Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #7

chasingpavements wrote:

umngirl wrote:Nick doesn't help his cause when he does things like this. He really does come off as very into himself and like his $hit don't stink. Sorry to break it to you dude, but that ain't the truth. There's a way to have an opinion with coming across as mean and like your better than other people. And at him saying Ben is basically him 8 years ago. He really must think he's something else because they only similarity between those two is that they were both on the same season.

And that they are both in sales.

Honestly, I'd love to know where Nick is getting that from. Ben is laid-back, universally liked by people in the franchise, doesn't like attention, very dedicated to charity, and hasn't bad-mouthed anyone. Nick is intense, controversial, very opinionated, and LOVES the attention. I like how Nick was like (paraphrased) "Ben's 26, he still doesn't have things figured out. As a 34 y/o man, I know myself very well and know what I'm looking for in a relationship". FALSE, Nick. You were ready to marry two woman you had gone on 4-5 supervised dates with and were completely wrong for you. You have zero self-awareness.

seton wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

seton wrote:ok, finished the podcast. I think my favorite part was Nickie's mom telling him to be smarter (which he, of course, poo-pooed) . A mother always knows.

Well I think that point of telling that story was that Nick doesn't care what others think about him.  He knows who he is and those he cares about know who he is.  His mom wanted people to like him.  He wanted to be real.  I applaud him.  He made the right choice.

Yeah, I know why he told the story, He is so 'edgy', so 'real, a real a-hole, yadda yadda. If he was my kid, I would get Joe's brass knuckles. I am sure that Nick will think that would be GLORIOUS!

OnePromise wrote:

seton wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

Well I think that point of telling that story was that Nick doesn't care what others think about him.  He knows who he is and those he cares about know who he is.  His mom wanted people to like him.  He wanted to be real.  I applaud him.  He made the right choice.

Yeah, I know why he told the story, He is so 'edgy', so 'real, a real a-hole, yadda yadda. If he was my kid, I would get Joe's brass knuckles. I am sure that Nick will think that would be GLORIOUS!

Another of his main points was that it is just a show... I don't think that you need to bring the brass knuckles to the table.  Overkill.  

Stacia620 wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:

umngirl wrote:Nick doesn't help his cause when he does things like this. He really does come off as very into himself and like his $hit don't stink. Sorry to break it to you dude, but that ain't the truth. There's a way to have an opinion with coming across as mean and like your better than other people. And at him saying Ben is basically him 8 years ago. He really must think he's something else because they only similarity between those two is that they were both on the same season.

And that they are both in sales.

Honestly, I'd love to know where Nick is getting that from. Ben is laid-back, universally liked by people in the franchise, doesn't like attention, very dedicated to charity, and hasn't bad-mouthed anyone. Nick is intense, controversial, very opinionated, and LOVES the attention. I like how Nick was like (paraphrased) "Ben's 26, he still doesn't have things figured out. As a 34 y/o man, I know myself very well and know what I'm looking for in a relationship". FALSE, Nick. You were ready to marry two woman you had gone on 4-5 supervised dates with and were completely wrong for you. You have zero self-awareness.

That probably makes him even more aware of what he wants and does not want.  Experience...good and bad, leads to self-awareness.

Seabear wrote:Say what you will about Nick he evokes interest and passion.  We burn through thread after thread talking about him.  Just sayin....  #teamNick

chasingpavements wrote:Just want to point out that many people who are complimenting Nick on being honest had a problem with Kaitlyn/Shawn, Andi, and Josh bad-mouthing him all season. Why is nick refreshing but the others are cruel?

I had a problem with all of them, btw. A little kindness and compassion never killed anyone.

chasingpavements wrote:Just want to point out that many people who are complimenting Nick on being honest had a problem with Kaitlyn/Shawn, Andi, and Josh bad-mouthing him all season. Why is nick refreshing but the others are cruel?

I had a problem with all of them, btw. A little kindness and compassion never killed anyone.

OnePromise wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:Just want to point out that many people who are complimenting Nick on being honest had a problem with Kaitlyn/Shawn, Andi, and Josh bad-mouthing him all season. Why is nick refreshing but the others are cruel?

I had a problem with all of them, btw. A little kindness and compassion never killed anyone.

For me it has to do with the setting CP.  In K&S and A&J cases, they were the winners.  The ones who came out "on top".  They kicked the "loser" when he was down.  Sore winners just don't do it for me.  

On the other hand, Nick is making comments about other contestants on the show... Peers, for lack of a better description.  It would be a different ball game if Nick got the girl and was then badmouthing the other guy.  I would be disappointed in him if that were the case as well.  

seton wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

seton wrote:


Yeah, I know why he told the story, He is so 'edgy', so 'real, a real a-hole, yadda yadda. If he was my kid, I would get Joe's brass knuckles. I am sure that Nick will think that would be GLORIOUS!

Another of his main points was that it is just a show... I don't think that you need to bring the brass knuckles to the table.  Overkill.  

You must give me the outline that Nickie followed since you seem to know all his power points and exactly what he meant on everything. I'm sure I will find it just GLORIOUS.

It's just a show.
By the same token, it's just a hypothetical sentence.