The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 9 July 13th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

^^I wish we would've seen Kaitlyn with Shawn's dad. And he would've asked the same question he did to Shawn "What the hell is going on here?"

Chris Soules ‏@BachelorTV
Sister's Question: How Many relationships have you had? Kaitlyn: Two....as in too many to count #TheBachelorette

I'm a little surprised at the shade CS is throwing at K. I guess he was wounded that W won Becca and Kaitlyn in the split.

I don't think that's the real Chris Soules.

chasingpavements wrote:I don't think that's the real Chris Soules.

well darn - had me fooled.

I don't know where to put this so I'm putting it here because a lot of people are on this thread right now. Feel free to move it to its proper place!

Molly McAleer periscoped a viewing party tonight (hosted by Amy Kaufman of the LA Times who used to cover the show and live-tweets a lot) that JJ visited and he gave away A LOT of inside scoop, including the fact that the show won't let their "villains" do press, the Amy Schumer interaction was completely edited and sliced together, how JJ knew he would be the villain early-on based off of the questions they asked him in ITM's, and how MTV approached him and Clint to be on one of their shows as a duo.

Watch it on periscope! He actually seems normal and nice hahaha

Interesting! I definitely thought that JJ was one of the people who realized he was cast as a "villian" and decided to just play along with it. I did feel like his AS interactions were edited, because they never really showed much of his stand-up or his rap, so I thought that he was probably much funnier than the show wanted to let on. I also thought he pretty much got along with everyone after Clint left, so he was a pretty weak villian anyways!

He is still the guy that cheated 3 years ago and has a 3 y/o daughter. If you do the math, that means he cheated on his pregnant wife or his wife with a newborn baby. Pretty unforgivable.

Bet2Win wrote:Just now watching Nick's HTD.  Kait sold them a bill of goods if she was truthful at the RC when she said she was in love with one man, and led Nick's family to believe she wouldn't have brought him to the final if she wasn't feeling it.  

So, either she wasn't sure, or she lied to Nick's family, or somewhere Shawn manipulated the situation.  The reason I say Shawn manipulated the situation is there's one thing that MF is consistent on, and that is taking the cast member's words and showing the hypocracy of their words (irony) .  Shawn has accused Nick of being manipulative since he appeared, and Shawn's edit shows that Shawn is the one manipulating Kait with the threat of leaving.  

Shawn's edit this year amazes me, TPTB do not back this couple and do not back Shawn based on the edit. Nick has gotten a much better edit than Shawn IMO

Maddy wrote:Chris Soules ‏@BachelorTV  
Sister's Question: How Many relationships have you had? Kaitlyn: Two....as in too many to count #TheBachelorette

Chris is a jack a@@  IMHO of course.   Please tell me this is not the real Chris.

1funnyfish wrote:I don't know where to put this so I'm putting it here because a lot of people are on this thread right now. Feel free to move it to its proper place!

Molly McAleer periscoped a viewing party tonight (hosted by Amy Kaufman of the LA Times who used to cover the show and live-tweets a lot) that JJ visited and he gave away A LOT of inside scoop, including the fact that the show won't let their "villains" do press, the Amy Schumer interaction was completely edited and sliced together, how JJ knew he would be the villain early-on based off of the questions they asked him in ITM's, and how MTV approached him and Clint to be on one of their shows as a duo.

Watch it on periscope! He actually seems normal and nice hahaha

In a second one she uploaded he goes into why he thinks Nick goes on these shows... because he has so many siblings it's finally a way to make him stand out.... it's SUCH an odd conversation

I just finished watching.

I can't stand Shawn. AT ALL. Do I think he is as hot headed, jealous, intense, nerve wracking and possessive as they are showing him...no I don't but the point is they are editing him this way for a reason. I watch with all my friends who are unspoiled, friends who hate Nick hate him. Because of Shawn they all want Nick to win. I do not see how they are going to redeem Shawn's character (because really that is all he is a character on this silly show).

He showed complete immaturity by going to Nick's room yelling at him for 20 minutes about how he was an a$$hole, manipulative etc. without giving one example. I am big on examples if you are going to accuse me of being something or acting a certain way back that crap up with a valid example. The one thing Nick has brought up about Shawn he had an actual example which Shawn did not deny. Do I think it was Nick's place to say anything no I don't, regardless if you are going to dish it out you better back it up!

What blew my mind was how Shawn actually thought he did the mature thing "acting like a man" and taking to Nick as opposed to behind his back. Being a mature adult who has issue with someone doesn't verbally lash out at them without allowing them to respond, they talk with level heads. And then to bring it up to Kailtyn as if he was the bigger man

Then when Nick goes to his room and actually tried to respond to the accusations that Shawn threw his way he basically tells him to shut up and get the eff out of his place. So let me get this straight in Shawn's eyes he is the bigger man to go to another man's room basically yell at them don't let them respond but then when they go to your room to talk you tell him to get the eff out. Whether it is editing or not TPTB are painting Shawn as a person with serious anger and communication issues, someone who is stubborn to bits, must always be right and will not listen to anyone else.

Onto the families, both great families. Bella crying actually broke my heart. I think that Kailtyn knew it was Shawn the moment he said ILY. She grabbed his face and responded to it so strongly. That is why she broke down because I actually think she thought it might have been Nick until that moment and she realized what Nick's mom said "my thought it why you would bring him all this way to F2 and dump him".

Overall I think that this episode was kind to Nick. I think next will be as well as when Kaitlyn's mom challenges him he is responding with what look like genuine tears.

Regardless of what the true Shawn is like, TPTB are making sure me and my unspoiled friends extremely dislike him.

^^^ My viewing party actually likes shawn and his family, and think Nick will be blindsided. I guess different strokes. I actually think Kait knew it was shawn awhile ago and was crying knowing what she had to do with Nick. I wonder if TPTB offered more money if she let him propose??