The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - Social Media - Vids - Media - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

I'm sure there has been more than enough sex that happens during the FD's (overnights) but that's not the main purpose for them  IMO. I look at them for romance but most importantly for time alone without the camera's. They give you the impression that sex is an accepted part of the night but it shouldn't be. Nobody forces them to be sexual, it's a choice they make. Ben can set the boundaries for what the night entails. JMO

If the lead knows who he wants to pick in the end, then he also knows that he probably SHOULDN'T sleep with the other 2. But as in real life, we sometimes end up doing a lot of things that we know we shouldn't.

I highly doubt Ben will sleep with any of the girls but that is just IMO.

Rolly wrote:I just don't think Ben is going to muck this up by having sex with all of these woman. I have thought all along Ben would spend time with them over night but not "do it". JMO. And if he really is falling for one of these girls being sexual with the other two just complicates the situation. If I were his F1 it would be a big problem.

Take a cue from Art and Mattie. Have it mean something.JMO.

I'm just quoting this last post but it may also apply to a lot of opinions before and after.... I wasn't specifically talking about Ben and whether he will or whether he won't, what grosses me out is this show's whole premise of the fantasy suites with the emphasis being the plural! For some reason, I hadn't really considered this to the full extent in the past but now, thinking about it, it really bothers me that the possibility of a lead (of any season/any gender) likes someone enough to "propose" (begin a relationship with) this same someone but yet, could potentially have sex with one or two others and that we (the viewers) and they (the special someone) should find this decent and acceptable?!? I cannot buy into it—the poor special someones.  

I love the idea off off-camera alone time together with all 3 if the lead chooses, but IMO, for this show to be morally acceptable, the show needs to "show" the viewers that the others do not stay over night with any other person than their F1. Jmo. 

And bahahahaha just seeing my avi and my post up thread (and this one) is so ironic! Pretty funny! Oh how I would so love for Elan to say all of this morality stuff to Fleiss!!   

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I love the idea off off-camera alone time together with all 3 if the lead chooses, but IMO, for this show to be morally acceptable, the show needs to "show" the viewers that the others do not stay over night with any other person than their F1. Jmo. 

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I think we're way past that point. This is the same show that let viewers know Kaitlyn and Nick were having sex behind closed doors and then made Kaitlyn tell Shawn on camera what they did. This is the same show that pretended Clint and JJ were in a gay relationship and then made a joke of it on the MTA as if there was something wrong with it. Overnight dates with the F2 and F3 are small potatoes for them.

And how would they be able to show us that the F1 is the only one the lead is spending the night without making obvious that person is the F1? That would give it away every time.

And, ultimately, it's up to the lead and contestants. The lead could choose to only spend the night with the F1, but ~90% haven't. The contestants could choose to say "no, we're not going to do anything until you commit to only me", but that also usually doesn't happen. I can't blame the show for giving the cast what they want. After reading Courtney, ali, and sharleen's thoughts about it, it seems like they are all waiting since the first week for the FSD and its just accepted that he lead has to test sexual chemistry before making a decision. I don't get it, but I don't get a lot of things about the show...like asking multiple father's for their daughters' hand in marriage or kissing a bunch of people in the night. It's all a bit weird and gross when you think about it. JMO.

Elan quote morality to MF??  Now that's funny!!

LOL Exactly! I love all these last 3 posts!! 

I guess in a perfect world I want the show to change course like AAL has said that the Austrailian and/or New Zealand show(s) do. 

I want to see this if I can't have a more honest show as above: Someone likes the lead a lot so that person has enough self-confidence to tell the lead that they don't want them to invite the other two to the FS, and the lead also likes this person a lot and agrees!! Jmo and wishful thinking

I never felt bad for contestants, they knew what they signed up for..

Diana wrote:I never felt bad for contestants, they knew what they signed up for..

I do sort of feel sorry for them. They're so young and they don't fully understand or realize to what extent they're going to be manipulated. All they can see through the stars in their eyes, is the fame that's waiting at the other end of filming. 

Maybe I simply should just stop watching the show. Maybe I'm too overly sensitive and don't have the stomach for it.   ??

Nah, just take it for entertainment. No matter how bad it gets for some of these people while they're on the show, it passes and they're eventually okay.

No Ben or the girls but CH at the Sandals Ochi yesterday.


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Abbey Zaucha ‏@the_baking_Mom  · 16h16 hours ago  
@chrisbharrison thanks for hanging with my sister! So jealous have fun!

b®ittany ‏@bnyatess  · 13h13 hours ago   Jamaica  
ALSO, the Bachelor is filming the over night dates for the upcoming season right now at the resort I am at. Even saw the film crew @ dinner