RS Wrong Again????

Beeleever wrote:I can only speak for myself when I say, it is an insult to my intelligence when it is implied that the only reason why I may be supporting someone is because RS spoils they win. Because of the last two seasons and RS getting them wrong, that couldn't be further from the truth. I would never question anyone's right to see things through their unique lens and perspective or the fact that they cannot think clearly for themselves. Just sayin...

Now I'll go back to obscurity on this subject because I refuse to participate in a barrage of negativity over a reality TV show.

You can speak on my behalf as well. Based on RS' past missteps, I find myself trying to figure out the plotline on my own (of course with guidance from this board's wonderful people). If it's not a love story I'm seeing develop with Ashley and JP, Ashley should quit dentistry and head to Hollywood ASAP...she's an amazing actress!
I firmly believe that Ashley picks JP in the end. Are they together now? I don't know but feel that they are. When all is said and done, I don't see a Ben/Ash ending to this. (If so, my apology will come tomorrow).

Titou - AshS's twitter is [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

ninu wrote:

Diana wrote:

ninu wrote:Diana - was digging through AshS's tweets... sounds to me like her reaction to you basically meant JP = F1 I'll wait for you to post them if you want to

Wait what? You can post which replies your talking about.

xdianalynn Diana
Well JP and Ashley was fun while it lasted. Congratulations to Ben. My heart hurts for JP @ashhebert @AshleySpivey
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@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn what do you mean?

xdianalynn Diana
@AshleySpivey Oh sorry that was supposted to be Ben's twitter not yours but I think Ashley choose Ben based on what steve just tweeted.
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@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn like I said earlier - people make stuff up all the time! Who knows what to believe anymore!


Sure sounds like Ash still thinks JP is F1 to me


ETA: For people who thought Ash put the picture of her from the Jabbawockeez date on her twitter profile as a shout-out to Ben - it's now a picture of her from the wrestling group date - no Ben on this date, but JP. I guess the field is even again

Ashley S is such a sweetheart :D

ninu wrote:

Diana wrote:

ninu wrote:Diana - was digging through AshS's tweets... sounds to me like her reaction to you basically meant JP = F1 I'll wait for you to post them if you want to

Wait what? You can post which replies your talking about.

xdianalynn Diana
Well JP and Ashley was fun while it lasted. Congratulations to Ben. My heart hurts for JP @ashhebert @AshleySpivey
6 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn what do you mean?

xdianalynn Diana
@AshleySpivey Oh sorry that was supposted to be Ben's twitter not yours but I think Ashley choose Ben based on what steve just tweeted.
6 hours ago
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@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn like I said earlier - people make stuff up all the time! Who knows what to believe anymore!


Sure sounds like Ash still thinks JP is F1 to me


ETA: For people who thought Ash put the picture of her from the Jabbawockeez date on her twitter profile as a shout-out to Ben - it's now a picture of her from the wrestling group date - no Ben on this date, but JP. I guess the field is even again

Can you please share the nickname of ashley tweeter please?

BlondieGal wrote:Ashley S posted this 7 hours ago ~

I wanna work at a tabloid so I can just make stuff up all day and have millions of readers that think it's the truth! Fun! #sarcastictweets about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone from New York, NY
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I saw that! I think she may have posted it before RS posted his tweet? I was wondering if she had heard that something would be coming out soon. This may also explain why Ash herself said in her latest interview how the tabloids have no ounce of truth in them.

I doubt Ashley S is tweeting any clues. I don't think she even knows who Ashley picked but does know about RS and his spoilers. Maybe that's why she's been more pro-JP this season.

Coastal wrote:

sunshineandshit wrote:If Ben is F1, that's the most surprising F1 they've ever had. I thought Roberto and Emily were obvious so JP being so obvious didn't seem strange to me. I still think JP is F1 but I'll have to wait and see what RS says in his blog tomorrow.

Is it obvious that JP was the final 1 or is it because he was spoiled to be the F1 and therefore people that watched only concentrated on his connection with Ash and on no one elses. Actually to the point that if anyone won but JP, there would be such a backlash because these watchers didn't actually watch the show with a clean slate so to speak.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a logical fallacy that states that since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one.

Or to put it more simply, A occurred (RS spoiled JP) then B (JP became a fan favorite and most believed to be F1) occurred. Therefore, A (RS spoiled JP) caused B (JP became a fan favorite and most believed to be F1).

BTW - it's also the title of an excellent The West Wing episode with the following exchange:

President Josiah Bartlet: 27 lawyers in the room. Anybody know "Post hoc, ergo propter hoc"? Josh?
Josh Lyman: Uh, uh, "post" - after, after hoc, "ergo" - therefore, "After hoc, therefore" something else hoc.
President Josiah Bartlet: Thank you. Next?
Josh Lyman: Well, if I had gotten more credit on the 443...
President Josiah Bartlet: Leo?
Leo McGarry: "After it therefore because of it."
President Josiah Bartlet: "After it therefore because of it." It means one thing follows the other, therefore it was caused by the other. But it's not always true. In fact, it's hardly ever true.

Beeleever wrote:I can only speak for myself when I say, it is an insult to my intelligence when it is implied that the only reason why I may be supporting someone is because RS spoils they win. Because of the last two seasons and RS getting them wrong, that couldn't be further from the truth. I would never question anyone's right to see things through their unique lens and perspective or the fact that they cannot think clearly for themselves. Just sayin...

Now I'll go back to obscurity on this subject because I refuse to participate in a barrage of negativity over a reality TV show.

you and me both I watched 3 episodes unspoiled and JP was in my top 4 at first, and in my top 2 before reading spoilers....and Ben? I was shocked he made it past the first night, never mind hearing he was F2 . First and foremost, I want JP to be F1 because I see the connection and just love a romantic ending that I approve of. There's other reasons too but I'll leave them unsaid.

Ashley S posted this 7 hours ago ~

I wanna work at a tabloid so I can just make stuff up all day and have millions of readers that think it's the truth! Fun! #sarcastictweets about 7 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone from New York, NY
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Beeleever wrote:I can only speak for myself when I say, it is an insult to my intelligence when it is implied that the only reason why I may be supporting someone is because RS spoils they win. Because of the last two seasons and RS getting them wrong, that couldn't be further from the truth. I would never question anyone's right to see things through their unique lens and perspective or the fact that they cannot think clearly for themselves. Just sayin...

Now I'll go back to obscurity on this subject because I refuse to participate in a barrage of negativity over a reality TV show.

I agree, it's very insulting. And might I add that based on so many comments I have read along the lines of "I am desperately hoping for RS to be wrong", I find it equally likely that some of the people who think Ben is F1, despite many viewers seeing no chemistry between him and Ash, believe this for no other reason than because of their desire to root against the spoiler.

Beeleever wrote:I can only speak for myself when I say, it is an insult to my intelligence when it is implied that the only reason why I may be supporting someone is because RS spoils they win. Because of the last two seasons and RS getting them wrong, that couldn't be further from the truth. I would never question anyone's right to see things through their unique lens and perspective or the fact that they cannot think clearly for themselves. Just sayin...

Now I'll go back to obscurity on this subject because I refuse to participate in a barrage of negativity over a reality TV show.

Diana wrote:

ninu wrote:Diana - was digging through AshS's tweets... sounds to me like her reaction to you basically meant JP = F1 I'll wait for you to post them if you want to

Wait what? You can post which replies your talking about.

xdianalynn Diana
Well JP and Ashley was fun while it lasted. Congratulations to Ben. My heart hurts for JP @ashhebert @AshleySpivey
6 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn what do you mean?

xdianalynn Diana
@AshleySpivey Oh sorry that was supposted to be Ben's twitter not yours but I think Ashley choose Ben based on what steve just tweeted.
6 hours ago
in reply to ↑
@AshleySpivey
Ashley S.
@xdianalynn like I said earlier - people make stuff up all the time! Who knows what to believe anymore!


Sure sounds like Ash still thinks JP is F1 to me


ETA: For people who thought Ash put the picture of her from the Jabbawockeez date on her twitter profile as a shout-out to Ben - it's now a picture of her from the wrestling group date - no Ben on this date, but JP. I guess the field is even again