The Bachelorette 11 - Screen Caps - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

allykat wrote:Just watched the preview from last night. When Shawn is in Kaitlin's room arguing he is in a suit jacket. Wasn't the season preview cap of the guy entering Kaitlin's room sleuthed to be Shawn, in Dublin, wearing a redish striped sweater? So was Shawn in Kaitlyn's room in Dublin more than once?

Yeah, that's what it looks like. Despite the spoilers and previews, we have already placed him in her room twice, so maybe he is sex guy. Nothing else would make sense to me just based on their mutual ilys last night.

I'm waiting for the SC godesses here to do their magic. Pretty sure they will have the case cracked before midnight .

Kaitlyn was wearing a black top when she was all giddy with the prospect of doing "it" with someone. Was that the same top she was wearing on her 1on1 date with Nick ?
I so think she is going to mess this up royallly despite the IFILWY.

Can someone post the outfit on Nicks date and the PI black top please ?

They appear to be the same tops. The problem is TPTB have gotten wise to this. It goes beyond wearing the same clothes. She could be wearing the same clothes and it could be taken out of context or happen after the date is over.

nd4reality wrote:I so think she is going to mess this up royallly despite the IFILWY.

^^^

Is anyone already making or planning on doing SC of the preview?  I may have some time this afternoon to make SC if no one has by then and they're wanted/needed.

They are wanted so go ahead and make them, Need to figure out the sex guy.

Kashathediva wrote:They appear to be the same tops. The problem is TPTB have gotten wise to this. It goes beyond wearing the same clothes. She could be wearing the same clothes and it could be taken out of context or happen after the date is over.

So you think that after her date with Nick (black top) where is appears to be all excited about getting horizontal, she somehow ends up in bed with another guy (Shawn possibly) ?

I try not to think it out.
 We have sc of her with him on date. We have sc of her wearing the same outfit in an ITM. That's all we have. 
I would have to draw a conclusion between point A and point B. Not going to go there.

bringing this over from the epi thread...

Hey yall! Enjoying tuning in -- interesting watching the softening of edits for JJ and nick this week. It's quite an interesting multi-dimensional villain or an "everyone can be a villain" season. 

Poking my head in to share some observations and curious what others have analyzed from the sc last night -- have had my money on Shawn as sex guy for a while now...but the preview very much makes it look like Nick is sex guy so I am questioning.

curious for sc analysis of the preview

 -- Shawn goes to K's hotel room twice during the coming week 
1. during the group date and she's all disheveled (hair a mess wearing a white top) and he's wearing a black on black suit. she looks frantic and like she's straightening things out
2. the other time he goes he has on the burgundy sweater and we see him at the door as well as in the elevator when he leaves. we see K afterwards crying in the grey tshirt she was wearing when he arrives at her hotel room door. 

with nick:
- there is the ITM of her in a black sweater dress where she says to the camera "go to my suite and whatever happens happens" she looks like she'd been drinking a bit and her face is very pink and she looks giddy 
- she was photographed wearing a long-sleeve black dress outside of christ church for that night date which has been sleuthed to be where she met Nick  
- She seems to be wearing that same outfit in a sc of her with nick and him stroking her hand with a crystal bracelet from the season preview. they're seen on a couch and the pillows behind them look like a match with the ones from her suite in the ^ scene where shawn comes to her room where she is disheveled 

anyone else seeing the same things?
shawn being in her hotel room twice and nick also being in her hotel room once makes for a very interesting puzzle.

both CH and K's blogs today refer to Shawn in an interesting way...

And yes what Shawn and I had was strong, but it was still so early. My biggest fear was ruining something I had with someone like Shawn.

from K's blog

It was an amazing date and some would say that at this point, Shawn and Kaitlyn may have the strongest relationship leaving San Antonio.

from CH's blog 

are they trying to foreshadow that things go a different direction (south) for shawn's relationship next week?

To ME it appears as if she 2-3 guys visiting her private chambers 3-4 times!!! am going crazy???

1. nick after their dublin date in the suite
2. a guy from the gd cos her hair looks all disheveled when she's talking with shawn with his voice raised -- this could be shawn or this could be someone else
3. shawn when he's there with his black suit
4. shawn when he's there in his burgundy sweater and she lets him in to her room then we have an ITM of her crying afterwards

All this is confusing in context of how K seems to run to Nick during their Cobb date without hesitation, guilt or any bad feelings just freely and excitedly...

emusha wrote:To ME it appears as if she 2-3 guys visiting her private chambers 3-4 times!!! am going crazy???

I don't think so. I would comment that IMO every time we have screencaps we have video and if we have video we have producers and a camera man and if we have producers and a camera man it means that TPTB are behind most of what we see. If they knew that "something" was going on in Kaitlyn's room with "a" guy - is there any reason they would not arrange an unexpected visit by another guy to "almost" catch her doing - whatever? IMO this could explain why they could have used a traffic light in front of Kaitlyn's door / why she had so many different visitors.

OK, SC from the Epi 6 preview are posted in the SC No Discussion Thread. It's broken into 2 parts. Can't wait to see what y'all have figured out when I check back in later!  

That's a good point -- what is curious to me is that things seem to go swimmingly with the various guys in upcoming episodes according to the sc so the explosion/fall out/k being called out over sex guy seems very unlikely to have really happened during the first week in ireland... at least imho the only person she seems stressed out around is shawn and I tend to think he's sex guy and they're managing what happened between them before she decides to tell the other guys

she also seems very carefree with nick in Cobb so how can she be harboring any guilt or bad feelings for having done the deed with him -- the main person she's shown expressing mixed feelings associated with is Shawn

on Nick as possible sex guy
the way nick referred to "e*ection" during his mariachi song and the way they seem to make out makes it seem like he's sex guy but they're not curbing their enthusiasm for anyone in the coming weeks (lacy screenshot, cobb greeting) esp should shawn be angry at her for anything given all the scenes we have of him in/around her hotel room being angry etc...
I also find it crazy to think that after being so anxious about his place with the guys that nick would go with K and gets her to have sex with him
I think the ITM of her saying "go to suite whatever happens happens" makes me think very much that nick is sex guy .. but contrary to that N&K seem completely at ease and not guilt-ridden in future scs in ireland

on Shawn as possible sex guy
on the flip side
we have very few shawn sc in ireland aside from the dealings in the hotel room areas, sc walking with guys and one sc of him on a couch in a blue blazer...  so that makes me think that shawn is sex guy

here's aloo what I'm thinking  
these two visits described below could be flip flopped

K has sex with shawn when he comes to her room in the burgundy sweater. after he leaves she realizes the gravity of her actions and she feels bad and breaks down cos of the other guys and cos of being caught ...after he leaves she's crying in her ITM saying "I'm not a bad person" during the group date they again escape to her room and she tells him how she feels she tells him she feels guilty and shawn is telling her 'what're you saying do you not know what we have??' meaning who cares if we have sex we're falling in love

I think the other way could also be true and probably more likely. i.e. the group date scenario takes place first they have sex and she's trying to clear things up cos she's so dissheveled after romp...he reassures her "do you not know what we have?" he's angry she is feeling bad/guilty about sex with him after being caught.... then the next day or so he goes to her room and talks to her about what happened she is really feeling bad and in her ITM she cries "I am not a bad person".

I just think it's very suspicious for shawn to be in her bed chambers this often and him having ease and access without him being sex guy IMHO as sex guy it makes sense that he'd be going in and out whether it be to address the issue or whatever else