The Bachelorette 11 - Screen Caps - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

BlackHalo wrote:

sdmom wrote:But if Shawn was mad after learning about the pre FS sex, would he stay around to make F2? Unless TPTB promised him the next lead?

Could be but I don't think she told Shawn immediately. I think she waited till closer to the end.

sdmom wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:

sdmom wrote:But if Shawn was mad after learning about the pre FS sex, would he stay around to make F2? Unless TPTB promised him the next lead?

Could be but I don't think she told Shawn immediately. I think she waited till closer to the end.

That's what I've been thinking: she told him/others in Utah, where she wore the gray shirt with stripes.

bilolo wrote:

sdmom wrote:

BlackHalo wrote:
Could be but I don't think she told Shawn immediately. I think she waited till closer to the end.

That's what I've been thinking: she told him/others in Utah, where she wore the gray shirt with stripes.

That would be a mistake, because later they'd be too emotionaly invested to forgive her, she should tell them immediately

BlackHalo wrote:So sex with Nick happens after their 1:1 in Dublin. Few days later Shawn visits her and she feels guilty. I don't think she necessarily told Shawn on that night (there were still several guys left Shawn could've shared this info with) but just rather broke down about the guilt during an ITM. She said she only told the guys who she was serious about and the UsWeekly article said the other frontrunners were furious. I'm wondering when those conversations happened and who (other than Shawn) she revealed this to. We haven't seen enough of Ben H. to know if he was someone she was serious about but he is in the final 3. Could be that Kaitlyn walked away alone because her intended F1 decided to walk once she revealed this.

Alanna wrote:Yeah, I don't know what man would want to be f1 after seeing/hearing how Kait is bf/gf-ing everyone within a mile up and then on top of that, fiancé-ing someone else too. That relationship is doomed, even if the spoilers are wrong.

Longhornfan wrote:My thoughts regarding the picture of Kaitlyn opening the door to see Shawn standing there.  I believe that Shawn negotiated some extra alone time with Kaitlyn, much like others before him have done, and Kaitlyn appears to be happily surprised to see him.  So, I would say that she has a smirk on her face - but one that indicates that she is happy to see him.
Other than that, I have no clue what happened afterwards.

Longhornfan wrote:My thoughts regarding the picture of Kaitlyn opening the door to see Shawn standing there.  I believe that Shawn negotiated some extra alone time with Kaitlyn, much like others before him have done, and Kaitlyn appears to be happily surprised to see him.  So, I would say that she has a smirk on her face - but one that indicates that she is happy to see him.

Other than that, I have no clue what happened afterwards.

OnePromise wrote:Week Six: Dublin, Radisson Blu St. Helen's

If I recall it was reported here by someone from Dublin that Nick's date was on 4/6 - Monday
the same day Nick posted a pic on IG - in a pub in his blue shirt
1.) 1:1, Walking around Dublin, during day/evening - Nick (in regular clothes as seen by a fan), later walking around town (Nick in grey suit coat per photo posted by RS) then at Radisson Blu Hotel holding hands with K (SC with grey suitcoat), got rose, maybe night of sex per RS

Next day 4/7 he tweeted these:
Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 7 (3:20 PM)
Cloudy morning. Still no summer! #wtf

On IG he posted "HUGS" pic

Do you think the "sexy night" would be the night before that morning?

From Mr. Write findings, this date could be on 4/7 - Tuesday
2.) 2:1, Ireland's Eye Island Ferry, near Dublin - Joe & JJ, JJ goes home and Joe gets the rose (SC of Joe and K on beach and then on the ferry boat to mainland, she gives him the rose on the boat.)

Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 8 (0:03 AM)
:/

Then I would assume this is the next day - so 4/8 - Wednesday (if anyone has suggestions, please I forgot the schedule)
3) Group Date, Guinness Brewery/storehouse - Ben H. (SC dancing with K), Jared, Dr. Chris, Shawn,Tanner and Ben Z. (SC with Ben H,  Shawn, Ben Z. and Jared in suits), Jared got group date rose and extra time with K at Christ Church Cathedral, Cranberries concert - (SC dancing at the cathedral with K)
Was it sleuthed that Shawn walks out of the Guinness compound (SC of a guy walking out the door and orange walls)?

4/9 - Thursday Rose Ceremony: 9 to 6, Nick, Joe and Jared have roses already. JJ (went home previously), Tanner and Ben Z. go home leaving Shawn, Ben H, and Dr. Chris with roses.
Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 10 (at 1:34 AM)
I ate too many hamburgers and I'm paying for it. #meat

- just adding if this could indicate at anything.

Week Seven: Killarney, Randles Court Hotel - from 4/10 (Friday) till assumed 4/16 (Thursday) or was it 4/14 (Tuesday)

SCs of Nick, Ben and Jared "listening" - you can clearly see they are "looking" at someone on the yellow-velvet couch that seats "down" (left) from Ben, next to Nick (right) - it might be Kaitlyn, but also it might not be her. Definitely it is not the the same scene with her "talking about sex".
What do you think the conversation is about, when did it take place - after somebody left? (even for Nick at the thought that there might be one guy less, so I would think that's not the case, but who knows?) - The expressions on those 3 guys' faces aren't very happy, Ben looks perplexed  - So what could that all be about, does it involve Kaitlyn at all? Would Shawn be present?

Nick tweeted: ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 13 (2:50 PM)
I don't complain about Mondays.
- the previous date he had was on Monday, so I assume 4/13 may had been the GD (where Joe "left", Shawn and Jared were present too)
he also posted on IG: the "3D" pic on 4/13 (please correct the time/date who uses IG)

‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 14 (11:45 PM)
(3 planes)

- Which might indicate the date when 3 guys left?

Dates: Not sure of order, but two are located minutes from the hotel
1.)  1:1, Inisfallen Island/Abbey, Lough Leane, Co. Kerry - was with  "Hide and Seek guy", not clear who ... Ben
I would assume Ben, since Jared already had 2 fancy dates before - which makes me wonder, Ben and Jared would both had 1:1 date twice (if the CB concert can be counted as 1on1) before FS week - and that would explain why Ben ends as F3, Shawn and Nick only one 1:1 each - but with some "extra" bedroom time in Dublin. (so one of the two did the deed)
2.) 1:1, Hag's Head, at cliffs of Moher, Co.  Claire - Dr. Chris (SC  - wide shots reveal shadowy figures at Hag's head but closer evaluation of SC with Dr. Chris without a coat and Kaitlyn with her hair up support this), he may go home on the date per RS and (SC reveal a tearful Chris out by the sea)
3.) Group Date, Muckross House, Killarney National Park, Co. Kerry - Shawn, Joe, Nick, Jared (SC indicate that Joe appears upset about something here, maybe went home ?)

Rose Ceremony: 6 to 3, Chris was possibly sent home already, maybe Joe went home too, Jared is sent home (at the RC) leaving Shawn, Nick and Ben H. who might got the rose on the 1:1 date earlier).

Leaving only three main places that we sleuthed in SC for the overnight date locations as follows:

Week Eight: in no particular order - reported from 4/17 (or 15th) till 4/23 (please correct if mistaken with new findings)
1.) Lough Erne Resort, near Enniskillen - Shawn (SC in bed at hotel)
2.) Lough Cutra Castle, Co. Galway- Ben H. (SC of castle and horseback riding)
3.) Kennedy Park, Cork, Co. Cobh - Nick (SC in park kissing K, there is also the SC of Nick holding K wearing a blue button shirt that he wore in earlier SC of the day at the park. He is also wearing a new ring on his finger that some here believe is a claddaugh ring indicating that he is taken or in a relationship.  That would be fitting as a sign to K of his commitment to her if he is indeed one of the F2.) Also, Irish article stated that one date occurred at the Blarney Castle to kiss the Blarney Stone, which is only twenty minutes from Kennedy Park so it is likely that Nick and K did this for their date. (Although we have no SC support at this time.)

So Nick's over-night date in Cork could on which day?
He posted on IG on Apr 20th (the way I see it) the "Studying the art of the selfie." - "in Chicago" pic
Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 19 (8:08 PM)
Hard to believe how expensive almond butter is. It's just almonds, right?!
Nick Viall ‏@viallnicholas28 Apr 22 (9:56 PM)
Everything is... cool

Rose Ceremony: Per RS Ben H. goes home, which does not add up with information that he did not arrive home until much later, maybe related to sequestering or he went to the next location and wasn't sent home at this time.  

And after that I think that the preview runs pretty dry of spoilers, except for a few shots of K crying and looking forlorn over the balcony in Park City Utah at the Montage Deer Valley Resort.  "I just feel bad," she says tearfully.  Not sure if that means she feels bad about sending one or both guys packing.  I'm hoping that she ends up with Nick, but I would not be surprised if she doesn't pick either.  Sad, but maybe it was best for her (and them).  Time with tell.