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Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:07 am

Has anyone noticed that Mikhel is hiding roughly 100 people that he is following on his Instagram. Kevin W's is spot on with his count. Wondering if he has a lot of family and friends he is hiding or a lot of girls if he is F2 and in prep for the next Bach.

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Post by Just Looking Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:26 am

Bobette wrote:
djogbenyuie wrote:
Fifty wrote:I agree with everything everyone has said on this thread. I think there was a shift after Ben H's season where we saw the F2 on par with the F1 in likability stakes and a move to make the F2 and not the F3 as the next bachelorette/bachelor. I fear that the F2 getting the "nicer" edit than the F1 in some cases, is going to hurt viewership as we have seen in Australia with plummeting ratings for the bachelorette.  

If their intention is to grab the hearts of viewers, they are in fact doing that, just with the wrong person.  They will need to swiftly get back on the love bandwagon before the franchise systemically implodes on itself.  Promoting the F1 and their love story with the lead will be a start.   The fact of the matter is, if you compare the edit of Mikhel and Kevin,  Mikhel is being seen as the all round nice guy with an accepting family in comparison to Kevin who has been seen as overtly jealous, insecure, hanging with the "villain" with a snarky mother to boot. As well as the fact they had an argument on camera and Jas saying " i feel that he is treating this as a game".   It doesn't translate well for a lot of viewers and the producers may need to start bracing themselves for the backlash that will ensue when Kevin is picked. This isn't even mentioning the official SM pages highlighting and the heavy promotion of the F2 & sometimes F3 over the F1.  Locking them into the subconscious and hearts of fans as the winner. Is it right that there is backlash from viewers towards the Lead in these cases? No, as the Lead will inevitably pick who they have fallen in love with. However when you misdirect the viewer into seeing only the good characteristics of the F2 and in some cases a greater love story with the F2 whilst hiding the real one with the F1, you can wholeheartedly understand why the audience is so disappointed with the outcome.  And giving the F1 redemption at HTD by getting them to say I love you, as has been the case in the last few seasons internationally, to me doesn't cut it.  Its no where near enough traction for the audience to bring them up to speed to a love story that has been missing and character flaws that are being shown at every turn.  I think the producers need to go back to the original concept and wake up IMO or viewers may not be around to see anymore final roses handed out.

Amazing post. I agree 100%
Because of Richie's season, i've been way less invested in Georgia's season. I was too scared to root for the wrong person looool.
I remember Ali's season where the FIR was also the F1 and we still see the love story and it was still fun to watch even for those rooting for other contestants.

Yes.  Yes.  Yes.  I agree All of the above.  

In addition to the frustrating concealment/misdirection element, another thing I am seeing more and more of is a sense of over-promotion of F2 or F3, presumably with the goal of setting them up as the next Bachelor/Bachelorette.  

That's another reason I think Kevin is most likely F1 - they've shown too many of his 'flaws' with the jealousy and the (putting it politely) 'overprotective' mother for him to be the next Bach.  IMO he's been portrayed as a good match for Jasmine, but not 'prime dating material' in general, if you get my drift.

Whereas Mikhel and Mike have had superb edits IMO, barely a chink in the armour of either guy and I think viewers would be happy for either to be Lead in the next series.  Someone suggested upthread that TPTB are using SM to gauge which of the two would be more popular and I think that's spot on.

It's like TPTB are always thinking one step/season ahead, as if this Bachette is doubling as a really long pre-season ad for the next Bachelor!  IMO they need to bring it back to basics and focus more on the love story in the current show.

If we compare Georgia's season, Matty's family was overprotective etc whereas Lee's was warm and friendly.

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2016 8:54 am

Sneak peek tweet by Jasmine

https://mobile.twitter.com/jazlor1/status/793868017985728512

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Post by Bobette Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:01 am

Fifty wrote:Sneak peek tweet by Jasmine

https://mobile.twitter.com/jazlor1/status/793868017985728512

That is the most masculine crying pose I've ever seen Hugesmile
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Post by djogbenyuie Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:05 am

Bobette wrote:
Fifty wrote:Sneak peek tweet by Jasmine

https://mobile.twitter.com/jazlor1/status/793868017985728512

That is the most masculine crying pose I've ever seen Hugesmile


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Post by iamreal2u Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:17 am

Bobette wrote:
Fifty wrote:Sneak peek tweet by Jasmine

https://mobile.twitter.com/jazlor1/status/793868017985728512

That is the most masculine crying pose I've ever seen Hugesmile
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:27 am

cantstopl
iamreal2u wrote:
Bobette wrote:
Fifty wrote:Sneak peek tweet by Jasmine

https://mobile.twitter.com/jazlor1/status/793868017985728512

That is the most masculine crying pose I've ever seen Hugesmile
:funnypost:
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Post by richmondrose Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:48 pm

There was an extended preview shown between the end of episode 7 and the beginning of the AfterShow. I wonder when they will show it again. Has anyone seen it on youtube?
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Post by albean99 Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:40 pm

@richmondrose I haven't seen it at all so wish it was out there.

@djogbenyuie I saw that too and thought the alternative was that his beard is approved for work.

I'm very curious to see if the edit shifts in the next episode. I'm still not sure about the point of highlighting Mikhel stressing out about possibly being heartbroken. Maybe it sets him up better for being TB? There are people right now who are picking him over Kevin but not sure if it's because they really think that or if it's because of Kevin's edit.





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Post by djogbenyuie Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:53 pm

albean99 wrote:@richmondrose I haven't seen it at all so wish it was out there.

@djogbenyuie I saw that too and thought the alternative was that his beard is approved for work.

I'm very curious to see if the edit shifts in the next episode. I'm still not sure about the point of highlighting Mikhel stressing out about possibly being heartbroken. Maybe it sets him up better for being TB? There are people right now who are picking him over Kevin but not sure if it's because they really think that or if it's because of Kevin's edit.




It might be for work indeed. But I'm sure most people would assume it's Jas anyway laugh out loud

I think there are people rooting for Mikhel from the beginning, there are Mike's fans who are backing up Mikhel now that Mike has been eliminated and there are some KW fans that have been put off by his HTD so...different reasons but nothing that says they don't believe in KW and Jas connection.
I think KW and Jas connection is quite obvious for everyone. Especially after she chose him despite the "negative stuff" they have shown us.

This board is so quite today. I really feel like we lived the finale last tuesday.
I wish we have more preview to sleuth and just break down the final dates and MTP and all.

ETA: Regarding Mikhel stress, I do believe it is part of him being set up for heartbreak. I believe it will raise questions for both Jas and him and that her choice justification will come down to this. Not just the typical i love someone more. I feel like in Jas case, all of her real connections have been eliminated with such good reasons that it can't be any other way for the F2.


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Post by Idlemess Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:16 pm

Mikhel debut on the show started off favorably with special music during his limo exit and he had a video intro highlight. He's been front and center with the physical chemistry for such a "shy and unsure" individual. He has received the rose call early so he's not hidden at all; not even close when the show and social media and other contestants are saying he's the one.... also, his F2 positioning via screen caps of previews was provided.  Mikhel has been very polarized versus KW.

SO, he is most likely the one F1 based on what I just said.

But I can't shake my gut feeling about the other guy... something just feel very real and raw, very raw between them. The relationship has not been flowery and magical. It has been open, ordinary, and organic.


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Post by Idlemess Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:29 pm

@djogbenyuie I think it's about his work as well but who knows about those pesky double entendre laugh out loud when the finale is near


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