Becca Tilly - Bachelor 20 - #3 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Duke702 wrote:

FLChica wrote:

DebutAlbum wrote:Becca and Ashley I were hanging out with Taylor Lautner, per her SC.

Does this mean a sequel to Sharkboy and Lavagirl is in the works?

It was a group thing though, pretty sure she's taller than him

If you google Taylor Lautner a report from Korea Portal (English Edition) comes up dated January 11 saying he was spotted out partying with Kristen Stewart and a group of friends but that he left with a blonde beauty not Kristen. Becca is blonde so maybe it was her. One time is not dating so it will be interesting if they hang out together anymore.

Luvstruck wrote:

Duke702 wrote:

FLChica wrote:

Does this mean a sequel to Sharkboy and Lavagirl is in the works?

It was a group thing though, pretty sure she's taller than him

If you google Taylor Lautner a report from Korea Portal (English Edition) comes up dated January 11 saying he was spotted out partying with Kristen Stewart and a group of friends but that he left with a blonde beauty not Kristen. Becca is blonde so maybe it was her. One time is not dating so it will be interesting if they hang out together anymore.

I'm pretty sure that the girl on the 11th wasn't Becca.

We don't "know" that the final HTD spot was between Becca and Caila. For all we know, Ben giving Amanda the GDR was him deciding to keep her and not Becca.

mindless wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Ben said Becca was "cute" when he described her in an itm. Cute. A lot of times that's what people say when they feel NOTHING physically with another person, but they're trying to be nice. At this point, already, he's said to her faces (JoJo) and in an itm (Lauren B), that he's attracted to them. That's more on the end of finding one physically appealing (sexy, alluring.) This is the obvious difference, other than the fact that it just didn't/doesn't seem like Ben cared for Becca in a romantic sense.

He said "incredibly cute", which I thought stood out in a positive way, since it wasn't one of his usual platitudes ("beautiful" etc.). Seemed specific to Becca as did the "easy to be around". That's how Becca is, she seems to put people at ease, and their conversation flowed pretty effortlessly unlike his conversation with Caila for example. Whether that's just because Ben had so many questions about her returning, I don't know, but he did seem very interested in what she had to say. I was expecting far less interest, since he didn't seem particularly happy to see her last week, so I was positively surprised. I don't think the lack of kissing means much considering she was the first one he talked to on that group date and hadn't kissed anyone at that point. We don't know how much time and how many drinks later the kissing bonanza started. I would've been shocked if the first person he kissed was the virgin who made Chris wait until episode 6. We've also seen them kiss a lot on previews, so looks like they'll make up for lost time soon enough.

Like I said, she's clearly not up there with Lauren and JoJo (I'm ignoring Olivia, because she's so aggressive) and maybe even Amanda, but I saw more connection between Becca and Ben and Caila and Ben, so it makes sense to me now that the last HTD was between those two. Yes, Caila got a second 1-on-1, but that's not surprising considering she got the first. And if they were considering her for the next lead then it makes sense they wanted to showcase her. I just don't think Becca lasted that long because the producers wanted her to, not anymore. I think it really was between her and Caila, and I'm not sure Caila necessarily won because of a stronger connection. If this week's date is any indication, she was the afterthought like RS indicated.

I assumed a couple of things from this discussion with Becca:

- That at some point after she went in to let Ben know she was going to be on his season at the M&G and seeing his obvious dissatisfaction that she was there (she wouldn't have been able to miss it), she talked to a producer(s) about it.
- A detailed discussion between Ben and a producer(s) took place sometime after M&G and they told him they wanted her there and were able to convince him to "work with it". They likely asked him to have a conversation with her at the cocktail party to smooth over her feelings of "concern that he doesn't want her there". Or equally as likely because this is considerate Ben here, when he consented to "work with them", he thought he should make her feel more at ease and comfortable about being there.

I just can't ignore his expression when seeing her on night one. Yes it was a surprise but if someone that appealed to him as a future partner walked in exactly as she did and surprised him, his look of surprise would've been one with a smile on his face.

What's also nagging at me and I cannot ignore is the fact that his friends Tanner, Jade, JJ, Clint, Nick, Jared (anyone else?) are showing obvious dislike for Becca and/or the fact that she went on his season. Ben himself gave a slightly uneasy, for lack of a better word, expression on the live AfterShow when CH was talking about the school date and the geography test and says "...and the girls are a little embarrassed especially JoJo and Becca..." when he says Becca's name, Ben's eyes narrowed slightly and his mouth twitched (cannot think of a better word here). This is all a lot of negative attention toward Becca which leads me to believe that either the rumour is true and Ben really did tell her not to come on his season and his friends knew this or something happened because of her or with her during filming that bothered Ben enough that he told his friends.

Would someone please be able to watch the part in the AfterShow I'm referring to and tell me if they see what I mean about Ben's reaction to her name? It's not far in after Ben comes on the set and his expression is less than two seconds. Please and thank you!

I also noticed that it seems that Ben narrowed his eyes when Becca's name was mentioned, rhondam. Chris (Cupcake) also said something about Becca not being a good match for Ben.

rhondam wrote:

mindless wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Ben said Becca was "cute" when he described her in an itm. Cute. A lot of times that's what people say when they feel NOTHING physically with another person, but they're trying to be nice. At this point, already, he's said to her faces (JoJo) and in an itm (Lauren B), that he's attracted to them. That's more on the end of finding one physically appealing (sexy, alluring.) This is the obvious difference, other than the fact that it just didn't/doesn't seem like Ben cared for Becca in a romantic sense.

He said "incredibly cute", which I thought stood out in a positive way, since it wasn't one of his usual platitudes ("beautiful" etc.). Seemed specific to Becca as did the "easy to be around". That's how Becca is, she seems to put people at ease, and their conversation flowed pretty effortlessly unlike his conversation with Caila for example. Whether that's just because Ben had so many questions about her returning, I don't know, but he did seem very interested in what she had to say. I was expecting far less interest, since he didn't seem particularly happy to see her last week, so I was positively surprised. I don't think the lack of kissing means much considering she was the first one he talked to on that group date and hadn't kissed anyone at that point. We don't know how much time and how many drinks later the kissing bonanza started. I would've been shocked if the first person he kissed was the virgin who made Chris wait until episode 6. We've also seen them kiss a lot on previews, so looks like they'll make up for lost time soon enough.

Like I said, she's clearly not up there with Lauren and JoJo (I'm ignoring Olivia, because she's so aggressive) and maybe even Amanda, but I saw more connection between Becca and Ben and Caila and Ben, so it makes sense to me now that the last HTD was between those two. Yes, Caila got a second 1-on-1, but that's not surprising considering she got the first. And if they were considering her for the next lead then it makes sense they wanted to showcase her. I just don't think Becca lasted that long because the producers wanted her to, not anymore. I think it really was between her and Caila, and I'm not sure Caila necessarily won because of a stronger connection. If this week's date is any indication, she was the afterthought like RS indicated.

I assumed a couple of things from this discussion with Becca:

- That at some point after she went in to let Ben know she was going to be on his season at the M&G and seeing his obvious dissatisfaction that she was there (she wouldn't have been able to miss it), she talked to a producer(s) about it.
- A detailed discussion between Ben and a producer(s) took place sometime after M&G and they told him they wanted her there and were able to convince him to "work with it". They likely asked him to have a conversation with her at the cocktail party to smooth over her feelings of "concern that he doesn't want her there". Or equally as likely because this is considerate Ben here, when he consented to "work with them", he thought he should make her feel more at ease and comfortable about being there.

I just can't ignore his expression when seeing her on night one. Yes it was a surprise but if someone that appealed to him as a future partner walked in exactly as she did and surprised him, his look of surprise would've been one with a smile on his face.

What's also nagging at me and I cannot ignore is the fact that his friends Tanner, Jade, JJ, Clint, Nick, Jared (anyone else?) are showing obvious dislike for Becca and/or the fact that she went on his season. Ben himself gave a slightly uneasy, for lack of a better word, expression on the live AfterShow when CH was talking about the school date and the geography test and says "...and the girls are a little embarrassed especially JoJo and Becca..." when he says Becca's name, Ben's eyes narrowed slightly and his mouth twitched (cannot think of a better word here). This is all a lot of negative attention toward Becca which leads me to believe that either the rumour is true and Ben really did tell her not to come on his season and his friends knew this or something happened because of her or with her during filming that bothered Ben enough that he told his friends.

Would someone please be able to watch the part in the AfterShow I'm referring to and tell me if they see what I mean about Ben's reaction to her name? It's not far in after Ben comes on the set and his expression is less than two seconds. Please and thank you!

What have Tanner and Jade done to show dislike for Becca?

I'm not sure about Jade but Tanner liked one of JJ's negative tweets against her.

albean99 wrote:I also noticed that it seems that Ben narrowed his eyes when Becca's name was mentioned, rhondam. Chris (Cupcake) also said something about Becca not being a good match for Ben.

That's right Cupcake did say something like Becca wouldn't get Ben's sense of humor.  It was surprising that Cupcake would say anything.  Now I am wondering if Kaitlyn's guys were talking among themselves about the girls that have been on previous shows and/or they are aware of something we may not know (other than her standing-up Jared).

eversotrue wrote:Do Ashley and Becca have REAL jobs anymore??

:shocked!: you mean that simply being a reality tv "star" (d-list at that), showing up at as many events as you possibly can, oversharing on SM (all forms) and endlessly shilling products isn't a real job?    I think many missed the memo that they should resume a normal life and job after going on the show!

I hope as the season plays out or after one of them will spill why they don't seem very fond of Becca.  Because it definitely seems as if something happened to cause some dislike or at least not buying that her intentions are total genuine and real towards being there only for Ben.  Not that I blame them there... Ben might have been a reason (and a really good one at that   ), but I don't think it was the only reason for her return.  JMO as always!

I think something happened, or should I say didn't happen, with Jared, word got around, Jared's friends were feeling sorry for him, then they all read RS's BS opinions and were like "I knew she wasn't worthy of our Jared!". Clearly they won't think she's worthy of Ben either, since he's also their friend. This is what happens when you dip your toe in the Bachelor pool with some vocal and uncensored members.

At least Ashley I. doesn't hold anything against her despite being friends with Jared too. The guys don't know Becca personally, so it's easier for them to believe the worst I guess.

Perhaps they have a good reason for being suspicious of Becca's intentions? It's pretty mild in any case imo.

IMO, but it's hard to know if Kaitlyn's guys don't like Becca because 1) the Jared stuff is true; 2) Ben said something about her to them; or 3) someone or all have had contact with her through "Bachelor Nation" stuff and don't like her from that. Unless one of them flat-out says something specific, it's just speculation at this point.

That said, I didn't particularly like Becca on Chris's season, haven't liked what I've seen of her on social media, and don't think she's all that interesting on Ben's season yet. So obviously, my opinion comes with a massing heap of salt .