Re: Ashley and J.P - General Media Discussion - Thread #1

[CanadaGoose]

I tried to watch beatdown and couldn't stand it! Not worth wasting my time on those losers (most of them). I'm so disappointed in Ashley S and Trista for being on the program.

x forever.

[Pattycake92]

Me thinks the guys are a tad bit jealous of JP. Woman all across America have the hots for JP, including their wives and girlfriends.

[ahdey]

Me thinks the guys are a tad bit jealous of JP. Woman all across America have the hots for JP, including their wives and girlfriends.

They are jealous & are harping on JP being jealous! Talk about pot calling kettle black! They need to get over it because he is HOT! HOT! HOT! in every which way possible including his character!!! No amount of plastic surgery will help them achieve this kind of HOTNESS!LOL!!

[Diana]

Didn't Jason just say at the MTA that it was Ash's decision or something like that? Ugh no comment.


Ash looks beautiful on the cover!

[Chacharo]

If you haven't watched the Bachelorette Beatdown on RTVZone, you really should. Tells so much about what goes on with production pushing people to do things and telling guys that they are the one when they are not.

Hard to watch because Wes, Jesse K and David. So vile

I have to agree on this. But the rest of them are interesting and give an important inside look at production.

But I didn't like that Jason says there is no way that Ashley and J.P. will work. He thinks that J.P. is too uptight and full of jealousy. Whoa.

I'm pretty sure it was Jesse Kovaks who said this. Not Jason.

Here's some of what Jason did say:

I was told that I was the one. I don’t trust any of those producers. She could have stopped him, but was most likely told that she needed to let him do it because he was going to be a good bachelor – we need to see the emotion from him. They make you believe – i.e. they most likely told Ashley that Ben wants to be the next bachelor and the audience needs to see the proposal – they make you believe that.

[vickiemarie]

yes it was jesse kovaks who said that

[Keili]

That makes more sense. I didn't understand how Jason could say that when his tweet after the finale was so positive for them.

[skitts]

If you haven't watched the Bachelorette Beatdown on RTVZone, you really should. Tells so much about what goes on with production pushing people to do things and telling guys that they are the one when they are not.

Hard to watch because Wes, Jesse K and David. So vile

I have to agree on this. But the rest of them are interesting and give an important inside look at production.

But I didn't like that Jason says there is no way that Ashley and J.P. will work. He thinks that J.P. is too uptight and full of jealousy. Whoa.

I'm pretty sure it was Jesse Kovaks who said this. Not Jason.

Here's some of what Jason did say:

I was told that I was the one. I don’t trust any of those producers. She could have stopped him, but was most likely told that she needed to let him do it because he was going to be a good bachelor – we need to see the emotion from him. They make you believe – i.e. they most likely told Ashley that Ben wants to be the next bachelor and the audience needs to see the proposal – they make you believe that.

I seemed to me that Ash and JP looked a bit reserved (maybe standoffish) in the ATFR. Possibly they both might have had enough of the producers and 'peeked' with their machinations. I don't doubt their happiness at all but noticed, especially with Ashley, when talking with Chris she appeared 'purposely reserved'. Did anyone else notice this?

[vivalameagx3]

That makes more sense. I didn't understand how Jason could say that when his tweet after the finale was so positive for them.

I think once they get in a group like that, it's like a competition to out-do each other with their mean/sarcastic comments. I only watch the show for Ashley S's commentary.

[tigertiz]

I seemed to me that Ash and JP looked a bit reserved (maybe standoffish) in the ATFR. Possibly they both might have had enough of the producers and 'peeked' with their machinations. I don't doubt their happiness at all but noticed, especially with Ashley, when talking with Chris she appeared 'purposely reserved'. Did anyone else notice this?

I completely noticed this as well. Maybe it was due to her physical and emotional exhaustion. She was reserved with the pre recorded interview with Chris and just not herself on the ATFR. But I watched her very carefully on GMA and R&K on Tuesday. She seemed much more relaxed and as happy as I would expect. So was JP. She was a different person. It must have been a very draining weekend in LA for her. I'm sure she was dreading a confrontation with Ben, etc. It was the final painful hurdle. I dont think she'll have as much of a relationship with the producers as Ali does. But then again , Ali needs them more to help with her Hollywood career. Ashley does not.

[vivalameagx3]

I seemed to me that Ash and JP looked a bit reserved (maybe standoffish) in the ATFR. Possibly they both might have had enough of the producers and 'peeked' with their machinations. I don't doubt their happiness at all but noticed, especially with Ashley, when talking with Chris she appeared 'purposely reserved'. Did anyone else notice this?

I completely noticed this as well. Maybe it was due to her physical and emotional exhaustion. She was reserved with the pre recorded interview with Chris and just not herself on the ATFR. But I watched her very carefully on GMA and R&K on Tuesday. She seemed much more relaxed and as happy as I would expect. So was JP. She was a different person. It must have been a very draining weekend in LA for her. I'm sure she was dreading a confrontation with Ben, etc. It was the final painful hurdle. I dont think she'll have as much of a relationship with the producers as Ali does. But then again , Ali needs them more to help with her Hollywood career. Ashley does not.

I think the post-show interviews are a better representation of her (versus ATFR & MTA) because she is away from the Bach bubble a little and can be with JP. I also noticed that JP is a lot more shy IRL than I thought. On the show they definitely made him seem like a "take charge" guy, which I think he is, but I think he also has a reserved/shy side that wasn't on the show. I think it balances Ash's craziness perfectly!!

[cfck2222]

Here's a report on the new tabloids:

PEOPLE have the Ashley/JP cover story.
US has a 2 page spread on Ashley/JP, no mention on the cover.
OK has a little feature (like close to half a page but a little less) that's not their main cover story but is one of their cover stories called "Ashley: In Love Or In Hell?"
IN TOUCH looks to continue its 0-fer streak with a "JP's Family Says Don't Marry Ashley" story that is one of their cover stories but not their main one.
STAR has a story called "Ashley: Engaged & Miserable!" that's one of their cover stories but not their main one.
LIFE & STYLE has a 2 page story on Ashley & JP that's much much more positive than the "Ashley & JP: Jealous Fights Already!" headline on their cover would make you believe. Not their main cover story.

People's story covers what the teaser on the cover says so it's actually surprisingly focused on negative stuff. There are a bunch of cute pictures including one on the Table Of Contents page and a bunch in the story. My favorite one is in the story where Ashley's grabbed JP's tie to pull him close and they're smushing noses together and smiling big. The story starts out with Ashley talking about finding love then goes on to say it hasn't been all peaches because while the show has aired, JP's had to endure watching Ashley getting close to other guys including Bent and Ben. In the context of talking about Ash falling initially for Bent and talking about him there's a quote from JP saying that he reminded himself he had signed up for this and it's the nature of the show but it still stung. JP says they'd talk through stuff, call it "show misunderstandings" and move on. But it was hard not being able to be together and be public. The article mentions tabloid reports of JP not being over his ex with JP saying he got his heart broken in 2008 but he wishes the girl well and has nothing bad to say about her. Later in the article there's talk about how humiliated Ashley was and all the judgment she endured because Bent was talking out of both sides of his mouth. JP says you can tell a person not to read what's being said about them but it's almost impossible to resist. He said he kept telling Ashley, "They don't know you." There's an inset on Chrystie that ends with her saying "How could you not love JP?" There's an inset on Ben F talking about how shocked, down, and angry he was that Ashley rejected him. The article mentions Ashley's "steamy makeout session" with Ben F the night before FRC. Ashley says she understands there will be backlash for how she handled the FRC situation and the article says she can't really explain the whole thing. [My note: how can she? It's not like she can say the producers made me do it.] She said she tried to talk first but Ben F insisted on going first. Ashley and JP say going through what they've been through and surviving, they're stronger together now than they would've if they'd just met the normal way. Ashley isn't going to convert to Judaism but that's not an issue between them. They confirm Ashley will finish dental school at UPenn then JP and Ashley will move in together in New York. They say they believe the toughest time is behind them and now that they survived it there will be good things ahead.

Us actually has the most positive story out of anybody. It uses pictures from the FRC and the article talks about how Ashley and JP were all over each other even when the cameras were off at ATFR. The article quotes an anonymous insider saying they're really in love but not rushing into a wedding. the insider says JP wants to accomplish more professionally before they wed and Ashley still has to finish dental school. The article confirms they'll be moving in together as we know and also says JP and Ashley will be taking a month off to just be together. The article speculates that will include the trip to Fiji they won. They quote the insider saying it doesn't matter where they are, they'll very much in love. On a sad note I think it's the Us article that says Ben F was devastated and crying over the rejection. Us says the next Bachelor hasn't been decided yet but it's between Ames, Ben F, and Ryan. The article says Ames won't do it because of his relationship w Jackie though I thought RS said that was over. Who knows if that's true.

OK's little featurette basically has a positive side with gushy Ashley quotes from JP (that we already know) and a negative side talking about her insecurities that JP still talks about his ex Stephanie Kerman and because guys on the season like Ben F were distant and Constantine and Mickey left.

In Touch has a little story across the bottom of a page saying JP's family wants him to marry a nice Jewish girl and his ex Stephanie Kerman fit the bill. So they're against this marriage. I guess In Touch didn't read Ashley's blog after HTDs

Star has this week's nastiest B/ette story. Basically says JP hasn't been able to handle Ashley's hookups with other guys on the show. It claims Ashley slept with Ben F the night before the FRC in the fantasy suite (pretty sure the story's already fallen apart right there) and Ben F's been telling people about their "raunchy romp" and his jabs at JP about it are exactly what JP can't handle. There's a quote from an anonymous "friend of Ashley's" saying Ben F's immature and is only saying that stuff because of his bruised ego because he was really upset and mad over Ashley's rejection. They interview and quote Jesse C saying most leads hook up with both of their F2 and he's heard it happened in this case too. I don't know what Jesse C's definition of "hook up" is but Star's obviously spinning it as sexual intimacy.

Life & Style's story is 95% positive. The whole first part is about how happy Ashley and JP are but then there's a part where it says there was a time a few weeks ago that JP couldn't handle what he was seeing and either wanted to end it or did end it but that didn't last long. I think there's also something about how when Ashley is out somewhere and JP can't reach her it's hard on him because he wants to know where she is (obviously more of the jealousy angle). The article says JP was overheard on July 14th at a party at Casa La Femme saying he was in the market for a townhouse, not just a floor but a whole townhouse. The article talks about Ashley and JP moving in together and how now they've made it through the tough times and are very happy to move on with their lives together. Lots of gushy happy stuff that we already knew and there's a page in the middle about whether they can break the curse, mentioning again that they were allowed to spend more time together than other couples because the producers want to help them make it work. I think the L&S article claims they had time together in New York and also in Philly but I don't know if the Philly part of that is true. The article says Ashley is always on JP's mind and he's gotten her lots of nice gifts like earrings and stuff like that.

I'm interested to see if the tabloid coverage next week (other than In Touch anyway LOL) is more positive after JP & Ashley's media tour this week.

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