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Post by Alanna Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:37 pm

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Alanna wrote:laugh out loud I really wish someone who knew Shawn would post and give us more insight. Like, what is this dude really like? Does he REALLY eat little children for breakfast or is that just a rumor? Questions, questions!

Now Alanna, no one has accused that he eats children for breakfast.  He has shown a temper on the show, he has shown possessiveness on the show.  It isn't like people are picking up on nothing, he has acted this way, I don't think it is the only way he acted but he did do these things and he did also et upset about Jared, so no it wasn't just about Nick.  So why is it so horrible for people to question if what we are being shown about Shawn on the show is genuine or not?

People do the same thing with Nick.  I have read in the last day that he is a narcissist, he is manipulative, even that somehow he was the one to initiate the sex with Kaitlyn.  So it is going both ways.  And some of us have reached out to Nick's family, we have talked with them.  Nick is a really great person in real life and yet, he is still just referred to be many as what his edit shows.  Yes, Nick came back for Kaitlyn, but before that he disappeared for a year, he didn't pursue the fame that the last lead and her F1 did.

So since people keep just judging Nick on his edit, and not what we have been told by those who really know him, is it really that unfair to question Shawn?  
No one has posted about the children eating yet but he's already a threatening borderline Kaitlyn-beater so I assume the kicking puppies and stealing candies from babies up next here in the pipeline.


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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:40 pm

That Shawn's behavior has to be explained/defended/justified at all is one too many red flags for me. jmo

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Post by BlackHalo Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:43 pm

IMO, Shawn's biggest offense is complaining about sweet Jared getting a rose over him. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:48 pm

I think complex people don't come across well on TV. I for one would be crucified if I ever ventured into being a bachelorette. So many sound bites that would be misconstrued and used against me. Smiley I know this. ... and I'm a sweet lady with an artistic temperament and quirky temperament. LOL. So, in view of this, I have all kinds of acceptance and grace towards the poor misunderstood and vilified people on reality TV. I kind of like Nick and Shawn, these ragamuffins and orangatangs ... Smiley

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Post by stuckinsc Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:52 pm

Alanna wrote:
stuckinsc wrote:
Alanna wrote:laugh out loud I really wish someone who knew Shawn would post and give us more insight. Like, what is this dude really like? Does he REALLY eat little children for breakfast or is that just a rumor? Questions, questions!

Now Alanna, no one has accused that he eats children for breakfast.  He has shown a temper on the show, he has shown possessiveness on the show.  It isn't like people are picking up on nothing, he has acted this way, I don't think it is the only way he acted but he did do these things and he did also et upset about Jared, so no it wasn't just about Nick.  So why is it so horrible for people to question if what we are being shown about Shawn on the show is genuine or not?

People do the same thing with Nick.  I have read in the last day that he is a narcissist, he is manipulative, even that somehow he was the one to initiate the sex with Kaitlyn.  So it is going both ways.  And some of us have reached out to Nick's family, we have talked with them.  Nick is a really great person in real life and yet, he is still just referred to be many as what his edit shows.  Yes, Nick came back for Kaitlyn, but before that he disappeared for a year, he didn't pursue the fame that the last lead and her F1 did.

So since people keep just judging Nick on his edit, and not what we have been told by those who really know him, is it really that unfair to question Shawn?  
No one has posted about the children eating yet but he's already a threatening borderline Kaitlyn-beater so I assume the kicking puppies and stealing candies from babies up next here in the pipeline.

Just as Nick was the initiator of the sex, even thought Kaitlyn invited him to her room and then Kaitlyn stood up and asked him into the bedroom. Two sides of the same fandom coin.

Nick can seem to be manipulative to some, to some of us Shawn has been possessive and aggressive. Kaitlyn is surely bringing out the worst in both of these men.

Oh and Nick's crimes have been all against Shawn, but Shawn had his first royal hissy fit because of Jared. A sweet guy who just chose to focus on Kaitlyn and trust her to make the right decision for her. Maybe Shawn should have taken the chance to ask Jared about that instead of getting so pissy that Jared got the rose and a little extra time with Kaitlyn. Especially since she spent all night in your room when she wasn't supposed to, like two to three days before then.

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Post by Alanna Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:57 pm

Okay, personally, I don't think I can compare thinking someone is a manipulative jerk to saying someone is 5 minutes away from domestic violence but different strokes for different folks.

And the hilarious thing is that Kaitlyn got all irritated when Shawn spent 30 seconds talking to Britt and even blogged how much she didn't like it months later. She definitely would have needed to be tethered to something solid and heavy so she didn't run away if their roles were reversed.


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Post by agentcurls Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:58 pm

avoice wrote:I think complex people don't come across well on TV. I for one would be crucified if I ever ventured into being a bachelorette. So many sound bites that would be misconstrued and used against me. Smiley I know this. ... and I'm a sweet lady  with an artistic temperament and quirky temperament. LOL. So, in view of this, I have all kinds of acceptance and grace towards the poor misunderstood and vilified people on reality TV. I kind of like Nick and Shawn, these ragamuffins and orangatangs ... Smiley

Good Post I couldn't agree more.
I can't judge any of these people, for they are put through the ringer and fed to the wolves.

Nick and Shawn are more alike than not. They are both complex characters with many layers, IMO. And as such, they are devisive. I love watching them analyze the situation they're in. The Nick and Shawn show is anything but boring, IMO.


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Post by Guest Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:59 pm

avoice wrote:I think complex people don't come across well on TV. I for one would be crucified if I ever ventured into being a bachelorette. So many sound bites that would be misconstrued and used against me. Smiley I know this. ... and I'm a sweet lady  with an artistic temperament and quirky temperament. LOL. So, in view of this, I have all kinds of acceptance and grace towards the poor misunderstood and vilified people on reality TV. I kind of like Nick and Shawn, these ragamuffins and orangatangs ... Smiley

I just want to give this post a hug. yes

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Post by isittrue Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:16 pm

Some excellent posts avoice and blu. Chiming in that I seriously hope Shawn's family does not read boards posting about his possessive behavior and crazy eyes. I did not like reading bad things about Nick last year and I don't feel good about reading them this year about Shawn, Kait or Nick personally.

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Post by LenaActually Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:20 pm

BlackHalo wrote:IMO, Shawn's biggest offense is complaining about sweet Jared getting a rose over him. Rolling Eyes

And Jared STILL seems super hurt over it. I don't know how he'll recover, tbh:


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Post by citygirl1962 Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:26 pm

isittrue wrote:Some excellent posts avoice and blu.  Chiming in that I seriously hope Shawn's family does not read boards posting about his possessive behavior and crazy eyes.  I did not like reading bad things about Nick last year and I don't feel good about reading them this year about Shawn, Kait or Nick personally.  

I agree. I have watched this show since Trista's season and I always watch it from a perspective of someone outside of the box. I take the positives of what i see and for the most part I have enjoyed Shawn and Kaitlyn even if TPTB has highlighted the sex part so much. I can't imagine what their families feel if they read the boards. But it is fun here to see everyone's take.

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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:32 pm

I think that what is worrisome on even a small level is that, even for guys that are disliked or unpopular, there hasn't been a discussion of possessiveness/aggression/insecurity/trust issues like there has been for Shawn. Therein lies the difference to me. It doesn't mean he is this way at all, but he has chosen his behavior and clearly stated he has trust issues. Imho, insecurity and trust issues are a potent combination that can lead to worrisome behavior.

As much as can be said about other guys (Nick, Josh, Chris Soules even) I just find that Shawn's behavior has been addressed by Kaitlyn herself as well as other pro-fans of Shawn (not on this forum but those who have large SM followers) as justified because he is in love... yet the fact that it has to be justified at all is a red flag to me. Jared's behavior in contrast needs no justification.
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