Bachelor 19 - Becca Tilly #4

I still think SM is debatable, because i'm sure they have been instructed to mislead. I would they are being purposeful about throwing out decoys. The Love is Patient, Love is Kind, quote also came at a time when Becca was receiving some backlash from viewers about her waiting to tell Chris she's a virgin. She received quite a few negative tweets from that. That's why Dez came to her rescue with some great comebacks. Becca's thing is to bite her tongue and be patient and kind to people, regardless.

Hmbach ... I'm a bit wary because last year Nick and his whole family were also quite positive and encouraging on SM ... and it turned out as it did. I didn't follow Josh's side, so I have no idea, but I do remember some were reporting that his tweets at times sounded "spiritual and pensive", as being sad, which later resulted not to be true (oh well, who knows, he was F1 all that matters) ... so I don't know what to believe anymore about Becca's or her fam. But the interviews are so general, that I could read both possibilities in them. So I'm focusing only on The Show. In Andi's season I noticed her chemistry with Josh, but I thought what she was saying about Nick she really felt it and so I thought she wouldn't let that go, but obviously the words don't mean much ... this time I'm witnessing a lot of phrases and words from Chris for Whitney, but I see chemistry with Becca. I don't think Chris is the same "good actor", but that doesn't mean he doesn't "play" the game of this show and leads us off.

If you go back to the video of W and K are talking you can here them say about he is over there letting her go. They were sure both of them that Becca was going home. I don't think the show was going to be about Becca making it to the FS date. I think the shocker was that she wasn't going home after the FS. That to me would be the shocker. The girls faces when C brought Becca Back. Think about it wouldnt you be shocked. Knowing that he has been keeping Becca after the FS dates were over. The public and the girls were shocked. Becca thought she was going home..

happygolucky wrote:Hmbach ... I'm a bit wary because last year Nick and his whole family were also quite positive and encouraging on SM ... and it turned out as it did. I didn't follow Josh's side, so I have no idea, but I do remember some were reporting that his tweets at times sounded "spiritual and pensive", as being sad, which later resulted not to be true (oh well, who knows, he was F1 all that matters) ... so I don't know what to believe anymore about Becca's or her fam. But the interviews are so general, that I could read both possibilities in them. So I'm focusing only on The Show. In Andi's season I noticed her chemistry with Josh, but I thought what she was saying about Nick she really felt it and so I thought she wouldn't let that go, but obviously the words don't mean much ... this time I'm witnessing a lot of phrases and words from Chris for Whitney, but I see chemistry with Becca. I don't think Chris is the same "good actor", but that doesn't mean he doesn't "play" the game of this show and leads us off.

I think it boils down to a head vs. heart decision. I think the body language is really irrefutable. Look how far away he sits from Whitney at the FS date on the couch vs. Becca or body language on the couch from Ws HTD to Bs 1 on 1 on the couch. There is a definite difference if you really look closely and I don't personally think you can argue with that. Now... will he decide with his head or with his heart that is still the big question and I personally would be disappointed if he chooses W when that kind of chemistry exists between himself and B. Although he did have the chemistry with Britt too but it shut off really quickly when he realized she lied to him.

happygolucky wrote:

Beagle wrote:In regards to the edit, without knowing the spoilers, I would think Becca was F1, BUT unfortunately every season now we deal with SM after filming, and sure enough every season they give us clues to make the outcome known and I can't ignore what I'm seeing in SM which to me points directly to Whitney.

really? I have no idea how to read SM - that's tricky for me, because it could be either way, Becca does post a lot, Whitney doesn't ... I don't know the usual routine, if there is in these cases how F1/F2 behave online. So, I don't mind reading your thoughts about it.

That said, if I'm reading it all wrong in term of the edit and it turns out Whit is F1, then there go all my theories about the protagonists (their facial expressions, body language, personalities ...) and I would think that there was never a real foundation between Becca & Chris to begin with. I wouldn't buy the spoiled version of him not choosing her only at the end because of her indecisiveness or her backing away in the last moment, no, then I would have to reevaluate everything from the start.

Things I can't ignore, former contestants predicting Whitney F1, Ali, Andi etc. Sean saying that Whitney is the best fit, they all know the outcome just like they knew Josh was F1. Very telling for me is that Whitney posted a couple of very intimate pictures from her 1 on 1's. One is she is making out with Chris and the other one is when she jumps on him and they are embracing in the Des Moines date. If she wasn't F1, that would be a little disrespectful and awkward to the F1 IMO. Becca post a lot of pictures with Chris but none of them that I have seen are of that intimate nature. Also Whitney favors a lot of tweets that say she is the best match for Chris, again awkward if she is not F1. Whitney's mysterious flight Feb 10th without explaining were she was going. Becca's sister posting that Becca should be the next Bachelorette ( which BTW, I gave up hope after seeing Kaitlyn's photo shoot ). I know I'm forgetting something but those are some of the clues that make me think Becca is not F1.

GuardianAngel wrote:The magazine some are referring to has been deleted.

It's against the rules to take pictures of a magazine and post them on our forum. If the magazine is taken from on line, then a link must be provided.

I guess it serves me right for not being here for a few hourse yesterday and I missed it. I was wondering if someone could provide me with a link or in the very least, maybe pm me the pictures? I am so lost as to what is going on with that article and would really like to be filled in. Thanks.

MO. If C doesn't choose Beeca as the final one. I think he should of kept crazy girl cause they would a match made in heaven. JMO

I get that too watching them together ... I'm just not reading SM so much as a clue, I like it, it's fun, but I don't trust it as much as the "edit" - now, last year, whoever read my comments knows, I was also "reading into the edit" and well, read it wrong (my love for Nick clearly was clouding my judgment), but I also saw the incompatibilities that have shown afterwards, so I'm relying on that sense ... it would be surprising for me if I would be so off track, considering my belief that the decision about F1 is made in the heart long before FRC. Since I sense it it is Becca. If she isn't, then all my convictions can be thrown out of the window.

concerned36 wrote:

hmbach wrote:

Hotmomma wrote:I believe Becca told him she was all in..NO? Durning their talk?

Yep. I think so.

I don't think so - that was a  VO, she could have said that later, MTP or LCD or that week. But they used it here. They want viewers to think stuff went on in FS, and that's why I think Becca set the record straight on her SM.  To me, that sounds a little like a frankenbite.  Like they asked her what would it take for you to say yes. She could have said, I would have to be 100% all in, and they took off the I would have to be.

She said it in a VO during the part of the FS.

I have watched 4 seasons and been wrong all 4 times. I thought Desiree had the chemistry with Drew - the body language was all passion with Drew. I thought Juan Pablo had the chemistry with Clare, not Nikki. I thought the words and body language pointed to Nick for Andi, I didn't see very much between Andi and Josh. So I think they deliberately throw us off with both words and body language. This is why I'm thinking it's going to be Whitney, I think they love to fool us! But I also predicted correctly that Des and Chris would last (perfect couple), and that both Andi and Juan Pablo would break with their F1. If Becca is F1, I will be happy too. I think the US article is really summing up a Whitney pick, and it seems pretty accurate. And knowing Becca is so reasonable and level-headed and never in the bubble, would she really not waver at the end - like wake up thinking what the heck am I doing here about to be engaged?!!! Whereas I also see Chris as wanting a sure thing, even it it's not a match made in heaven. We'll see! I just can't wait to get another preview tomorrow night. That could totally change what we think may happen! yikes!

hmbach wrote:

happygolucky wrote:

Beagle wrote:In regards to the edit, without knowing the spoilers, I would think Becca was F1, BUT unfortunately every season now we deal with SM after filming, and sure enough every season they give us clues to make the outcome known and I can't ignore what I'm seeing in SM which to me points directly to Whitney.

really? I have no idea how to read SM - that's tricky for me, because it could be either way, Becca does post a lot, Whitney doesn't ... I don't know the usual routine, if there is in these cases how F1/F2 behave online. So, I don't mind reading your thoughts about it.

That said, if I'm reading it all wrong in term of the edit and it turns out Whit is F1, then there go all my theories about the protagonists (their facial expressions, body language, personalities ...) and I would think that there was never a real foundation between Becca & Chris to begin with. I wouldn't buy the spoiled version of him not choosing her only at the end because of her indecisiveness or her backing away in the last moment, no, then I would have to reevaluate everything from the start.

I think that the SM presence really points to Becca as F1.  W's have all been just pics of her (or her and a baby) along with pic of her Mom and her, or quotes about being a Confident Woman (not sure how to read that one I'll admit). But all of Beccas have been "Love is patient love is kind", family, pictures of her with Chris (lots more than W), and then of course there is Chris who has been pretty quiet in terms of hints I think, but big ones to me were the Luckiest man alive and the Make Love Facing West thing (and of course his blogs which favor Becca big time).  The other girls (even W) posting about don't believe everything you read in the gossip magazines... point me to B.

He also said he'd give that jump a 2. (referring to the date with Whitney when they jumped of the boat.)

Beagle, I see. Well, since this season reminds me a lot of RFL, where F2 was also posting very "romantic" pictures on her SM, so many thought she was F1, because why would she remind everyone (and herself) of that time .. I don't have the answer, but I would presume that her favoring tweets about her being the best match ... goes with my theory, that Whitney truly believed Chris and her fit perfectly (more than any other) and maybe she is acknowledging those who believe the same, giving her some sort of confirmation, that she wasn't wrong to believe so - that if she is F2.