Bachelor In Paradise - Season 2 - Episode Discussions - #3 *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

albean99 wrote:

nd4reality wrote:

BowenAnderson wrote:I got the feeling that Jared is just exhausted by all of this!  JMO but I think that man won't be dating anyone for a long time.

He is such a fine gentleman.  It seems like the producers are pushing him, he feels pushed by AI too.  It feels like he is being steamrolled.  He is so kind and easy going that he won't take matters into his own hands.  I wanted to give him a hug while on AP.

Samantha, well bless her heart.  I am perplexed by her post-show relationships.  Everyone except Joe and Juelia seems to say how sweet she is.  

There are a few that don't say that she is sweet.

Anyone know what tune Tanner is singing now post show ? He was pretty clear in his ITM that she is baaad.  Though Tanner is chatty  in his ITM but not so direct when actually confronting people

https://twitter.com/ttolbert05

I'd say he feels the same, nd.  Carly also made it clear she hasn't changed her mind about Samantha.

Good. And t4p. At least they haven't changed their mind from the filming. JJ has Samanatha's number as well.

Though this is probably a bone of contention between the cast relationships with them all on either side of the fence on this.

Finally catching up from Monday, Samantha annoys the crap out of me, especially when she tries to pull her innocent act.

I honestly dont get the Samantha hate by Jenny. Every week someone steals another person's supposed BF or GF. Not fair to act like what she did was any different, so what if they texted? many of them did. The only reason this became a huge blowup is because Joe was not tactile enough to stay in paradise before Samantha got there. He didnt need to be that nasty and vocal about not liking Juelia, he could have just played it by ear and tell her he was enjoying getting to know her. Just like Dan, and even Jared did.

see2love wrote:I honestly dont get the Samantha hate by Jenny. Every week someone steals another person's supposed BF or GF. Not fair to act like what she did was any different, so what if they texted? many of them did. The only reason this became a huge blowup is because Joe was not tactile enough to stay in paradise before Samantha got there. He didnt need to be that nasty and vocal about not liking Juelia, he could have just played it by ear and tell her he was enjoying getting to know her. Just like Dan, and even Jared did.

I didn't get the impression that Jenny hates Samantha but she didn't like how she treated her "supposed" friend, Juelia. I feel the same way although of course Sam had an explanation that still didn't sit right with me. It had nothing to do with the texts imo.

albean99 wrote:

see2love wrote:I honestly dont get the Samantha hate by Jenny. Every week someone steals another person's supposed BF or GF. Not fair to act like what she did was any different, so what if they texted? many of them did. The only reason this became a huge blowup is because Joe was not tactile enough to stay in paradise before Samantha got there. He didnt need to be that nasty and vocal about not liking Juelia, he could have just played it by ear and tell her he was enjoying getting to know her. Just like Dan, and even Jared did.

I didn't get the impression that Jenny hates Samantha but she didn't like how she treated her "supposed" friend, Juelia. I feel the same way although of course Sam had an explanation that still didn't sit right with me. It had nothing to do with the texts imo.

Maybe not hate but i feel it was not fair to make it seem like what she did no one else on the show did. Most of them have been switching partners with every new arrival. I fell she really liked Joe and wanted him there, the whole drama thing was too much and Joe caused all that. To make a book out of the text messages shows the kind of person he is. Gosh!

see2love wrote:I honestly dont get the Samantha hate by Jenny. Every week someone steals another person's supposed BF or GF. Not fair to act like what she did was any different, so what if they texted? many of them did. The only reason this became a huge blowup is because Joe was not tactile enough to stay in paradise before Samantha got there. He didnt need to be that nasty and vocal about not liking Juelia, he could have just played it by ear and tell her he was enjoying getting to know her. Just like Dan, and even Jared did.

I don't think that's why - I think it's because everyone else has had the graciousness to tell the other woman/man "hey, I'm interested in your boyfriend/girlfriend. Is that cool?". Amber asked Ashley S. about Dan (confirmed on Twitter), Amber asked Ashley I about Jared, Dan said that he had talked to Nick about his interest in Sammi, McKenzie said she wouldn't go after Mikey because of Julia, etc. The only people to not really care were Jacklyn and Michael G, but they never pretended to! Jacklyn was upfront about not being friends with any of these people and WANTING to disrupt the peace. Michael was upfront about being there for Tenley and only caring about her. Sammi, on the other hand, wanted it both ways - she went there and talked about how she didn't want any drama and didn't want to disrespect anyone, but STILL did.

see2love wrote:I honestly dont get the Samantha hate by Jenny. Every week someone steals another person's supposed BF or GF. Not fair to act like what she did was any different, so what if they texted? many of them did. The only reason this became a huge blowup is because Joe was not tactile enough to stay in paradise before Samantha got there. He didnt need to be that nasty and vocal about not liking Juelia, he could have just played it by ear and tell her he was enjoying getting to know her. Just like Dan, and even Jared did.

I can't stand Jenny. She said something to someone like, "That would make me want to go out and have sex with five other guys for revenge" or something like that, on one of those AP shows. That and some other stuff she's said really disgusts me, even if she was just joking. Oh yeah, and how she went on about how she hid her true personality from her husband for five years. Deceiving her own husband. Yeah not so nice of a person herself.

I dont think Samantha is evil. I just think she didnt care about Juelia or what they had to say. Apathy, but not evil. Joe would be the one who committed evil.

But Samantha said she had the conversation with Juelia but they chose not to air it.

I swear Joe made a mess of it all, and to blackmail her?

Juelia said she didn't.

IMO Joe has some rage issues but at least he owned his part publically whereas Samantha is still playing the victim and has not.

see2love wrote:But Samantha said she had the conversation with Juelia but they chose not to air it.

I swear Joe made a mess of it all, and to blackmail her?

Can you imagine how he must treat people when there aren't any cameras around? I mean, if that is the way he acts when it will be recorded for all time, how does he act when there are no witnesses?

There's no way she could have known he was capable of doing those things or that he would do those things. Who would even consider that? And I bet she thought Juelia was over reacting, cause all they had done was kiss, and it had only been one date, and Joe reassured her there was nothing there.

At worst, Samantha is a very sucky friend.

IWouldMarryAshleyI wrote:

see2love wrote:But Samantha said she had the conversation with Juelia but they chose not to air it.

I swear Joe made a mess of it all, and to blackmail her?

Can you imagine how he must treat people when there aren't any cameras around? I mean, if that is the way he acts when it will be recorded for all time, how does he act when there are no witnesses?

There's no way she could have known he was capable of doing those things or that he would do those things. Who would even consider that? And I bet she thought Juelia was over reacting, cause all they had done was kiss, and it had only been one date, and Joe reassured her there was nothing there.

At worst, Samantha is a very sucky friend.

IA. When he showed who he was on Kaitlyn's season, we should have believed him.

see2love wrote:But Samantha said she had the conversation with Juelia but they chose not to air it.

nd4reality wrote:Juelia said she didn't.
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Since I thought Sam was telling a bold-faced lie as soon as the words came out of her mouth on AP, I am not surprised that Jublia said it never happened.