The Bachelor 20 - Ben Higgins - F1 to F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

That is way early. But seriously but what if the families know that their daughter / sister is being lead on prior to his visit. Too funny. And would make a great drama storyline

eversotrue wrote:I was doing some research, and realized when RJ first reported that Ben was very smitten with someone, it was on October 16th, which was the day the girls were seen in the Mexico City airport. RS then reported he knew how the season was gonna shake out on October 22nd, 6 days after the smitten report. That was already two weeks ago. We're four weeks into filming. That means, Ben would have had to been all in with Lauren in either episode 4 or 5.

I believe it that he knew that early... RS also said yesterday that 3 girls have left before a rose ceremony ( not sure if that includes Emily). I am betting Olivia was one...prob had to do with it being obvious with BLauren ... still think she would have lasted longer otherwise.

NashvilleBB wrote:

eversotrue wrote:I was doing some research, and realized when RJ first reported that Ben was very smitten with someone, it was on October 16th, which was the day the girls were seen in the Mexico City airport. RS then reported he knew how the season was gonna shake out on October 22nd, 6 days after the smitten report. That was already two weeks ago. We're four weeks into filming. That means, Ben would have had to been all in with Lauren in either episode 4 or 5.

I believe it that he knew that early... RS also said yesterday that 3 girls have left before a rose ceremony ( not sure if that includes Emily). I am betting Olivia was one...prob had to do with it being obvious with BLauren ... still think she would have lasted longer otherwise.

He said four girls left before a rose ceremony. If that includes Emily..then I'd say Emily, Lauren Barr refused a rose, I'd guess Olivia too. I think she either left on her own but I also think it's possible she got sent packing by Ben.. There's usually one girl who causes tension or problems with feeling entitled..and with her getting the FIR, I can possibly see it being her.

It is interesting that before Ben even started filming many (including myself) posted it would be obvious if he was into a girl since he does the "spinning his wheels/going through the motions" act most of the time and did so with Kaitlyn.

Now that there's some photographic evidence showing his BL towards Lauren it is really no surprise where his F1-preference may lie and why certain girls already have gone home. It's just going through the motions from here on out, imo, and it will be interesting to see who "acts" better among the non-F1.

If the remaining girls know Ben is wanting Lauren as his F1 and has made that clear then I am sure they will be using SM hardcore once they have left to try their own hand at a Kaitlyn-campaign.

NashvilleBB wrote:

eversotrue wrote:I was doing some research, and realized when RJ first reported that Ben was very smitten with someone, it was on October 16th, which was the day the girls were seen in the Mexico City airport. RS then reported he knew how the season was gonna shake out on October 22nd, 6 days after the smitten report. That was already two weeks ago. We're four weeks into filming. That means, Ben would have had to been all in with Lauren in either episode 4 or 5.

I believe it that he knew that early... RS also said yesterday that 3 girls have left before a rose ceremony ( not sure if that includes Emily). I am betting Olivia was one...prob had to do with it being obvious with BLauren ... still think she would have lasted longer otherwise.

That's a good guess! I always felt like Lauren H and Olivia were supposed to go further. Not even necessarily because of Ben's feelings, but because they seemed like girls viewers would like and root for. I could see one or both of them leaving because of how obvious Ben was being OR I could see Olivia's whole thing about dumping a guy to go on the show and possibly doing the show for fame being the cause. JMO.

I also checked and he actually said "At least 4 people were eliminated or left before a rose ceremony took place". So, I think that would include Emily. I don't know if that includes the girl eliminated on the 2-on-1 though?

Is it also possible RJ got the Lauren's mixed up? Maybe it's always Lauren B and Lauren H never stood a chance? Just wondering?

AllAboutLove wrote:
If the remaining girls know Ben is wanting Lauren as his F1 and has made that clear then I am sure they will be using SM hardcore once they have left to try their own hand at a Kaitlyn-campaign.

But Kaitlyn had nothing else to do.  No job, no school, nothing except BE "The Bachelorette" for as long as the free ride lasted.

The 3 non-chosen ladies may have actual real lives to go back to, instead of desperately trying to extend their 15 minutes of fame.   JoJo has a fledgling Real Estate Development Empire, Amanda has 2 children and a beauty website.  Caila is the wild card, as we don't specifically know what she does for a living.

Caila is a business development associate.

metalgirl wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:
If the remaining girls know Ben is wanting Lauren as his F1 and has made that clear then I am sure they will be using SM hardcore once they have left to try their own hand at a Kaitlyn-campaign.

But Kaitlyn had nothing else to do.  No job, no school, nothing except BE "The Bachelorette" for as long as the free ride lasted.

The 3 non-chosen ladies may have actual real lives to go back to, instead of desperately trying to extend their 15 minutes of fame.   JoJo has a fledgling Real Estate Development Empire, Amanda has 2 children and a beauty website.  Caila is the wild card, as we don't specifically know what she does for a living.  

"Real lives" never seem to get in the way of Social Media.
For most of these young-uns- IMO, their "real life" is Social Media.
Especially after going on a TV show for "love".

Come January I expect them all to be gunning for the Bette gig, BIP gigs, SM sponsorships, etc, and whatever other scraps they can.
ALL of them. :Nod:

JMO

Honestly, what's wrong with them trying to be the bette? It's no different than Ben playing along until F3 when he already knew he was spinning his wheels with Kaitlyn. Why not jump on that opportunity...

sdmom wrote:Is it also possible RJ got the Lauren's mixed up? Maybe it's always Lauren B and Lauren H never stood a chance? Just wondering?

I don't think so. Lauren H was mentioned a few times.

BlackHalo wrote:Honestly, what's wrong with them trying to be the bette? It's no different than Ben playing along until F3 when he already knew he was spinning his wheels with Kaitlyn. Why not jump on that opportunity...

I don't disagree. What else to do if not F1. Ben played the game and certainly anyone else will play the game too. It's just so predictable now they may as well start filming the Bette while the other show is on.