Re: Ashley and J.P - General Media Discussion - Thread #1

[Guest]

I'm disappointed in most of the media, People being top on the list. I thought they were more credible and would be more gracious to JP and Ashley. I was going to buy the magazine, but I'm not now. The HL article is just all crap. They are really playing up JP's jealousy, saying, he was battling intense jealousy, and had daggers in his heart. When if fact what is quoted of him saying is "I tried to stay focused, but it stung a bit", big difference. The rest of all the garbage that is being put out there, Ashley sleeping with Ben, etc.. don't believe any of it. I've seen Ashley and JP's post show interviews and heard what they have said, and I'll trust that over any rag magazine.

As for Jesse C's comments, I will probably take a lot of heat for this, but I have a very difficult time believing he made those comments as well. Wasn't that also from the trusted upstanding rag Hollywood Life? I know many don't like Jesse, but I just don't see him putting himself in that position to trash the Bachelorette he was blogging about for ABC. He is also friends with Ashley S, and I don't see him talking badly about her BFF when she is on his show. Now, I can most definitely see Wes, or Jesse K making those comments, but Jesse has pretty much stayed out of the personal bashing, though he will make comments about the producers and how manipulative they are. I guess what I'm trying to say in a nut shell, is I'm not believing any of the crap that is out there!

[noobsleuth]

Just saw the new OK! pics of JP grocery shopping... you know I have a serious illness when I look at my clock thinking, "ooo JP is probably almost done work... I hope we gets some shots of him"... I am pathetic. LOL

[ninu]

Those pictures don't come up, on the original site, or on the board for me :(

[Rosepetal]

I'm disappointed in most of the media, People being top on the list. I thought they were more credible and would be more gracious to JP and Ashley. I was going to buy the magazine, but I'm not now. The HL article is just all crap. They are really playing up JP's jealousy, saying, he was battling intense jealousy, and had daggers in his heart. When if fact what is quoted of him saying is "I tried to stay focused, but it stung a bit", big difference. The rest of all the garbage that is being put out there, Ashley sleeping with Ben, etc.. don't believe any of it. I've seen Ashley and JP's post show interviews and heard what they have said, and I'll trust that over any rag magazine.

As for Jesse C's comments, I will probably take a lot of heat for this, but I have a very difficult time believing he made those comments as well. Wasn't that also from the trusted upstanding rag Hollywood Life? I know many don't like Jesse, but I just don't see him putting himself in that position to trash the Bachelorette he was blogging about for ABC. He is also friends with Ashley S, and I don't see him talking badly about her BFF when she is on his show. Now, I can most definitely see Wes, or Jesse K making those comments, but Jesse has pretty much stayed out of the personal bashing, though he will make comments about the producers and how manipulative they are. I guess what I'm trying to say in a nut shell, is I'm not believing any of the crap that is out there!

He didn't say those things. Jesse K. did.

[JBF]

JBF I think you met to say Jesse K. Jesse C. is the host and he gave no opinion.

You are right... I'll correct it!

[chaslom4]

http://www.okmagazine.com/2011/08/j-p-rosenbaum-is-all-smiles-while-running-errands-in-nyc/

[Shelby]

it did not take long for the tabloids

This is ridiculous on so many level

1. ashley would have never jeopardize her relationship with JP, If she broke the rules and said I love you to reinsure JP (methinks taiwan). do people think that she will sleep with ben the previous day of JP's proposal?

2. ashley spiney at beatdown said that ashley wanted Ben out of the show BEFORE the FRC but producers said that this show they wanted a proposal refusal. AshleyS said that she cannot say more because of her abc contract but obviously ashley tried to avoid the humiliation somehow.

3. I have a hard time to believe that ben said that she slept with her although I am still not getting how he was so sure she would accept his proposal. Yes they laugh a lot, yes she flirted a lot. I dunno here.

EXTRA just reported that Ben and Ash most likely did not "sleep" together and JP is not "jealous". Take it which ever way you want to. Only Ben and Ashley would know the full truth.

Recently watched the Bachelorette Beatdown and was surprised about Ashley S. revealing the original intention to send Ben early.

Glad a discussion was made about Jesse C. here. He was most vocal about JP's "jealousy". I have no clue what he has against JP, but this isn't the first time he brought up Taiwan's episode. Is he is hoping they will break up and needs some "reason"? No clue how that mind of "Junior" operates. In a previous show, Trista corrected both him and Dave regarding the idea of everbody "doing it" with the lead.

(For the record... Trista, Jason, Kiptyn, Natalie, Craig, Marisa and Ashley S. all think Jordash may or will last. Jesse C., Dave and Wes have their doubts. The other Jesse didn't give an opinion.)

I haven't seen all of these shows, but they are quite pointless and boring, so I won't bother with them anymore. On the plus side, there was some great inside stuff with Jason relating to Ben's rejection, confirming what I had always thought: Ben was being manipulated by the producers just as BOTH he and Jesse were in Deanna's season. Jesse calls them "full on head doctors". On the minus side, I'm tired of both Wes and Dave's "light-hearted" homophobic jokes. I get that they have "opinions" regarding gays and love suggesting that JP (once in jest), Ryan (twice) and Jake (all the time) all are, but...

agreed... as usual

JesseC is full of bitterness. Sure he was manipulated. Sure DeAnna humiliated him in public saying he was never her choice. Probably Deanna slept with jason and him (seems that jason and jesse are friends enough that they have shared infos) but I really did not like his way as a host.

Marisa turned down her comments. She used to be extremely vocal about JP's jealousy. She probably receive a few comments that she was over the top there.

yeah I got tired but kept watching only for ashley spiney.

[JBF]

it did not take long for the tabloids

This is ridiculous on so many level

1. ashley would have never jeopardize her relationship with JP, If she broke the rules and said I love you to reinsure JP (methinks taiwan). do people think that she will sleep with ben the previous day of JP's proposal?

2. ashley spiney at beatdown said that ashley wanted Ben out of the show BEFORE the FRC but producers said that this show they wanted a proposal refusal. AshleyS said that she cannot say more because of her abc contract but obviously ashley tried to avoid the humiliation somehow.

3. I have a hard time to believe that ben said that she slept with her although I am still not getting how he was so sure she would accept his proposal. Yes they laugh a lot, yes she flirted a lot. I dunno here.

EXTRA just reported that Ben and Ash most likely did not "sleep" together and JP is not "jealous". Take it which ever way you want to. Only Ben and Ashley would know the full truth.

Recently watched the Bachelorette Beatdown and was surprised about Ashley S. revealing the original intention to send Ben early.

Glad a discussion was made about Jesse C. here. He was most vocal about JP's "jealousy". I have no clue what he has against JP, but this isn't the first time he brought up Taiwan's episode. Is he is hoping they will break up and needs some "reason"? No clue how that mind of "Junior" operates. In a previous show, Trista corrected both him and Dave regarding the idea of everbody "doing it" with the lead.

(For the record... Trista, Jason, Kiptyn, Natalie, Craig, Marisa and Ashley S. all think Jordash may or will last. Jesse C., Dave and Wes have their doubts. The other Jesse didn't give an opinion.)

I haven't seen all of these shows, but they are quite pointless and boring, so I won't bother with them anymore. On the plus side, there was some great inside stuff with Jason relating to Ben's rejection, confirming what I had always thought: Ben was being manipulated by the producers just as BOTH he and Jesse were in Deanna's season. Jesse calls them "full on head doctors". On the minus side, I'm tired of both Wes and Dave's "light-hearted" homophobic jokes. I get that they have "opinions" regarding gays and love suggesting that JP (once in jest), Ryan (twice) and Jake (all the time) all are, but...

agreed... as usual

JesseC is full of bitterness. Sure he was manipulated. Sure DeAnna humiliated him in public saying he was never her choice. Probably Deanna slept with jason and him (seems that jason and jesse are friends enough that they have shared infos) but I really did not like his way as a host.

Marisa turned down her comments. She used to be extremely vocal about JP's jealousy. She probably receive a few comments that she was over the top there.

yeah I got tired but kept watching only for ashley spiney.

Jesse K... I had to correct my post. This is not Deanna's Jesse who is married and has a child. This is winemaker Jesse.

Jesse is probably a good guy, but he "assumes" everybody has sex on this show. Trista corrected both him and Dave on that in a previous Backbeat show. Obviously, he is less bothered about "sharing" women and thinks JP over-reacted in Taiwan. Twice, he has brought that up on those shows.

[Guest]

I'm disappointed in most of the media, People being top on the list. I thought they were more credible and would be more gracious to JP and Ashley. I was going to buy the magazine, but I'm not now. The HL article is just all crap. They are really playing up JP's jealousy, saying, he was battling intense jealousy, and had daggers in his heart. When if fact what is quoted of him saying is "I tried to stay focused, but it stung a bit", big difference. The rest of all the garbage that is being put out there, Ashley sleeping with Ben, etc.. don't believe any of it. I've seen Ashley and JP's post show interviews and heard what they have said, and I'll trust that over any rag magazine.

As for Jesse C's comments, I will probably take a lot of heat for this, but I have a very difficult time believing he made those comments as well. Wasn't that also from the trusted upstanding rag Hollywood Life? I know many don't like Jesse, but I just don't see him putting himself in that position to trash the Bachelorette he was blogging about for ABC. He is also friends with Ashley S, and I don't see him talking badly about her BFF when she is on his show. Now, I can most definitely see Wes, or Jesse K making those comments, but Jesse has pretty much stayed out of the personal bashing, though he will make comments about the producers and how manipulative they are. I guess what I'm trying to say in a nut shell, is I'm not believing any of the crap that is out there!

He didn't say those things. Jesse K. did.

I thought someone said Jesse C was quoted as saying the Ashley and all the Bachelorettes sleep with all the final 2 guys? That was the comment I was referring to, and what I didn't think Jesse C would say, sound definitely like something Jesse K would say!

[ironcat]

Just to clear up who said what, Jesse C said (possibly at an earlier time) that typically the leads sleep with the F2 people, Jesse K said that JP has serious jealousy and control issues, Dave said that he thought Ashley had a lot more chemistry with Ben than JP, and Wes said that he thinks JP may be gay. I think that pretty much covers it for the words of wisdom from the "braintrust".

[Shelby]

it did not take long for the tabloids

This is ridiculous on so many level

1. ashley would have never jeopardize her relationship with JP, If she broke the rules and said I love you to reinsure JP (methinks taiwan). do people think that she will sleep with ben the previous day of JP's proposal?

2. ashley spiney at beatdown said that ashley wanted Ben out of the show BEFORE the FRC but producers said that this show they wanted a proposal refusal. AshleyS said that she cannot say more because of her abc contract but obviously ashley tried to avoid the humiliation somehow.

3. I have a hard time to believe that ben said that she slept with her although I am still not getting how he was so sure she would accept his proposal. Yes they laugh a lot, yes she flirted a lot. I dunno here.

EXTRA just reported that Ben and Ash most likely did not "sleep" together and JP is not "jealous". Take it which ever way you want to. Only Ben and Ashley would know the full truth.

Recently watched the Bachelorette Beatdown and was surprised about Ashley S. revealing the original intention to send Ben early.

Glad a discussion was made about Jesse C. here. He was most vocal about JP's "jealousy". I have no clue what he has against JP, but this isn't the first time he brought up Taiwan's episode. Is he is hoping they will break up and needs some "reason"? No clue how that mind of "Junior" operates. In a previous show, Trista corrected both him and Dave regarding the idea of everbody "doing it" with the lead.

(For the record... Trista, Jason, Kiptyn, Natalie, Craig, Marisa and Ashley S. all think Jordash may or will last. Jesse C., Dave and Wes have their doubts. The other Jesse didn't give an opinion.)

I haven't seen all of these shows, but they are quite pointless and boring, so I won't bother with them anymore. On the plus side, there was some great inside stuff with Jason relating to Ben's rejection, confirming what I had always thought: Ben was being manipulated by the producers just as BOTH he and Jesse were in Deanna's season. Jesse calls them "full on head doctors". On the minus side, I'm tired of both Wes and Dave's "light-hearted" homophobic jokes. I get that they have "opinions" regarding gays and love suggesting that JP (once in jest), Ryan (twice) and Jake (all the time) all are, but...

agreed... as usual

JesseC is full of bitterness. Sure he was manipulated. Sure DeAnna humiliated him in public saying he was never her choice. Probably Deanna slept with jason and him (seems that jason and jesse are friends enough that they have shared infos) but I really did not like his way as a host.

Marisa turned down her comments. She used to be extremely vocal about JP's jealousy. She probably receive a few comments that she was over the top there.

yeah I got tired but kept watching only for ashley spiney.

Jesse K... I had to correct my post. This is not Deanna's Jesse who is married and has a child. This is winemaker Jesse.

Jesse is probably a good guy, but he "assumes" everybody has sex on this show. Trista corrected both him and Dave on that in a previous Backbeat show. Obviously, he is less bothered about "sharing" women and thinks JP over-reacted in Taiwan. Twice, he has brought that up on those shows.

well JesseC was very vocal to say that JP will break down soon about his jealousy. He was not a JP fan for sure. Not being neutral he gave very little time to those who liked JP and tons of time to those who disliked JP. I understand that each has opinions but as a host he sucked.

[Guest]

Caught up on all these great posts and support of JP and Ashley.

Best line ever, Ironcat ~"The 3 stooges, Wes, Kovacs and David Good"

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