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Post by AllAboutLove Sat May 23, 2015 10:36 pm

OnePromise wrote:Ooooo, Beagle I forgot about the Blarney Stone.  We will have to look into that.  
And I didn't know about the fireworks in SA.  I'll update to question that for Ireland as it is not clear enough to tell where they happened.  Although what little vegetation I saw in the dim light looks more like SAnfor sure. N
From s/caps it seems like SA? Vegetation similar maybe? Not sure though if they would be on the water 2x on the same date but possible... We know Shawn wore a denim button down shirt that evening at the lodge in SA when he is kissing Kaitlyn. He seems to be wearing blue here too but not sure if a sweater or that same shirt?

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With the Shawn - Ryan Gosling comparison it seems like another The Notebook reference. Lots of those lately this year -- CH is doing his Nicholas Sparks rounds with is book as well.

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Post by julychild Sat May 23, 2015 10:41 pm

The little cabin by the lake has been identified as the botanical gardens in SA. The fireworks was definitely from SA.

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Post by OnePromise Sat May 23, 2015 10:47 pm

Updated the list to take out the fireworks in Ireland and add the Blarney stone to Nicks date near Cort. You guys are such a great team! Awesome!
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Post by pavalygurl Sat May 23, 2015 11:54 pm

[quote="OnePromise"]Here's the update.  Good work all! clapping!
The final date for Nick makes more sense with the SC too now, his blue shirt is a match for the day and night SC.

OnePromise wrote:Not exactly sure where to put this information summary.  But since I used mostly the screen caps to try to put it together, I will put it here.  

So I was having a hard time figuring out how there could be four dates the first week in Ireland putting the SC and RS spoilers together.  This is what I came up with:

Week Six: Dublin, Radisson Blu St. Helen's
Guys: 9 to 6
(SC of hotel) Shawn, Joe, Ben H., Tanner, Nick, Dr. Chris and JJ
(Other Dublin photos) Jared and Ben Z.
Dates: not sure of order, both 1:1 seem to have been filmed close together given fan postings.
1.) 1:1, Walking around Dublin, during day/evening - Nick (in regular clothes as seen by a fan), later walking around town (Nick in grey suit coat per photo posted by RS) then at Radisson Blu Hotel holding hands with K (SC with grey suitcoat), got rose, maybe night of sex per RS, unconfirmed otherwise
2.) Group Date, Guinness Brewery/storehouse - Ben H. (SC dancing with K), Dr. Chris, Shawn,Tanner and Ben Z.
3.) 1:1, Christ Church Cathedral, Cranberries concert - Jared, (SC dancing the cathedral with K), got the rose
4.) 2:1, Inisfallen Island/Abbey, Lough Leone, Co. Kerry - Joe & JJ, JJ goes home and Joe gets the rose (SC of Joe and K on ferry boat to mainland where she gives him the rose.)

Rose Ceremony: 9 to 6, Nick, Joe and Jared have roses already. JJ (went home previously), Tanner and Ben Z. go home leaving Shawn, Ben H, and Dr. Chris with roses. (Unsure if group rose was handed out.)

Then I tried to put together the other known locations given our SC with a timeline.  Kind of rough, but I gave it a go.

Week Seven: Killarney, Randles Court Hotel
Guys: 6 to 3
(SC with Nick, Jared and Ben H appearing to talk to K about sex situation, but I think it's clipped together and not even the same conversation.)
Others are assumed: Shawn, Dr. Chris and Joe
Dates: Not sure of order, but two are located minutes from the hotel
1.)  Group Date, Muckross House, Killarney National Park, Co. Kerry - Shawn, Joe, Nick, Jared, Ben (who ever wasn't on the unknown 1:1) (SC indicate that Joe appears upset about something here, maybe went home ?)
2.) 1:1, Hag's Head, at cliffs of Moher, Co.  Claire - Dr. Chris (SC  - wide shots reveal shadowy figures at Hag's head but closer evaluation of SC with Dr. Chris without a coat and Kaitlyn with her hair up support this), he may go home on the date per RS and (SC reveal a tearful Chris out by the sea)
3.) 1:1, unsure where and with whom, was with Jared, Nick, Shawn or Ben, sleuth on! :detective

Rose Ceremony: 6 to 3, Chris was possibly sent home already, maybe Joe went home too, Jared is sent home leaving Shawn, Nick and Ben H. to get roses that night (unless they got one on the unknown 1:1 date earlier).

Leaving only three main places that we sleuthed in SC for the overnight date locations as follows:

Week Eight: in no particular order
1.) Lough Erne Resort, near Enniskillen - Shawn (SC in bed at hotel)
2.) Lough Cutra Castle, Co. Gorf - Ben H. (SC of castle and horseback riding)
3.) Kennedy Park, Cork, Co. Cobh - Nick (SC in park kissing K, there is also the SC of Nick holding K wearing the same blue button shirt that he wore in earlier SC of the day at the park. He is also wearing a new ring on his finger that some here believe is a claddaugh ring indicating that he is taken or in a relationship.  That would be fitting as a sign to K of his commitment to her if he is indeed one of the F2.) Also, Irish article stated that one date occurred at the Blarney Castle to kiss the Blarney Stone, which is only twenty minutes from Kennedy Park so it is likely that Nick and K did this for their date. (Although we have no SC support at this time.)

Rose Ceremony: Per RS Ben H. Goes home, no proof of this otherwise.

And after that I think that preview runs pretty dry of spoilers, except for a few shots of K crying and looking forlorn over the balcony in Park City Utah at the Montage Deer Valley Resort.  "I just feel bad," she says tearfully.  Not sure if that means she feels bad about sending one or both guys packing.  I'm hoping that she ends up with Nick, but I would not be surprised if she doesn't pick either.  Sad, but maybe it was best for her (and them).  Time with tell.  

If anybody has thoughts or tweeks that is always welcome.  This is just thoughts.  I'm not RS. sneakyl
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OP, this is excellent work. I had a whole scenario written, but had to delete because I forgot Joe was at Muckross in epi 7. Oh my, I am so confused.

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun May 24, 2015 12:14 am

Have we sleuthed these?

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Post by Guest Sun May 24, 2015 12:16 am

With whom did she wear that dress?

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Post by AllAboutLove Sun May 24, 2015 12:17 am

Reason, not sure? That is the only time we see her in that dress in the promo s/caps. Trying to see if the walls/door is distinctive enough to match something sleuthed already...
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Post by OnePromise Sun May 24, 2015 12:27 am

PG, I thought the same thing you did and tried my best to see if the 2:1 would fit in week 7 because the location fits there much better.  The only problem was that Joe gets a rose (SC on boat ferry with K). Then we would have 6 guys to 4 guys that week and need to figure out what to do with Joe during week 8.  Plus we see Joe at the Muckross House (per SC there) that week.  You could try to switch the Muckross House date with the 2:1, but then you'd have the same location problem again as the Muckross House and Inisfallen Island are both within twenty minutes of each other.   :headbanging

I was thinking that they finished filming the part of week 7 in Dublin, traveled to Killarney and then shot the 2:1 at Inisfallen Island as part of week 7.  Then they would have the rose ceremony and stay in Killarney for the second date at Muckross House. Then Dr. Chris and Kaitlyn traveled to Hag's Head alone.  Then the group got together for the rose ceremony and split up for overnight dates.  Because all the dates were in Ireland, I think they just took a migrating approach, wondering from place to place instead of one place each week/episode.  What do you think? no idea

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Post by pavalygurl Sun May 24, 2015 12:34 am

OnePromise wrote:PG, I thought the same thing you did and tried my best to see if the 2:1 would fit in week 7 because the location fits there much better.  The only problem was that Joe gets a rose (SC on boat ferry with K). Then we would have 6 guys to 4 guys that week and need to figure out what to do with Joe during week 8.  Plus we see Joe at the Muckross House (per SC there) that week.  You could try to switch the Muckross House date with the 2:1, but then you'd have the same location problem again as the Muckross House and Inisfallen Island are both within twenty minutes of each other.   :headbanging

I was thinking that they finished filming the part of week 7 in Dublin, traveled to Killarney and then shot the 2:1 at Inisfallen Island as part of week 7.  Then they would have the rose ceremony and stay in Killarney for the second date at Muckross House. Then Dr. Chris and Kaitlyn traveled to Hag's Head alone.  Then the group got together for the rose ceremony and split up for overnight dates.  Because all the dates were in Ireland, I think they just took a migrating approach, wondering from place to place instead of one place each week/episode.  What do you think? no idea

OP again, you pulled all this together so very well. Kudos! I think they may have had "headquarters" in Dublin early in the shoot and then again in Killarney. For episode 8 I agree they probably split the guys and just had them stay near their shoot site or maybe had three crews??? and did them simultaneously? I don't have a good feel for the calendar dates to judge how long after they shot the Killarney area that they stayed in Ireland/N Ireland.

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Post by Mr&MrsSmith Sun May 24, 2015 12:37 am

I wonder about Jared having a one on one date in Dublin. RS has him listed as being on the group date which we know was to Guinness. He also has the Cranberries concert as having happened in ep 7 but that doesn't make sense. I wonder if Jared got the group date rose after Guinness and Kaitlyn took him to see the Cranberries at Christ Church

Here is Kaitlyn at Guinness. Her hair is back on the left side and she is wearing a gold ring on her right middle finger.
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Here she is kissing Jared. She has her jacket on at this point and he doesn't. I think right after giving him the GDR.
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And kissing Jared at Christ Church Cathedral
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In the other caps of the inside of the church it seems to still be daylight outside based on the light coming in through the blue stained glass.

Also, JMO, but Jared had a huge date in NYC and then made out with Kaitlyn on a bed on roses in San Antonio so it seems soon for him to have another one on one date.

I guess the group date at Guinness and the Cranberries all happened on April 7th. April 6th Nick and Kaitlyn were spotted in 3 different places based on poster Evo and the photos from RS. Prior to RS posting his pics of Nick and Kaitlyn entering Christ Church Cathedral, all we had was a tweeted photo of equipment at the back entrance of the Church the night of the 6th. I suggest there were crew already at the Church the night of the 6th, allowing Kaitlyn and Nick to tour privately, and that the crew were probably setting up for the Cranberries the following day.
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Post by julychild Sun May 24, 2015 12:42 am

The first post Joe made on SM was on the 1st or 2nd of May, and it said something about being back home.

What if RS was wrong and four guys had FD's. Joe got the GDR on the Muckross House date in week 7, leading to extra time alone time on Inisfallen. He is sent home at the FD's RC. We have a SC of him and Kaitlyn sitting on a grand staircase that looks to be in Ireland.

3 guys move on to Utah for HTD's and Ben is sent home. Maybe Kaitlyn was crying and "feeling bad" in Utah because she had to send Ben home before RC.

Speculations, speculations...


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Post by OnePromise Sun May 24, 2015 12:42 am

Thanks PG, but it really is only thanks to all the great SC sluething done earlier that the big picture can fit together.  Who knows, it might be all different than I expect.  But it sure is fun to speculate and try to fit all the pieces together.
You are right about the headquarters in Dublin and Killarney, but I hope they didn't film the three overnights simultaneously.  That would leave two guys without the girl.  giggling
I vote that Nick gets the date with her. yes

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