he got down on one knee and it was just — I had to pull him up. It really was a whirlwind, and I think it is really hard to understand my fear there in that moment with all eyes on you and cameras on you.

JP, how would you rate your confidence going into the final rose ceremony?

JP: I was confident that — and I don't want to sound cocky at all — but I was confident after our Hong Kong date that I would be the last guy standing. I knew that what Ashley and I had was special and that there was really no way she could have with anybody else what the two of us had together.

If you had been in Ben’s position, how do you think you would have reacted?

JP: To be honest, I never really thought of that hypothetical situation because I felt so strongly that she was going to say yes for a while that I really never put myself in that mind set. I can understand Ben getting upset by it. I mean, right now if Ashley were to walk away from me, I would be devastated. So if Ben felt even a fraction of what I feel, I can understand him being hurt and sad.

Ashley, JP is Jewish and you’re not. Are you excited to learn about his faith?

Ashley: At first, I was nervous that his family would not be accepting me, but obviously that is not the case. ... The truth is I have been surrounded by a few — like three of my closest friends are Jewish, so I know a lot about it and I know a lot about the religion and the culture.

Would you raise your kids Jewish?

Ashley: I think that I am open to whatever JP wants to do, if he wants to raise our kids that way — Jewish — yes, actually, whatever you want, because I am very open and I do not — I am not really set on anything, so whatever makes him happy makes me happy.

JP: And religion was never really a factor for me at all. I'm in love, so I'm in love and you can't control it, and I know my family is going to love whoever I love, so it was never an issue when we talked about including holidays and Christmas with the family and Passover with my family, and it hasn't been a stumbling block at all.

How are you going to avoid the pitfalls past couples on the show have encountered?

Ashley: All I can tell you is that this show really brought us together. It built a really good relationship, I think. We confided in each other, we learned how to communicate, you know. We dealt with jealousy, we dealt with insecurity, we dealt with so many things early on. We built this great foundation, and now we are out here in the real world. We have been engaged for two months, but I feel like we have been together for years.

Do either of you have plans to do more television, like “Dancing With the Stars”?

Ashley: I don’t think you’ll be seeing us on TV unless you TiVo-ed those episodes [of “The Bachelorette”].

JP, are you ready for Ashley’s dog to move in?

JP: I always knew that it was a package deal with Ashley, so I am welcoming Boo’s arrival.

Ashley: He is already practicing his dog voice.

JP: That is not happening.

And JP, have you been calling Ashley “Cupcake”?

JP: Occasionally. Not as frequently as she would like.

Ashley: Oh, he will.

Roslyn's J.P. Rosenbaum, who successfully proposed to Ashley Hebert on Monday's finale of "The Bachelorette," plans to stay in his Manhattan apartment until his fiancé finishes dental school in September. Then, he says, "We'll look for a new place and move in together."
The two already had something of a honeymoon in Fiji, where the finale was taped. "After we were done [shooting] and got engaged, we spent four additional nights there together," Hebert, 26, said Tuesday in a Newsday interview with the lovebirds.
Rosenbaum, 34, who edged out Sonoma, Calif., winemaker Ben Flajnik for Hebert's hand, says going on the show had been out of character for him. But when a friend signed him up to audition, he went with it.

"I felt like I was in a rut and needed a change in my life," he says. "A close friend of mine nominated me online and then told me after she did it. I never thought anything would come of it." Yet, after an interview in New York and then being flown out to California for the final casting, "I got a call two weeks later saying I was going to be on the show."

The 1995 Herricks High School graduate was born in Manhattan but moved to Roslyn with his parents, Ilene and Peter Rosenbaum, when he was about a year old. He attended the University of Michigan, and majored in communication "kind of by default. I didn't know what I wanted to do after college and communication left it open."

After working briefly as a commercial real estate broker, he became an Internet advertising salesman. When the dot-com bubble burst, he backpacked in Australia for two months, still undecided on a career.
Fortunately, his brother Roy, who works in real estate financing, and their father, a former Columbia University linguistics professor and later a financial adviser, "were doing some real estate deals in Brooklyn, and they needed a guy on the construction site they could trust." Rosenbaum worked for his family during the day, while at night earning a master's degree in construction management at New York University's Schack Institute of Real Estate.

And though he declined to name the company for which he works, he's grateful that his bosses gave him the roughly 10 weeks off he needed to be on the show.

"Theoretically," he says, "they're responsible for me falling in love!"