Bachelor New Zealand - Art Green - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers* #2

emusha wrote:watched the last epi and can't help but think Art seems lukewarm with every one of the girls during HTDs!

I think he's really feeling the pressure and it's coming through. I think he genuinely doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings and may be struggling with his decisions.

mercieme wrote:GA episode where Poppy was eliminated was this past Weds & robinvi (one of the posters) has uploaded the episode in the links thread. Next week Tuesday, May 5th is fantasy dates with F3, down to F2. Next Weds May 6th is the FRC & finale. We have no idea if there will be a post finale show with Art & his F1 though we have confirmed there will be WTA to be shown at some point not yet announced.

Thanks for the recap. I needed it!

HEA wrote:

emusha wrote:watched the last epi and can't help but think Art seems lukewarm with every one of the girls during HTDs!

I personally thought he was only alive with alysha.
and it sucks because you all know dani is my girl
but i stand with my statement

alysha = man/lover
dani = boyfriend
matilda = husband
poppy = friend (which is now confirmed)

they seem very comfortable physically and they are the most naturally attracted to each other...with Mathilda it looks forced and with Dani it looks like simple physical attraction but this week even with Alysha he seemed withdrawn and closed off

emusha wrote:they seem very comfortable physically and they are the most naturally attracted to each other...with Mathilda it looks forced and with Dani it looks like simple physical attraction but this week even with Alysha he seemed withdrawn and closed off

I think he was uncomfortable because he knew some of the families he will never see them again and he was playing a role and lying.
i think the most real was maybe dani who asked him the real questions and not immediately saw him as the next son in law but I found the shopping spree totally stupid but probably a sponsor thing

totally bored so i will post some pics for all to discuss

first I would like to compare the kind of kisses he has with each

If I look at body language, art is on the receiving hand with matilda and alysha, cannot see clearly with dani
no open mouth with matilda... same kind of kiss as with poppy
but definitely more intimate with alysha and dani

then dani's hair.
at the F4 ceremony she has big pink reflection
then the last 2 episodes, we see her with the same ton freshly dyed platine blonde
however she is not overly tanned... are the ITM taped later after the finale or at F3?
however is it is F3, since her date was sea and sun, she should be more suntanned no? There is no doubt the ITM were not from previous RC. It was very specific to F4.

this is not the kind of visual I would want to see if dani is not F1
It is not a welcome hug.

only matilda and alysha ITM, no dani

please notice that matilda has some peeling red sunburn on her chest
I think we can see some on alysha but not sure
were those IMT taped during their FD or later MTP?
And yes i do not exclude that dani left at F3.

poker face!!!!

so my questions are

1. why the drama with dani at F4? no way arthur did not know dani was into him. they were on top of each other from episode 2 or 3.

2. drama was definitely producers initiative. to give doubts to the audience that even if they kissed non stop, he was hardly into her? really?

3. why dani sounds so happy and bubbly on her ITM. A girl crying at F4 (she is a pawn of the franchise (posted this on twitter and liked by dani), asking to talk right before the rose, means a way out. she has seen first hand and other franchise). so why is she so bubbly? why is she not as suntaned as the 2 others unless it was taped later in auckland? did she recovered that quickly if she was F3? something does not look right

4. the choice of FD

matilda: gondola venice, romeo & juliet, massage as kristie so nothing extra special, kisses like poppy (friend zone)

alysha: nature, country girl so more sensitive for that?, again small plain when it was clearly mentioned she is afraid, so why again? for cuddles? for show? the view seems to be the bedroom patio but could be the diner table?

dani: millionnaire boat, sun, beach, sunset The same kind of FD as in CAN #2. But I saw also the roses in the spa. extra super romantic IMO. The hug he gives her under she shower show a big physical connexion, they have both wet hair too. The kiss at sunset on the boat.

I am puzzled. Honest. I am.
Of course, I am trying to see a way that dani is F1 based on the edits.
I definitely saw producers wishing to give doubts about dani with this stupid talk at RC

The segment when arthur said that he was taken aback about dani's deep feelings... THAT bother me. I am like. The choice of these words? Why aback? It is very possible that he did not expect dani to be so open about her feelings and did not know what to do about it. But he specifically asked her so why taken aback? Taken aback but he picked her anyway so he would be a HUGE A** knowing dani's feeling to continue right? Unless they were always playful together but as alysha said: why not clarify this at the Hometown date? Unless they had no really time to discuss that. I found the shopping spree stupid and definitely a sponsor mark. So no time to discuss I guess. versus alysha on the football place where we saw the intimacy. No such intimacy either with matilda with ken. The goodbye kiss was nice but not passionate. (sorry fans).

Anyone saw poppy trying not to laugh when puri said that she did not get a rose? It was hilarious. She knew the outcome and when he asked dani to go out, it was plain clear she thought WTF?

Even though matilda got the rose and even after dani got the rose she was NOT a happy camper. I think she definitely was upset with producer and saw clearly the manipulation.

I must say that matilda is the girl I wish to have a friend. She showed me many times during this season and after, that she has integrity, she is extremely loyal and sweet. I totally understand why the public fell in love with her. The only thing I fail is the emotional connexion with arthur.

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I really did feel that Art's last scene with Alysha was far more intimate than anything shown with the others.  The way their bodies where intertwined on the blanket, both when her back was to him and later when she faced him, looked very much like a couple. 
I suspect she may want more at the end out of this relationship than he may be looking for.  That would mean she will not be F1.

I also think the time is now for keeping the door open for a possible Bette NZ.  if that's the case, the edit will play to it. 

Yep, I'm confused too 

notarose wrote:^
I really did feel that Art's last scene with Alysha was far more intimate than anything shown with the others.  The way their bodies where intertwined on the blanket, both when her back was to him and later when she faced him, looked very much like a couple. 
I suspect she may want more at the end out of this relationship than he may be looking for.  That would mean she will not be F1.

I also think the time is now for keeping the door open for a possible Bette NZ.  if that's the case, the edit will play to it. 

Yep, I'm confused too 

geez I feel the same.
After the HTD, I was like... alysha has it in the pocket.
but the "talk with dani" was for me stupidly producers oriented and the choice of FD puzzle me as well as the music, the kisses, the 2 out of 3 suntaned girls...
I so so very confused right now.
is it possible that matilda was edited all along to be next bachelorette?
because lets face it... she is as loved as sam was during the aussie show
Alysha next bachelorette? na. I do not see this level of adoration by the fans
dani? why not. She would bring so much fun if it is her

can we move forward faster on may 6 so I can move on? pretty please?