Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 11 - Fan Forum - ***SLEUTHING - SPOILERS*** - Thread #14

[happygolucky]

Just sharing what I've learned on my own mistakes. Also, there is a lot of discussion going on about Nick in other threads and this year at least there are "milder" towards him, so you might want to give it a look, but just to be prepared ... here is always a safe heaven to run to when things get heavy.
About the foiler/spoiler ... the history repeats and also teaches us, that TPTB don't make such an elaborate plan as we would be capable to come up with. Here is possibile to read many different scenarios and people's ideas of how the season would/could go ... and time and time again, TPTB proves that our imagination/creativity is bigger than theirs. For the love of our beloved.

[Guest]

Just sharing what I've learned on my own mistakes. Also, there is a lot of discussion going on about Nick in other threads and this year at least there are "milder" towards him, so you might want to give it a look, but just to be prepared ... here is always a safe heaven to run to when things get heavy.
About the foiler/spoiler ... the history repeats and also teaches us, that TPTB don't make such an elaborate plan as we would be capable to come up with. Here is possibile to read many different scenarios and people's ideas of how the season would/could go ... and time and time again, TPTB proves that our imagination/creativity is bigger than theirs. For the love of our beloved.

I do agree with you Happy! Very true. I'm living with puppies and rainbows in my mind, but I can't believe someone would be that obsessed with Nick then walk away from that obsession, not even try to continue dating him. I hope we get a good explanation for that in the end.

[Guest]

TopShelf!
We have found the right place as a Nick Chick, this group of sister wives do see Nick in a different perspective than most of the boarder here.

[MonicaJM2001]

Welcome Topshelf!!!!!!!!! I was a N/K  hopeful before the whole SM flirting btw them even started prior to the Bachelorette saga and I just felt like they were meant to be and would be great together! My gut throughout was telling me it was N/K at the end despite RS no pick spoiler. Their chemistry together has not disappointed me and I can even get past all this sex/blog/interview nonsense because imo that type of stuff is meant to mislead anyway. I can go back to Des/Brooks season where it similarly shoved Des LOVES Brooks right down the viewers throat by Ep 6 I believe and her blogs didn't dispute that either. Then with Andi's season, despite what we now know was going on in the after math of that, the blog was painting Nick very favorably and even Chris Harrison blog propped him up. In both those seasons what the show/blogs seemed to indicate ended up not being the case. So all that being said I would still think Nick had a very good F1 chance. THEN.............Snapchat happened. That is the one thing I cannot reason away. I mean I would love for it to be a hoax but that just seems too elaborate even for this show........I can't see Shawn ever agreeing to participate unless they are dangling Bachelor in front of him if he plays along. I am here for Nick no matter what or where this leads and hopefully from afar will get to see him find true happiness with someone who gives him just as much as he gives to the other person in the relationship. I think there are some who really don't like him and then some who just jump on the hate bandwagon to be part of the "cool' crowd. I am not interested in rooting for someone because they are the popular choice if I don't find their personality, etc to my taste. If being in the minority of Nick land is wrong, I don't want to be right!

[MonicaJM2001]

I've seen a few posts in recent days/weeks stating it seems like Nick is trying to look like Shawn with the beard and abs, etc however I just want to point out Nick had a beard January/February of this year before he ever set foot on Kaitlyn's season. He shaved just before going on. As far as abs, he has had those for awhile too. We know from his morning sliding door scene in DR shortly before Andi came over to "break up." I think the abs take everyone by surprise because he doesn't flaunt them very often but I think especially with his history of being a runner, those abs are nothing new. I am hoping he uh lets them breathe more often in the near future.

[Guest]

Thank you Peggy, Monica, Happy and all,

I have scoured the media page and everything I see makes me think that Nick is F1. Her interviews talk about how if she had waited 10 days maybe that would have made it better? (In a questioning way) So she isn't backtracking one bit about having sex with Nick. I think if she were in a relationship with Shawn she would be distancing herself from "the act" with Nick by saying she was caught up in the moment, drank too much, should have known him better, regretted in some way. She is more defending it almost like "of course I did have sex with the man I love, just a little too early because it may have jeopardized other relationships." (This is me reading in to her answers) I just think she is SO comfortable with this almost soft-porn episode with Nick (not that I'm complaining, mind you) that she MUST end up with Nick. I also think that Sharleen's post defending them comes from her knowledge that they are together and deserve to be fully defended, not just brushing it off as "well, sometimes you make a mistake when alcohol and Ireland mix." She really and truly defends them, and that is because I think she likes them, they are friends, and she knows the end result.

The snapchat thing was a ploy.

I will be standing on my own private island waving my Nick flag until I hear something more compelling that makes me think it is Shawn. I just don't see Kaitlyn liking someone who is constantly questioning her, how many times has Shawn said, "Her actions don't match what she is telling me." I think that shows distrust. I don't see her liking that.

[MonicaJM2001]

Thank you Peggy, Monica, Happy and all,

I have scoured the media page and everything I see makes me think that Nick is F1.  Her interviews talk about how if she had waited 10 days maybe that would have made it better?  (In a questioning way) So she isn't backtracking one bit about having sex with Nick.  I think if she were in a relationship with Shawn she would be distancing herself from "the act" with Nick by saying she was caught up in the moment, drank too much, should have known him better, regretted in some way.  She is more defending it almost like "of course I did have sex with the man I love, just a little too early because it may have jeopardized other relationships."  (This is me reading in to her answers)  I just think she is SO comfortable with this almost soft-porn episode with Nick (not that I'm complaining, mind you) that she MUST end up with Nick.  I also think that Sharleen's post defending them comes from her knowledge that they are together and deserve to be fully defended, not just brushing it off as "well, sometimes you make a mistake when alcohol and Ireland mix."  She really and truly defends them, and that is because I think she likes them, they are friends, and she knows the end result.

The snapchat thing was a ploy.  

I will be standing on my own private island waving my Nick flag until I hear something more compelling that makes me think it is Shawn.  I just don't see Kaitlyn liking someone who is constantly questioning her, how many times has Shawn said, "Her actions don't match what she is telling me."  I think that shows distrust.  I don't see her liking that.  

No one in this forum thread will mind you waving that Nick flag . We will wave it along with you wherever Nick ends up

[Guest]

I will be standing on my own private island waving my Nick flag until I hear something more compelling that makes me think it is Shawn.  I just don't see Kaitlyn liking someone who is constantly questioning her, how many times has Shawn said, "Her actions don't match what she is telling me."  I think that shows distrust.  I don't see her liking that.  [/quote]

No one in this forum thread will mind you waving that Nick flag   . We will wave it along with you wherever Nick ends up [/quote]

Thank you Monica! I'll take one for the team and wave the flag despite all evidence to the contrary! Ha! I love what you wrote at the bottom of your post, that is hysterical!

[Guest]

One last thing before I call it a night: The person who spotted the snapchat mistake and posted about it is a Nick fan. I think they set it up for her to out this old or phony snapchat video to pull off the surprise ending of the year! Not sure if it is OK to post this here? It is a public tweet of hers. She seems like a lovely person! If this is not OK, I'll delete.

Graceanne Parks ‏@GraceanneParks Jun 23
Just want to reach my hands up in praise because @viallnicholas28 finally noticed one of my positive tweets about him which he deserves

[MonicaJM2001]

I will be standing on my own private island waving my Nick flag until I hear something more compelling that makes me think it is Shawn.  I just don't see Kaitlyn liking someone who is constantly questioning her, how many times has Shawn said, "Her actions don't match what she is telling me."  I think that shows distrust.  I don't see her liking that.  

No one in this forum thread will mind you waving that Nick flag   . We will wave it along with you wherever Nick ends up [/quote]

Thank you Monica!  I'll take one for the team and wave the flag despite all evidence to the contrary!  Ha!  I love what you wrote at the bottom of your post, that is hysterical!  [/quote]

Thanks it is so true too! Example i should be sleeping right but well...Nick

[stuckinsc]

I personally want Nick and all his evil charm and persuasiveness to overrun an island make a nation and we can all go live with him there. I call chief science officer on the Island of Nick.

[MonicaJM2001]

I personally want Nick and all his evil charm and persuasiveness to overrun an island make a nation and we can all go live with him there. I call chief science officer on the Island of Nick.

That works! Lol

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