The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 9 July 13th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

happygolucky wrote:What was the 1. thing that bothered many viewers last year about Nick (aside him spoiling the season pre-show)?
- Nick "saying" to guys that he was a "frontrunner".

The audience turned against Nick in that moment ... "How dare he?!"
- It was because most already believed Andi was going to pick Josh, who she had "chemistry" with, and Nick was perceived as too cocky, for believing that his connection and his love for the Bette was bigger and greater than what she could have with the others, and supposedly the rest of the guys were irritated by his attitude, because he let them know that.

This year, Shawn does the same, maybe he didn't say a word "frontrunner", but he sure made everyone around him aware that he is "The One" ... until Nick.

I don't feel like "criticizing" Shawn ... I just really wonder what all those people who criticized Nick for his behavior last year have to say about Shawn's this time? - Or it is all OK, because he is F1?

Nick's behavior in the "game for the girl" doesn't define who Nick is in his daily life with male acquaintances or women ... still some believe that it should, that it's the reason he was disliked, because he isn't a good guy to hang around with ... an opinion Shawn recently shared ...

... so if I read some stating the same thing but with the name replacement ... instead of Nick, written Shawn ... should that make it even? - all JMHO

stuckinsc wrote:For a season all about sex, this is the least sexy season since SWSNBN.  There is no mystery, there is no build up, just sex.  Yuck!

AllAboutLove wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:The way he said "You're saying she would rather have JARED over me?" definitely had that undertone of superiority and disdain. It's like how he always says things like "If she wanted Nick, I wouldn't want her" or "If she picks you at the end, I'll sleep just fine because I don't want to be with someone looking for that". It's like, he can't admit to even potentially being the "loser". If he loses, it's because he WANTED to. It doesn't even seem to have anything to do with Kaitlyn, just his arrogance that doesn't allow him to fathom that other guys have things to offer too.  

I get that the guy was drunk, but one of his best friends had already been on the show and knew a lot about producer manipulation and interference. He probably watched Chris and Andi's seasons, since he knew so much about Kaitlyn and Nick. I don't know, I just don't buy that he's this totally naive guy who had no idea what was going on.

ITA. Imo, everything seems to come back to Shawn and his feelings.
I cannot get over how he needed reassurance/validation before being told he was the one when confronting K in NYC.
And to the other guys Shawn said that Kaitlyn isn't his type if she chooses Nick/has him on the show in NYC.
All this was before being told he was "the one".
It's why I think that Shawn used his sulking to get Kaitlyn to spend time with him and probably even to get her to say he is the one in SA.
Heck, she is still reassuring Shawn that he is the one in her blogs.

maggieC wrote:I was not even thinking that Shawn might be a wife beater.  I was just referring to his jealousy and possessiveness.  Will he follow her to see what she is doing?  Will he question her every time she goes out with the girls?  He is so insecure and needy.  That would drive me away from him in no time.  JMO

LenaActually wrote:DisneyABC Press has posted some quick vids of the episode:

http://www.disneyabcpress.com/abc/shows/the-bachelorette/episodes/1109/