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Post by Ladybug82 Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:10 pm

We don't know what is revealed that is scandalous.  

Didn't we place Nick in Cork, either through sleuthing while filming, the season premier, or both?  Its all a jumble in my head now and I haven't taken time to dig back threw old threads to find how we got the info.  

Anyway, we know Nick has a date in Cork, (AAL mentioned his outfit in her post upthread).  That's where the first FS/overnight date takes place according to the episode description.   I don't think we have anything placing Shawn in Cork.  So, by that, its thought that the first FS/overnight date is indeed Nick's date and that would make him the one to reveal the scandalous info on someone.  Then, the episode description goes on to say that the one that gets the first FS date gets into a feud with another guy after returning from his date.  We know from the epi 8 preview that Nick and Shawn have words.

So, again, we're guessing, assuming and connecting dots between SC's and the episode descriptions, so we could be wrong, but.. its believed that Nick reveals something about Shawn and that somehow leads to the Nick vs. Shawn showdown we saw in the previews.  The thing I'm wondering is, is whatever their showdown is about because of the reveal of info in the FS or something else (the pre-FS action, build up of emotions during filming and get into it, etc.).  Because I only see a couple ways it could play out, for the sit down to have occurred that quickly after Nick returned:

(1) K would've had to go straight to Shawn after Nick's FS to discuss the info
(2) production had a hand in it stirring the pot to cause it
(3) Nick decided to tell Shawn, himself that he'd releaved something about him (Shawn) to K
(4) Shawn decides to confront Nick for some reason 

And as others have mentioned, the F3 normally are separated at this point.  So, did TPTB leave them together to cause more drama or did the guys seek each other out to talk, fight or whatever they do?

Does that makes sense or did I confuse y'all as much as I did myself last night trying to piece together that episode description with the epi 8 preview SC's?  giggling

ETA:  
Kaitlyn’s first overnight date with one of the smitten bachelors takes them to the charming town of Cork, Ireland. One of the locals shares that the secret to a long marriage is “trust,” which resonates with the couple. But the drama of this season continues to mount as this man reveals something scandalous about one of the other bachelors. How will Kaitlyn react?

But this bachelor’s bliss is cut short. The next day, he is caught in a huge feud with one of the other men and there is no way of telling how these hostilities will be resolved or how they will affect Kaitlyn.
Source:  Episode Description
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Post by OnePromise Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:32 pm

There is an article mentioned in one of the other threads that Shawn asks for Nick's room number and goes to confront him about whatever the scandalous information is. It sounds like Nick told Kaitlyn something on their date and she goes right back to Shawn to discuss it, leading to him confronting Nick.

But the preview showed Shawn saying something like, "get out of my face..." Why would he say that if he is confronting Nick? Would it have to be the other way around? Still confusing...

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Post by LenaActually Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:43 pm

OnePromise wrote:
But the preview showed Shawn saying something like, "get out of my face..."  Why would he say that if he is confronting Nick? Would it have to be the other way around?  Still confusing...

Shawn also says "You're the last person I want to talk to." Which makes me think the confrontation wasn't his idea. And it kinda sounds to me like he could be saying, "Why don't you get the %$& out of my place right now, not "face."
Another clue that way suggest Nick approached him in order to talk.
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Post by leselihau Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:45 pm

Ladybug82 wrote:We don't know what is revealed that is scandalous.  

Didn't we place Nick in Cork, either through sleuthing while filming, the season premier, or both?  Its all a jumble in my head now and I haven't taken time to dig back threw old threads to find how we got the info.  

Anyway, we know Nick has a date in Cork, (AAL mentioned his outfit in her post upthread).  That's where the first FS/overnight date takes place according to the episode description.   I don't think we have anything placing Shawn in Cork.  So, by that, its thought that the first FS/overnight date is indeed Nick's date and that would make him the one to reveal the scandalous info on someone.  Then, the episode description goes on to say that the one that gets the first FS date gets into a feud with another guy after returning from his date.  We know from the epi 8 preview that Nick and Shawn have words.

So, again, we're guessing, assuming and connecting dots between SC's and the episode descriptions, so we could be wrong, but.. its believed that Nick reveals something about Shawn and that somehow leads to the Nick vs. Shawn showdown we saw in the previews.  The thing I'm wondering is, is whatever their showdown is about because of the reveal of info in the FS or something else (the pre-FS action, build up of emotions during filming and get into it, etc.).  Because I only see a couple ways it could play out, for the sit down to have occurred that quickly after Nick returned:

(1) K would've had to go straight to Shawn after Nick's FS to discuss the info
(2) production had a hand in it stirring the pot to cause it
(3) Nick decided to tell Shawn, himself that he'd releaved something about him (Shawn) to K
(4) Shawn decides to confront Nick for some reason 

And as others have mentioned, the F3 normally are separated at this point.  So, did TPTB leave them together to cause more drama or did the guys seek each other out to talk, fight or whatever they do?

Does that makes sense or did I confuse y'all as much as I did myself last night trying to piece together that episode description with the epi 8 preview SC's?  giggling

ETA:  
Kaitlyn’s first overnight date with one of the smitten bachelors takes them to the charming town of Cork, Ireland. One of the locals shares that the secret to a long marriage is “trust,” which resonates with the couple. But the drama of this season continues to mount as this man reveals something scandalous about one of the other bachelors. How will Kaitlyn react?

But this bachelor’s bliss is cut short. The next day, he is caught in a huge feud with one of the other men and there is no way of telling how these hostilities will be resolved or how they will affect Kaitlyn.
Source:  Episode Description

As per the bolded...uh YES! That's what TPTB do, imo!

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Post by Alanna Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:53 pm

So I guess Shawn told Kait something about Nick and Kait tells Nick who goes to confront Shawn?? What a freaking mess of things!!! Why is Kait the most incompetent lead in the world? Yet she has awesome ratings, so the worse they are, the better for the show.


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Post by Luvstruck Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:58 pm

OnePromise wrote:There is an article mentioned in one of the other threads that Shawn asks for Nick's room number and goes to confront him about whatever the scandalous information is.  It sounds like Nick told Kaitlyn something on their date and she goes right back to Shawn to discuss it, leading to him confronting Nick.  

But the preview showed Shawn saying something like, "get out of my face..."  Why would he say that if he is confronting Nick? Would it have to be the other way around?  Still confusing...

There may have been two encounters. Shawn goes to Nicks room to confront him then later Nick and Shawn have another go round when Nick tries to explain? I wonder if when Kaitlyn talks to Shawn about what Nick said if that is when she reveals she slept with him (2 times) or does she save that elephant until their fantasy date? No wonder these guys hate each other having to remain in close proximity when things were serious with both of them & K. I think the seperation at fantasy dates helps them focus solely on their own relationship but this way the other relationships remained in their face until the end. They certainly did their Bachlorette K no favors this season having her compete to be chosen, giving her some guys who were into other Bachlorette, the edit throwing her under the bus, shortening her season and telling her to have fantasy suite dates to bring the final 3 relationships all up to speed (what speed ...sleep with them all before you dcecide?), keeping the guys together waiting while she was on fantasy date with other guy so when he returns happy they can fume!!!! I'm over it and ready for BIP at least there may be some love even if it is bromance love.

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Post by jojo47 Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:43 pm

LenaActually wrote:
OnePromise wrote:
But the preview showed Shawn saying something like, "get out of my face..."  Why would he say that if he is confronting Nick? Would it have to be the other way around?  Still confusing...

Shawn also says "You're the last person I want to talk to." Which makes me think the confrontation wasn't his idea. And it kinda sounds to me like he could be saying, "Why don't you get the %$& out of my place right now, not "face."
Another clue that way suggest Nick approached him in order to talk.

I agree, Lena. I thought he said "place" & not "face".
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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:35 pm

When watching with closed captioning Shawn says "face". So will have to see.
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Post by Kashathediva Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:44 pm

I thought it was face. 2cents



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Post by leselihau Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:09 pm

I just rewatched....looks/sounds like place to me on the rewatch. Really thought it was face at first watch.

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Post by Newto Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:22 am

Closed captioning is sometimes full of mistakes. I wouldn't rely on that too much for interpretation.

Gawd, what a mess this show has turned out to be!!


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Post by jojo47 Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:00 pm

This is likely Kaitlyn telling Shawn about Nick. The brick wall could be the pub wall (as per USWeekly):

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