The Bachelorette Season 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #2

nutty1 wrote:I don't care about anything as long as he isn't F2 again!!!

chasingpavements wrote:I suppose it's a matter of interpretation. This is what Nick has said, and what I took it to mean.

That’s why I feel Andi’s decision to have sex with me was not appropriate. Either she was unsure about our relationship or – worse – she was certain she was choosing Josh. In both of those circumstances, I felt as if she didn’t respect my feelings and that she should not have had sex with me.

Why? Well, once we had sex, my feelings of love would be solidified in that scenario.


I took that as meaning that in this particular situation, where Andi wasn't allowed to say "ILY", when he told her that he loved and how much intimacy with her would mean, she had sex with him, he took that as her way of telling him that she loved him. He (naively) though she wouldn't have sex with him if she was unsure about him or set on Josh.

Whatever your beliefs about sex, we live in a very sexual world. To me what’s most important is that the two people involved have a clear understanding of what sex means to the other person. If the emotional attachment to sex isn’t equal, sex can be hurtful. Consequently, it should be treated with the greatest amount of respect.


Again, I took that as meaning that Andi knew that sex would imply love to Nick in this situation and she did it anyways. In a case like with Julie, where they both know that sex did not equal love for them, they are both approaching it with little emotional investment and it will not hurt either as long as they are honest. In the hypothetical Kaitlyn situation, I think that as long as she was honest with him (aka, I want to sleep with you but I'm still figuring out my feelings for the other guys), it would allow him to make a decision on having sex without putting more meaning into it than necessary.

ironcat wrote:Thanks for finding those quotes of Nick's, chasing pavements, I didn't have the energy or interest.  Bravo to him IF he really has an honest conversation with every woman he sleeps with confirming that her feelings for him aren't at a level different from his feelings for her, but unfortunately, he should have realized that a discussion of this type was not possible when dating on The Bachelorette.  I hope he has better luck with Kaitlyn if he makes it that far, but I'm skeptical.

ironcat wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I don't care about anything as long as he isn't F2 again!!!

I actuallly hope he is.  I think it would be a riot.

relaxing wrote:Wow! Great job to the Nick watchers who predicted this could happen.  

Personally I'm all for it.  If Kaitlyn hasn't made any major connections yet why not bring him on.  I think they'd be awesome together and I'd love to see Nick on some dates with someone who could go toe to toe with him on wit and humor and snarking.  

Ash2214 wrote:I am not in the least bit surprised that Nick appears to be on the season now. It was pretty obvious to me at least that the guy loves the fact that he was on the show and the attention. How nice that they were already making out. He'll be another Chris B

Lost17 wrote:

ironcat wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I don't care about anything as long as he isn't F2 again!!!

I actuallly hope he is.  I think it would be a riot.

 IF he has to be on this season I'm hoping he's F1, just so tptb don't make him the bach. I couldn't watch a season with him on it. Would be interesting though to see if all those that love him now, still do at the end of his season.

julychild wrote:

Lost17 wrote:

ironcat wrote:

I actuallly hope he is.  I think it would be a riot.

 IF he has to be on this season I'm hoping he's F1, just so tptb don't make him the bach. I couldn't watch a season with him on it. Would be interesting though to see if all those that love him now, still do at the end of his season.

I'm rooting for the guy's life! He is very passionate, and while people like that get easily wounded, I am happy that he is going after what he wants, despite the RISKS (assuming the spoilers are true).

'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
-Alfred Lord Tennyson