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Post by Bloomers Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:18 pm

Kelad9 wrote:
Bloomers wrote:
bluwavz wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:Can you imagine the backlash if Ashley doesn't choose JP, though. Wow!
Not that Ben isn't a great guy, but most people won't understand that choice at all.

I know. She's already had so much hate thrown at her. no no

I don't know if that is what happens, but I have already shown how there is a little evidence where it COULD be with the rose order in the last 3 episodes as well as the placement. Does it happen? I don't know, but I am keeping an eye out for the possibility...

Also, I tried to also tell you that in my opinion the producers and editors love to FLEISS the audience. How many times do people fall for the favorite only to go, "What????" when the F1 appears? The majority of viewers have virtually no idea of the editing tricks that Fleiss and Co. pulls, and F2 many, many times looks like F1 up to the very end.


Bloomers do you think that Dino may be our Dark Horse? when I go back to rewatch the show in edits it looks like it's always been kind of Dino vs JP. Which is strange since it's been rumored that it's Ben F and JP in the end.

No, I think Dino is out of it. I was fooling around this morning with some trends, and Dino is just last in a list of folks who either leave early and come back or leave before the FD RC and/or both. Sometime when we aren't involved in all of this discussion, I will make this list for you. It's pretty interesting to see it.
Anyway, Ben was described twice as the darkhorse before Dino was.

I think IF and this is an IF Ben is the F1, it is all a matter of the EDIT, and it all goes back again to their purpose which I think is to fool the audience into thinking the F2 is the F1. Usually they do this by playing up the physical connection and the fan favorite connection. Most of the time they are the same.

They played down Roberto. We never even saw Roberto with Ali in the lava cave. Ali said they were steamy. What else did we NOT see with those two? Yet, we saw lots with Chris and her because Chris was the fan favorite.

Now IF and IF Ben turns out to be F1, we are seeing all of it with JP because he is the physical edit and he is the fan favorite with his grin and charisma. If Ben is the F1, they haven't shown you their scenes, just like they didn't show you the fun scenes from his Hometown - just the sad stuff with his mother.
They will have hidden Ben because they want to fool the audience. Why? Who the heck knows? That has been their mode of operation for at least 3/4 of the seasons.


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Post by mnmhughes Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:17 pm

nutty1 wrote:37 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » Bebe_o2 Bebe O
@ @RealitySteve I think this is what it is....Ashley sends Ben home b/4 their final date but he still shows up on d day of d final ROSE..IMO..

He replied...
@Bebe_o2 No. Not even close.

So now he's responding to random theories? Well let's start tweeting him then! Every random theory we can think of! :awesome:
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Post by sjcaligurl Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:17 pm

If he's wrong, what other details does he need. Either he has the F1 right or he doesn't ... I think some hoochie is about to emerge. LOL!

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Post by nutty1 Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:17 pm

37 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply » Bebe_o2 Bebe O
@ @RealitySteve I think this is what it is....Ashley sends Ben home b/4 their final date but he still shows up on d day of d final ROSE..IMO..

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@Bebe_o2 No. Not even close.


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Post by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:16 pm

anders wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:If he is going to admit he is wrong, wouldn't he wait until after the ATFR is taped before he admits it?

why?? If he's wrong, and if there was a switcheroo he will want to get that scoop before anyone else can.

Exactly... because in his eyes... he is still giving the info before it airs. And in a way, he is right.

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Post by Guest Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:16 pm

anders wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:If he is going to admit he is wrong, wouldn't he wait until after the ATFR is taped before he admits it?

why?? If he's wrong, and if there was a switcheroo he will want to get that scoop before anyone else can.

If he was wrong, why wouldn't he have made the post today? Instead of waiting?

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Post by Kelad9 Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:15 pm

cupcakes wrote:
What happened last season?

Brad and Emily broke up a few times while the show was airing
Laurel was on the attack
Chantal/Emily switch at the last minute
Brad/Emily not really getting along at the ATFR
TPTB tried to get Brad and Emily to marry for the ATFR special
Anything else?

Forgot to add
-last season the lead told the F1 that he was falling for her before the FRC.
-Brad's family all loving Emily over Chantal.


I see this option or the wedding at AFR the most likely scenarios out of this season..


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Post by anders Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:15 pm

mnmhughes wrote:If he is going to admit he is wrong, wouldn't he wait until after the ATFR is taped before he admits it?

why?? If he's wrong, and if there was a switcheroo he will want to get that scoop before anyone else can.


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Post by sjcaligurl Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:14 pm

nutty1 wrote:the "totally agree" could be because he knows he wasn't wrong.

I agree because he knows he's going to continue to 'spoil' things no matter what.

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Post by bluwavz Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:14 pm

Kelad9 wrote:
sjcaligurl wrote:When I told him he needed to hang it up if he was wrong again, he agreed. When people accused him of being tricked by fleiss and always wrong, he got defensive.

I tweeted him about an ex and he didn't reply.

When he agreed with you, I think that's my clue that he may have gotten the F1 wrong. I don't fault him at all for that. His source on the other hand I do fault. He's not going to be able to 100% trust that source in the future and while that's bad for him, I look at that as a good thing for us sleuthers that means we can continue sleuthing even when he does give us all his spoilers that he knows of.

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Post by mnmhughes Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:13 pm

If he is going to admit he is wrong, wouldn't he wait until after the ATFR is taped before he admits it?
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Post by anders Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:13 pm

nutty1 wrote:the "totally agree" could be because he knows he wasn't wrong.

or it could be because he knows he is wrong - unfortunately, he's not going to give us anything one way or the other on a switcheroo. Too bad he isn't giving us a riddle to go with it.



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