Joelle Fletcher - (JoJo) - Bachelor 20 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

loveactually9 wrote:I agree GA. She doesn't really have the "it" quality to me. Whereas when I look through Caila's IG, she just looks like she could light up a room.

I also agree about Jojo but it will come down to edit most likely. I still think it is likely that Jojo is F3 and thus likely one of if not the contender for lead.

As to the "it" quality? The same was said about Britt lighting up a room and yet she was polarizing. And Britt's SM was positive (lots of quotes and Christian sayings) and yet that never made her likable to people and this was long before the show aired.

It will be interesting to see how Jojo is edited, especially since she got the fireworks date and the baseball date. Plus, if she is indeed F3 then she has the sweetspot position that both Kaitlyn and Ben had.

Britt being speculated as the next lead was RS's doing. Many sleuthers here just didn't see it nor believed it.

I posted in Caila's thread, it will be interesting to see how TPTB spin JoJo's edit if the F2 becomes more popular than the F3 according to the viewers.

I don't put more stock into what RS says then what he does not say. It's just another piece of the puzzle and is very dependent upon the quality and motive of his source.  
IMO he has been wrong as much as right and the minutia he spouts generally is unimportant to me anyway. That's me. His ego rivals a Macy's Parade Thanksgiving balloon. I expect to see a big version of himself hovering over the Rose Parade float this year.  Vultures can do that.
Apology for OT.

The only reason Caila is polarizing is because of the things we've heard about her. But depending on her edit and how she acts on the show, she could across as an angel that viewers love

GuardianAngel wrote:Britt being speculated as the next lead was RS's doing. Many sleuthers here just didn't see it nor believed it.

I posted in Caila's thread, it will be interesting to see how TPTB spin JoJo's edit if the F2 becomes more popular than the F3 according to the viewers.

I do think someone in production really liked Britt, since they were trying to push her hard during WTA and forced the idea that the audience was split in half, when at least 80% wanted Kaitlyn. So there probably was something to what RS said, because based on her edit I wasn't expecting her to be in the running at all and then there she was standing next to Kaitlyn flipping her hair. I'm still a bit confused by that TBH.

I agree mindless! Me too.

Yeah I don't care what RS says but I think that Britt being filmed on the first two episodes of last Bette (and updated even given) make it possible she was considered (more so than someone just being told they are considered or signing some paper) by TPTB but Kaitlyn really had overwhelming support that there was no way TPTB could not give the fans what they wanted and possibly they figured that out weeks before Kaitlyn was shown as F3 (since Britt was F6) so they could plan it that way.

I actually think sometimes what RS says can backfire in a way... he says Britt so many campaign for Kaitlyn instead. He says Jojo and so a campaign for someone else (Caila or any of the other girls) may come about. It's why I am hesitant to jump on any bandwagon for lead since, as it did with Kaitlyn, it could backfire if I put stock into RS who I don't care for at all.

Ultimately, what RS says, to me, doesn't really matter though. My thoughts on Caila were long before he posted anything as are my thoughts on Jojo - who I don't see as a standout either. I actually don't see anyone standing out as lead yet. If I had to choose I would want Whitney but she has a bf it seems and unlikely to be chosen since not a current contestant.

So, just based on being F3 where the past 2 leads have been, I will look to see if Jojo gets a good edit and if it seems like she is spinning her wheels like Ben was then I can get an idea that that's who TPTB may want.  Plus, a lot to me will depend on what TPTB inside scoop Us Weekly and People Mag start sending out hints on who the lead may be. They did this with Ben so if they do it again with one of the girls I will take that as a possible sign that they are in the know as to whom TPTB want for lead and are pushing for her.

The only reason I see this one as the 'ette is because of her F3 slot. Nothing about her appearance or credentials make me think she would make a better lead than say Amanda.

mindless wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Britt being speculated as the next lead was RS's doing. Many sleuthers here just didn't see it nor believed it.

I posted in Caila's thread, it will be interesting to see how TPTB spin JoJo's edit if the F2 becomes more popular than the F3 according to the viewers.

I do think someone in production really liked Britt, since they were trying to push her hard during WTA and forced the idea that the audience was split in half, when at least 80% wanted Kaitlyn. So there probably was something to what RS said, because based on her edit I wasn't expecting her to be in the running at all and then there she was standing next to Kaitlyn flipping her hair. I'm still a bit confused by that TBH.

I think that, at that point, they had already decided on the two leads thing and they had to sell it by acting like the audience was split. I think it was just a gimmick for ratings and i think they purposely pitted Kaitlyn against a less popular choice so that TPTB wouldn't catch that much heat for it. I still if they had originally wanted Britt, they would have never put the stuff about not showering or "lying" about wanting kids.

I do think it all comes down to edit. I remember Sean tweeting that Britt wasn't going to be the Bachelorette once they showed the girls badmouthing her, so we can probably look out for similar things this time. I'm starting to think Amanda has a good shot too, since she seems so well liked by the cast.

I think TOTB used Britt because they knew Kaitlyn would be good ratings but they also knew she would anger the audience and by saying that viewers were split and then "letting the guys decide", gets them off the hook for allowing a "girl like that" be lead imo.

loveactually9 wrote:I agree GA. She doesn't really have the "it" quality to me. Whereas when I look through Caila's IG, she just looks like she could light up a room.

I definitely agree about Caila.  Can't tell yet on Joelle because really though filming she's very hidden, which seems weird if she's F3 and a likely top Ette choice. I'm surprised she wasn't on a public date.   The F3 finish doesn't really lie and is the majority of the time the next lead, but sometimes someone else just captivates the general audience enough to be the favorite.  Also, the general audience won't be going in with the preconceived ideas that some posters here might have from what's been sleuthed or written.  They'll just be going off the person and how they come across and how they're edited.

Per RS, JoJo is the F2 girl.