The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - FRC - ATFR- July 27th *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

OnePromise wrote:

remockered wrote:Would it not be mindblowing if this was Kaitlyns biggest prank on RS?  Too many weird stories coming out now.  Break- up with Shawn, preggers with Nick's baby, preggers with Shawn's baby, sex multiple times with Nick, sex with Shawn at hotel after first one on one. Sex in Utah, asking Nick to come on ( knew this since beginning, however), friends coming out of woodwork on All three throwing them under the bus, everything but the kitchen sink.  So, we have to sleuth-- why are they throwing out all these distractions now?  What is happening in RL that they do not want us to notice?

Love you Remockered.... And you know what I'd say about this.  Kaitlyn chose Nick.  It is the most obvious ending ever and incidentally the only ending that has not been spoiled... Makes me go, Hmmmm. Many have said that without the snapchat and SM spoiling hints, there would be little question of who she chose.  IMO the initial spoiler of "she chose no one" wasn't holding up and so they tried with a second one.  And they made it stick with concrete "proof" and SM support...obvious support.

During Kaitlyn's most recent interview after the MTA, she said something like she wasn't going to give away her ending because the past few seasons were easily spoiled and given away.  She wants to keep people guessing... How exactly does the snapchat, her biased People blogs and SM do that?  They don't if she chose Shawn.  They do if she chose Nick.

But why would she be "having fun" with Shawn at the SH visits??? That is weird--imo. They both snapped about them and were clearly together. ;)

OnePromise wrote:

remockered wrote:Would it not be mindblowing if this was Kaitlyns biggest prank on RS?  Too many weird stories coming out now.  Break- up with Shawn, preggers with Nick's baby, preggers with Shawn's baby, sex multiple times with Nick, sex with Shawn at hotel after first one on one. Sex in Utah, asking Nick to come on ( knew this since beginning, however), friends coming out of woodwork on All three throwing them under the bus, everything but the kitchen sink.  So, we have to sleuth-- why are they throwing out all these distractions now?  What is happening in RL that they do not want us to notice?

Love you Remockered.... And you know what I'd say about this.  Kaitlyn chose Nick.  It is the most obvious ending ever and incidentally the only ending that has not been spoiled... Makes me go, Hmmmm. Many have said that without the snapchat and SM spoiling hints, there would be little question of who she chose.  IMO the initial spoiler of "she chose no one" wasn't holding up and so they tried with a second one.  And they made it stick with concrete "proof" and SM support...obvious support.

During Kaitlyn's most recent interview after the MTA, she said something like she wasn't going to give away her ending because the past few seasons were easily spoiled and given away.  She wants to keep people guessing... How exactly does the snapchat, her biased People blogs and SM do that?  They don't if she chose Shawn.  They do if she chose Nick.

How can she say she is keeping people guessing when she had made it obvious who she picked. Such BS really? Besides Nick has also acted in no way to suggest he is f1.

soccermom333 wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

remockered wrote:Would it not be mindblowing if this was Kaitlyns biggest prank on RS?  Too many weird stories coming out now.  Break- up with Shawn, preggers with Nick's baby, preggers with Shawn's baby, sex multiple times with Nick, sex with Shawn at hotel after first one on one. Sex in Utah, asking Nick to come on ( knew this since beginning, however), friends coming out of woodwork on All three throwing them under the bus, everything but the kitchen sink.  So, we have to sleuth-- why are they throwing out all these distractions now?  What is happening in RL that they do not want us to notice?

Love you Remockered.... And you know what I'd say about this.  Kaitlyn chose Nick.  It is the most obvious ending ever and incidentally the only ending that has not been spoiled... Makes me go, Hmmmm. Many have said that without the snapchat and SM spoiling hints, there would be little question of who she chose.  IMO the initial spoiler of "she chose no one" wasn't holding up and so they tried with a second one.  And they made it stick with concrete "proof" and SM support...obvious support.

During Kaitlyn's most recent interview after the MTA, she said something like she wasn't going to give away her ending because the past few seasons were easily spoiled and given away.  She wants to keep people guessing... How exactly does the snapchat, her biased People blogs and SM do that?  They don't if she chose Shawn.  They do if she chose Nick.

But why would she be "having fun" with Shawn at the SH visits???  That is weird--imo.    They both snapped about them and were clearly together.  ;)

Yes, but see in my crazy theory all of that SHV stuff was done for show. A ruse. A game.

Who knows? They could have had Nick and Kaitlyn have a SHV during the week before July fourth and then put on a show during the real weekend. Just because Kaitlyn and Shawn posted photos of them near a pool does not mean they were together. They could just as easily have been in separate safe houses. And Nick would have been instructed to be out on a boat with girls to make sure that we still believe that he is single and not with Kaitlyn and a pool shot. That way the spoiler is kept solidly intact.

That's how I would play the game. Go big or go home. All in.

mysthelma wrote:

OnePromise wrote:

remockered wrote:Would it not be mindblowing if this was Kaitlyns biggest prank on RS?  Too many weird stories coming out now.  Break- up with Shawn, preggers with Nick's baby, preggers with Shawn's baby, sex multiple times with Nick, sex with Shawn at hotel after first one on one. Sex in Utah, asking Nick to come on ( knew this since beginning, however), friends coming out of woodwork on All three throwing them under the bus, everything but the kitchen sink.  So, we have to sleuth-- why are they throwing out all these distractions now?  What is happening in RL that they do not want us to notice?

Love you Remockered.... And you know what I'd say about this.  Kaitlyn chose Nick.  It is the most obvious ending ever and incidentally the only ending that has not been spoiled... Makes me go, Hmmmm. Many have said that without the snapchat and SM spoiling hints, there would be little question of who she chose.  IMO the initial spoiler of "she chose no one" wasn't holding up and so they tried with a second one.  And they made it stick with concrete "proof" and SM support...obvious support.

During Kaitlyn's most recent interview after the MTA, she said something like she wasn't going to give away her ending because the past few seasons were easily spoiled and given away.  She wants to keep people guessing... How exactly does the snapchat, her biased People blogs and SM do that?  They don't if she chose Shawn.  They do if she chose Nick.

How can she say she is keeping people guessing when she had made it obvious who she picked. Such BS really? Besides Nick has also acted in no way to suggest he is f1.

Exactly!  She is not keeping anyone guessing by giving only obvious hints that Shawn is her F1.  To keep people guessing, she would have had to give subtle hints that she chose Shawn followed by subtle hints that she chose Nick.  Only giving very obvious hints that she chose Shawn leads people to only one answer...she chose Shawn.  There is no mystery in that.  Either she is horrible at her own game (which honestly I would not put past her at this point) or she really chose Nick and the mystery comes because she is acting 100% like she chose Shawn.  

And Nick has not been acting like F1?  Well, he has in a subtle way.  Supporting Kaitlyn on SM.  Posting ambiguous poetic things about Kaitlyn.  Smiling from ear to ear in nearly every photo of him post show.  How exactly is an F1 supposed to act?

The choosing Nick theory would mean that Shawn would have to be involved in the foiler, too. Contract or not, I just do not see that happening. I think Shawn would much rather stick hot coals in his eyes then play along like that.

remockered wrote:Would it not be mindblowing if this was Kaitlyns biggest prank on RS?  Too many weird stories coming out now.  Break- up with Shawn, preggers with Nick's baby, preggers with Shawn's baby, sex multiple times with Nick, sex with Shawn at hotel after first one on one. Sex in Utah, asking Nick to come on ( knew this since beginning, however), friends coming out of woodwork on All three throwing them under the bus, everything but the kitchen sink.  So, we have to sleuth-- why are they throwing out all these distractions now?  What is happening in RL that they do not want us to notice?

Or... the gig is up (with snapchat) and they are throwing out distractions to make us question what we saw...

GypsySarah wrote:The choosing Nick theory would mean that Shawn would have to be involved in the foiler, too. Contract or not, I just do not see that happening. I think Shawn would much rather stick hot coals in his eyes then play along like that.

He might not have any choice....

Depends on what they have to hold over his head for the finale.  If he really was F2 and blew up... They would be able to get him to do almost anything.  And then there's the tasty carrot of being the next Bachelor.  That is if he behaves himself.  

soccermom333 wrote:

Longhornfan wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:^^^ yes but Nick also needs to be kind and wish the happy couple well too.  

I fully expect that Nick will do just that.  

I was only speaking about Kaitlyn, because she is the lead, who apparently has been favoriting negative blogs/bloggers opinions of Nick.  What does she gain from doing that?  To me, that is completely unnecessary and juvenile.  It only fuels more hatred toward Nick on SM.  So, I expected more from her, since this was not her first rodeo.  

So, I think that Nick will take the high road, rather than get down to that same level.  I am pretty sure that he is well aware of everything that has been taking place and will act nice toward both parties.

IMO I am not so sure and positive Nick will do that but I hope so.  I actually hope all three remain cordial because they surely don't have to be friends just kind and respectful to one another.  

IMO, Kaitlyn is the one who will set the tone for how this meeting goes between her and Nick.  I think that Nick will take his cues from her.  

This can go either way.  The ball is in her court.

She can either come out all pissed off, like Andi did, or she can have a positive back and forth conversation with Nick and end things in a friendly manner. BUT, I DO think that Nick deserves to be able to tell his side of things. It is only fair that he get that opportunity. If she is afraid of what he might say, then there must be something that she is hiding. If not, and all the secrets are out there, she shouldn't have anything to worry about.

I would LOVE it if this was the most elaborate prank in reality TV history and K/N had been together and in love this whole time. I don't think that's what happened, because, unfortunately, for the last two years, what you see is what you get with this show. They don't seem to care about spoilers or making the F1 super obvious anymore.

Anyways, I still think that Kaitlyn was very conflicted and possibly had a change of heart during that final week. I think that's partly why she's distancing herself from Nick so much, to show to Shawn and the world that her feelings for Nick were in the past and she's completely moved on from him. It kind of reminds me of how Des was a bit distant and cold to Brooks at their ATFR. Or how Deanna acted towards Graham at the MTA. Or, of course, how Andi was so cold and emotionless towards Nick at their ATFR.

Longhornfan wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:^^^ yes but Nick also needs to be kind and wish the happy couple well too.  

I fully expect that Nick will do just that.  

I was only speaking about Kaitlyn, because she is the lead, who apparently has been favoriting negative blogs/bloggers opinions of Nick.  What does she gain from doing that?  To me, that is completely unnecessary and juvenile.  It only fuels more hatred toward Nick on SM.  So, I expected more from her, since this was not her first rodeo.  

So, I think that Nick will take the high road, rather than get down to that same level.  I am pretty sure that he is well aware of everything that has been taking place and will act nice toward both parties.

Longhorn, I wasn't aware that K was favoriting negative blogs/bloggers... What are her gripes??
Maybe she caught a virus from SWSNBN??
Is EVERYONE allowed a pass on taking the higher road but Nick??

I have not seen Kaitlyn favorite anything negative about Nick. Details please....

chasingpavements wrote:I would LOVE it if this was the most elaborate prank in reality TV history and K/N had been together and in love this whole time. I don't think that's what happened, because, unfortunately, for the last two years, what you see is what you get with this show. They don't seem to care about spoilers or making the F1 super obvious anymore.

Anyways, I still think that Kaitlyn was very conflicted and possibly had a change of heart during that final week. I think that's partly why she's distancing herself from Nick so much, to show to Shawn and the world that her feelings for Nick were in the past and she's completely moved on from him. It kind of reminds me of how Des was a bit distant and cold to Brooks at their ATFR.  Or how Deanna acted towards Graham at the MTA. Or, of course, how Andi was so cold and emotionless towards Nick at their ATFR.

ITA CP... good points!