RS Wrong Again????

noobsleuth wrote:I just wanna know so I can move on with my life!!! LOL

I know, right? :laughingoutlou

I just wanna know so I can move on with my life!!! LOL

My unspoiled viewers either think Ashley will pick no one since they don't see any chemistry at all between Ashley and any of the guys.
Then 1 or 2 of them likes JP and thinks it's going to be JP because the edit is so obvious. (i had nothing to do with influencing them on that since they've asked me to not spoil them this year). But they also like Ben F for themselves. LOL
I like all of the Final 3 guys so would be perfectly happy with whoever Ashley chooses for herself. I prefer jp for myself
Please continue posting your thoughts and opinions. I like reading everyone's different opinions here. There are some days when I am 100% sure it's JP but then when someone points something out about Ben, it makes me think. I also see some stuff in edits regarding Constantine so it's good to have rounded views on each and every edit here IMO.

gurlbrit wrote:

Cari wrote:If one checks the #bachelorette timeline especially while the show is on air, you'll see that most unspoiled viewers thinks it is JP.



I for one watched the first few episodes before finding out the spoilers. I believe i've common sense and simple logic to form my own opinion. Why is it insisted that a JP fan believes he is F1 because of some infamous blogger? WHY?!

I twisted the arm of my unspoiled friend by making her watch the 8 episodes straight. My questions were simple: "who do you want for yourself and who do you think Ash's F1".

on episode 5 "i like Mickey and Ames! William is annoying!"

She called me up at episode 6, "It's JP that Ash chooses!"
I asked how about Ben F? She answered, "Ben F who?"

At episode 7, she texted me, "i'm torn between Ben F and JP. I'll decide at episode 8"

At episode 8, she was so smittened with Ben F

but for her it is clear, Ash chooses JP"

Why is it often reiterated that viewers see JP as F1 BECAUSE of RS? WHY?!

As someone posted upthread, it is insulting. And then we wonder why our posts are met with sarcasm?

Lemme borrow, "just sayin"

ETA

i agree that one's poster can be passionate with his/her point/s of view that is why a heated discussion is inevitable. It happens in whatever forum.

However, we do not need the supreme court to see if one's posts are neutral or not.

Please let us not claim to be neutral if you are not prepared to have all your posts scrutinized.

"just sayin"

One of the biggest problems I see is that we have ppl with many sources. Blondiegal is always complete dispassionate when she posts what her sources have told her. On another hand Coastal has made it abundantly clear that she is not dispassionate. In order to be credible as a provider of spoilers you have to disassociate yourself from who it is you WANT to win.RS doesn't care who wins, he provides the information he has been given and that is it. However, RS does have "a horse in this race", his horse is his website and income from said website. Coastal continues to do the same but not in a dispassionate manner. Only time will tell whether Coastal's or RS's sources are correct.

Sorry, but where is the rule that you have to be dispassionate about the ending??????????????????

That is houey!! I am passionate as it bothers the heck out of me that that as of late there are some posters that are made to feel unwelcome here because of this turning into a JP love site..........shame that those posters have had to leave.

Cari wrote:If one checks the #bachelorette timeline especially while the show is on air, you'll see that most unspoiled viewers thinks it is JP.



I for one watched the first few episodes before finding out the spoilers. I believe i've common sense and simple logic to form my own opinion. Why is it insisted that a JP fan believes he is F1 because of some infamous blogger? WHY?!

I twisted the arm of my unspoiled friend by making her watch the 8 episodes straight. My questions were simple: "who do you want for yourself and who do you think Ash's F1".

on episode 5 "i like Mickey and Ames! William is annoying!"

She called me up at episode 6, "It's JP that Ash chooses!"
I asked how about Ben F? She answered, "Ben F who?"

At episode 7, she texted me, "i'm torn between Ben F and JP. I'll decide at episode 8"

At episode 8, she was so smittened with Ben F

but for her it is clear, Ash chooses JP"

Why is it often reiterated that viewers see JP as F1 BECAUSE of RS? WHY?!

As someone posted upthread, it is insulting. And then we wonder why our posts are met with sarcasm?

Lemme borrow, "just sayin"

ETA

i agree that one's poster can be passionate with his/her point/s of view that is why a heated discussion is inevitable. It happens in whatever forum.

However, we do not need the supreme court to see if one's posts are neutral or not.

Please let us not claim to be neutral if you are not prepared to have all your posts scrutinized.

"just sayin"

WOW.............I see that you don't like my saying, but I was calling it as I saw it. Sorry that is met with venom.

What is insulting is that there are posters on here that feel that they can't post what they want due to their words and positive comments about the connections between Ash and Ben turned into a negative and positives were put forward about JP instead........Some of those posters no longer come to the other threads as they either stay in the Ben thread or have left the board all together until the season ends. I never thought that this was a JP fansite board but it has turned that way according to some posters that have decided not to deal with all the heavy's around here........really too bad as it is a shame that they have felt that way.

I see my saying is now being used against me in a few posts so I gather it is unwelcome around here too.......

Yes, I am not as neutral as I was in the beginning but that is due to what my sources have said........I believe them and yes, that is why I have taken different looks at the editing, past season FD/LCD patterns and so on.....Just because a spoiler comes out, does that mean that we shouldn't research how the edit is currently going in the current season and see how the similiarities line up for a different ending than the spoiler.......I thought that is a part of sleuthing.........not to ignore all patterns and points to be made. I have made those points in a post to find them scrutenized and easily vented off as being not important..........

I find it extremely disappointing that the posters that use to post here in the beginning have wavered and some have even left due to some forums turning into a JP love fest that posters don't feel welcome posting there if they are not JP supporters........that is the real shame here!!!!!!!!!

As far as your claim that the majority of unspoiled watchers are choosing JP, I think you need to check some more sources before you make claims like that...........completely wrong!!

gm morning all

anyone have a clue when
RS is supposed to clarify his
comment from yesterday

needs another cup of the java
sleepy poo :lovecoffee:

I hope RS's source is correct sorry Coastal

Cari wrote:If one checks the #bachelorette timeline especially while the show is on air, you'll see that most unspoiled viewers thinks it is JP.



I for one watched the first few episodes before finding out the spoilers. I believe i've common sense and simple logic to form my own opinion. Why is it insisted that a JP fan believes he is F1 because of some infamous blogger? WHY?!

I twisted the arm of my unspoiled friend by making her watch the 8 episodes straight. My questions were simple: "who do you want for yourself and who do you think Ash's F1".

on episode 5 "i like Mickey and Ames! William is annoying!"

She called me up at episode 6, "It's JP that Ash chooses!"
I asked how about Ben F? She answered, "Ben F who?"

At episode 7, she texted me, "i'm torn between Ben F and JP. I'll decide at episode 8"

At episode 8, she was so smittened with Ben F

but for her it is clear, Ash chooses JP"

Why is it often reiterated that viewers see JP as F1 BECAUSE of RS? WHY?!

As someone posted upthread, it is insulting. And then we wonder why our posts are met with sarcasm?

Lemme borrow, "just sayin"

ETA

i agree that one's poster can be passionate with his/her point/s of view that is why a heated discussion is inevitable. It happens in whatever forum.

However, we do not need the supreme court to see if one's posts are neutral or not.

Please let us not claim to be neutral if you are not prepared to have all your posts scrutinized.

"just sayin"

One of the biggest problems I see is that we have ppl with many sources. Blondiegal is always complete dispassionate when she posts what her sources have told her. On another hand Coastal has made it abundantly clear that she is not dispassionate. In order to be credible as a provider of spoilers you have to disassociate yourself from who it is you WANT to win.

RS doesn't care who wins, he provides the information he has been given and that is it. However, RS does have "a horse in this race", his horse is his website and income from said website. Coastal continues to do the same but not in a dispassionate manner. Only time will tell whether Coastal's or RS's sources are correct.

JP is final one no doubt about it ( Brad sort de ce corps)

vivalameagx3 wrote:Has the idea that Constantine could be the next Bachelor been hashed out? Ashley came in third like Constantine so that could be the reference to last season. RS has been so sure about the F1 this season, I just don't see him changing his tune at the last minute.

Sorry, but RS was equally as sure of his F1 spoiler last season and we all know how that turned out.

cfck2222 wrote:

BlondieGal wrote:Whoops, thank you for the weather vs flying cfck. I stand corrected. Actually Laurel was flown out to LA for her tabloid story.

Right but Laurel was somewhere in Texas. The tabloids all have offices in New York so if they wanted to conduct interviews and do photo shoots with people in New York, they would do them there. I also think tabloids would be more likely to take on expenses like that for a more popular season like Brad's.

But, I don't really think that's what's going on here because if it were then there wouldn't be much difference between that situation and Ed's from Jillian's situation, except for the lack of midseason departure. It wouldn't be something specific to Brad's season. To match Brad's season it would be the lead, Ashley who was pointed to in the scandal and that doesn't seem all that likely. But we'll see.

ironcat wrote:I think that he dated Laney since then, and maybe as recently as a few months before he left to do the show.

The New York Times article on her blog about the faux club was from early 2009 and said she'd recently broken up with a real estate investor. If that's JP then she's been out of the picture for more than 2 years.

I also want to agree with the point that's been made about how it's really disappointing when other would-be spoiler-bringers insult the intelligence of the people who disagree with them just like RS does.

As far as to similate Brad's season with the ex's that would mean that one of Ashley's ex's would of had to come forward..........therefore the only other thing that makes sense with what RS said about like Brad's season would be for RS to be wrong about the F1 and it is actually Ben.

albean99 wrote:

noobsleuth wrote:Wow gone all day and I come back to this!

Uhh... Pretty much with everyone else.
1. Wrong F1 ... does this mean JP is the next Bach? Oh be still my heart. Yes please... can married women sign up? KIdding!
2. ATFR Wedding/lack thereof
3. Laney is coming out with something really incriminating. (Laurel part 2)

Don't think there is trouble in paradise at all. Emily stopped doing vblogs after her first 1 on 1 probably because this is when they started arguing. JP and Ben have consistently doing them. So whoever Ash is with I strongly feel they are still together.

I can only speak for myself but... if Ben is F1 they did a complete disservice to him and Ash this season and also us (the fans). Ben was no where to be seen with Ashley until the episode 4 orphanage date and no one can argue with that. We have never seen their first kiss, we have never seen Ben comfort her on the Roast date (when her insecurities came to the forefront) and we have never seen Ben's reaction to Bentley. CH literally told us that on Ben's HTD they had a blast together in the market however, TPTB felt it more important to show Ben's path of healing instead of his time with Ashley. The post show behavior of the two aside. Never has an F1 been hidden until episode 4. I'm not so crazy to assume that the story and edit has been pointing to JP as F1 am I? LOL

It's actually a normal edit for this show. There's always someone who brings the drama into it early on. Every season there's one. This time there was one who also was someone the lead really really liked. I think they went too far with this one but if you watched Byron's season it was Jane who started out as the frontrunner but went a little crazy, Jesse's it was Trish, Jillian's it was Wes and there was the David Good/Juan man code stuff, Ali's it was the wrestler guy with Frank to take over from him, etc etc. The ones who end up being the f1 are around but not always featured as much as the others. Ben may be a little more hidden than most but there was the Bentley stuff and making JP the frontrunner right after he left. I also believe that Ben really stood out at the orphanage date so they decided to wait to feature him.

If it's Ben, there is plenty to see why but agree there could have been a lot more. Even if he's f2 I don't know why they didn't show more because don't they want the f2 appear to be the frontrunner?

Great points bean..........lots of JP's edit screams F2.