Ben Higgins - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #2

chasingpavements wrote:Abby Drapper, a blogger, attended the MTA and these are a few things she said about Ben. Have to admit, I'm starting to really like him. (source:abbydrapper.tumblr.com)

- First, these men love each other. A lot. Like, when JJ was in the hot seat and being picked on, Ben H. interrupted to tell everyone that when Ben H. was sent home, JJ reached out and asked if he wanted to grab a beer. Ben H. continued to say that JJ was a great dude, and they were good friends.
- Speaking of breaks from filming… during all of them, the ABC crew came out to not only touch up makeup, but to also bring the Bachelor’s shots of booze. Naturally, for Kaitlyn it was white wine, but the rest of the guys and the Bachelor in Paradise cast in attendance took a shot or two every time the film stopped rolling. I was also told that they had been on a “party bus” prior to arriving to the set. I get it, I was ready for a cocktail after eleven minutes, but I was surprised at how saucy they wanted to be on camera.
Except Ben H. He refused booze through the entire taping. In fact, he was so visibly uncomfortable to be there it fed the crowd. If you watched, you heard some of it last night, but the women in the audience went crazy with cheers and applause any time he did anything. There are some man-(pseudo celeb) hungry women in Los Angeles.

AllAboutLove wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:Abby Drapper, a blogger, attended the MTA and these are a few things she said about Ben. Have to admit, I'm starting to really like him. (source:abbydrapper.tumblr.com)

- First, these men love each other. A lot. Like, when JJ was in the hot seat and being picked on, Ben H. interrupted to tell everyone that when Ben H. was sent home, JJ reached out and asked if he wanted to grab a beer. Ben H. continued to say that JJ was a great dude, and they were good friends.
- Speaking of breaks from filming… during all of them, the ABC crew came out to not only touch up makeup, but to also bring the Bachelor’s shots of booze. Naturally, for Kaitlyn it was white wine, but the rest of the guys and the Bachelor in Paradise cast in attendance took a shot or two every time the film stopped rolling. I was also told that they had been on a “party bus” prior to arriving to the set. I get it, I was ready for a cocktail after eleven minutes, but I was surprised at how saucy they wanted to be on camera.
Except Ben H. He refused booze through the entire taping. In fact, he was so visibly uncomfortable to be there it fed the crowd. If you watched, you heard some of it last night, but the women in the audience went crazy with cheers and applause any time he did anything. There are some man-(pseudo celeb) hungry women in Los Angeles.

Okay... this actually makes me think that Ben H may not want to be lead nor really wanted to be on TBette as time passed.
This was speculated awhile back but honestly, from this perspective I can see Ben just wanting to run away from this show.
It may even explain his stiffness on the show and on MTA.
I actually agree with Abby that Ben may just be uncomfortable with the whole thing.
Just too normal for the Hollywood world, imo.
Most of the other guys have dabbled in modeling, fitness, or acting (Jared, Shawn, Nick, Ben Z, etc,...).
And perhaps he sounds a bit scripted b/c he was....
In fact, the most real I found Ben was when he told Kaitlyn he didn't want to be "spinning his wheels".
Perhaps Ben H just doesn't have the personality to deal with TPTB shenanigans nor want to be a puppet.
He certainly seems uncomfortable doing so, imo.

Next Bachelor NEEDS to be @benhiggi. He is above reproach and will respect the process. Plus my daughter adores him. #TeamBenH

@YouCallMeSassy He is VERY different than Chris. You sadly didn't get to see the @benhiggi we all know and love. ABC knows what they have!

BlackHalo wrote:Interesting tweets from JJ today.
@jjhlane 12 hours ago

Next Bachelor NEEDS to be @benhiggi. He is above reproach and will respect the process. Plus my daughter adores him. #TeamBenH

AllAboutLove wrote:I don't know. I got the feeling that Ben isn't as big a fan of Shawn as his SM or whatever else may suggest otherwise. I think that is just him doing the politically correct thing since he knows K is with Shawn and he is in consideration for next lead.

That Ben H even likes IG posts by Nick says to me that while he may be TB-bros with Shawn he is not a fan of his to the point of sharing Shawn's views on Nick. TWT but I think Ben H probably is not that pro-Shawn or Kaitlyn, imo. I think he saw the whole thing as a bit beneath him, how they went about it.

Even when describing on MTA that Kaitlyn came to the room in SA, Ben said Kailtyn talked with BOTH him and Shawn for 6 hours - "all three of us". Yet Shawn made it seem like it was just him and Kaitlyn talking for 6 hours with him telling the handler/producer offcamera "she came to MY room and we talked for 6-7 hours". No implication that she talked to both guys for 6-7 hours. Ben H set the record straight that HE was there too, and did so on purpose, imo.

Ben said it was when he went to take a shower and came back into the room "Everything stopped. I could tell something happened that I wasn't welcome here."

BlackHalo wrote:^I don't think production would be that desperate to have him sign on when they have Ben Z. there. Unless of course the network is pushing for him.

Interesting tweets from JJ today.



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12h12 hours ago

Next Bachelor NEEDS to be @benhiggi. He is above reproach and will respect the process. Plus my daughter adores him. #TeamBenH

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12h12 hours ago

@YouCallMeSassy He is VERY different than Chris. You sadly didn't get to see the @benhiggi we all know and love. ABC knows what they have!

JJ and Ben are close so I'm sure he would know Ben's status as TB. Ben also fave'd the first tweet though he could just be appreciating his buddies support.

bleuberry wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if they're swapping facial reactions from different portions of the night. I do believe him when he says that's he close with Shawn, I see no reason for him to be faking their friendship.