The Bachelorette 11 - Screen Caps - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

So how does that change everyone's view of things if she meet Shawn/Alf's family first? Why put so much effort into making Nick's family feel good if she had already met her in-laws, kind of cruel and mean IMO.

I think that scene in the car could've been filmed whenever, since I doubt she came from the airport to meet Shawn. If they're staying at the resort, then I think she would've been there already. It might've just been better weather or light to film it.

What I find interesting are the ITM's they show during the HTD's. Almost all of them are filmed at some other location (the mansion?) at a later date. I mean the ones where she's sitting on the left side of the screen and there's some purple thing behind her. Really only the ITM's they show after each date are from the actual day of the dates, and after Nick's she's glowing and looks like she's been making out for ages. After Shawn's she's a crying mess.

So glowworm, that does support that Shawn's family date was first and Nick's second.  Which means that the podcast with the past producer Jason was correct that Kaitlyn did breakdown after her date with Shawn.  And the breakdown was independent of her family date with Nick as it had not happened yet.  So at least at this point, I think that Kaitlyn was still all in with both guys...maybe moreso with Nick as she didn't break down after her date with him and instead ended their time together making out.

I'm kind of lost.
Does it really matter what order she saw the parents? The only thing I noticed that would seem to matter is that we were shown extra time with Nick that day in the hotel bedroom and them snuggling. However, that may have also happened with Shawn and the viewer didn't get to see that.

Kashathediva wrote:I'm kind of lost.
Does it really matter what order she saw the parents? The only thing I noticed that would seem to matter is that we were shown extra time with Nick that day in the hotel bedroom and them snuggling. However, that may have also happened with Shawn and the viewer didn't get to see that.

It matters because the edit made it appear that Kaitlyn's breakdown was due to her deliberating between the two men after having had both family dates, when it could have been just after Shawn's family date. She ended the family date with Shawn with tears alone in her room. And she ended the family date with Nick inviting him to her room for a snuggling session where she made him promise to love her. At this point, she was still all in with both guys and IMO even moreso with Nick.

stuckinsc wrote:So how does that change everyone's view of things if she meet Shawn/Alf's family first?  Why put so much effort into making Nick's family feel good if she had already met her in-laws, kind of cruel and mean IMO.

I personally think she was torn and maybe she was leaning towards Nick at one point but chose Shawn.

All leads lead the families to believe their child is the chosen one imo

Just watching the show I would have thought she picked Nick, at least at this point, but I do believe the spoilers. Why show things in a new order? In this case, if it was shown in the wrong order it could be to spare Kaitlyn. If she already knew it was S all the way at this point it would have been cruel of her to say the things she said to both Nick's mom and Nick. (Extra so if that occurred after meeting Shawn's family.)JMO

It is nothing new for them to switch up order of HTD, FD, MTP or LCD. Why they do it, IDK.

Just going to bring this forward.  The whole FRC Epi preview is SC'd.  Feel free to use, post and sleuth with them as needed/wanted.

Ladybug82 wrote:FRC SCs are up:  SC No Discussion Thread  

I didn't bother SC'ing the MTA.  I've been trying to grab a few more SC's of the rings in motion to get different angles, but its so quick, all I get is blur.  If I get any other decent SC's of the rings, I'll post them later.

I just think it's going to be a tough pill for Shawn to swallow when he views this - he may feel like he wasn't the true F1 after all.

I wonder if Shawn and Kait had some WORDS after his ily because he said he was disappointed she didn't say it back, he didn't open the door/walk her out, which was a little unShawn-like in his usual treatment of Kait, and then she went to her room and cried. Of course if there was another confrontation, we likely would have seen it so maybe not.

They switch things up all the time, I agree. They want to sell a story. With the HTD they made it look like K met N and his family first and then S. I saw a happy and relaxed K with N. I saw her telling Nick's mom that she had taken in consideration that Nick had been through this last season "I'm telling you I wouldn't do if I didn't see a future with Nick, I really wouldn't " When Nick says "ILY", she says "promise". IF all this might be after she met S and looked so giddy and all in, she would appear very cold hearted. I mean she had Nick as a friend and mentor before the show. Even if she was just in the moment it would seem brutal. JMO