Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - Episode 9 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* -

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

Another thing that bothers me is that he's "falling in love" with all of them and telling them so!

northernviewer wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that Becca was probably going to be the one to go home, but Chris was too afraid to let her go after she just admitted she was a virgin, in fear of being labeled a major jerk for doing so?  

I'm with you.   IMO looking like a jerk is something that Chris has tried hard not to do this entire season.  He certainly wouldn't push that aside at this late date and send the virgin home.  He can send her home next week with reasoning that has nothing to do with her being a virgin.

I'm still trying to figure out why Becca would tell anyone that works for TB franchise that she is a virgin.  If my daughter (who has made the same commitment) told me she was going on TB the first thing I would tell her is, well the first thing I would say is Don't do it.  If I couldn't talk her out of it then I would tell her to keep the virgin thing a secret.  OTOH, I guess the quickest way to be cast is to tell them you're a virgin.  They seem to love that sort of thing.

stuckinsc wrote:Nice that Whitney finally let her inner b**** fly with girls who aren't easy targets.  This is what I saw under the surface all season.  She is not 100% nice at all.  And when she is insecure the claws come out.

You mean, she's a mere mortal?

nutty1 wrote:Here is my biggest question about Becca…..would a 25 year old never been in love virgin who lives in CA really want to marry a 33 yr old who wants kids sooner than later and move to the middle of nowhere??

Stucki asked about nursing….that's the great thing about a nursing career. You can change your job to get a new and different experience. I worked for many years in an ICU, now I work for an insurance company, with a few different things in between. I am sure Whitney could find a decent nursing job.

Whitney has many options as a nurse. My sister is a nurse and some of her nurse friends work for companies that enable them to work from home. My sister has a friend that has a setup like that, and she recently moved from Chicago to Florida after her husband retired. She could have moved anywhere because her job is 100% at home. If Whitney did move to Iowa, I could see her doing a similar job.

KB_Mom wrote:

northernviewer wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that Becca was probably going to be the one to go home, but Chris was too afraid to let her go after she just admitted she was a virgin, in fear of being labeled a major jerk for doing so?  

No you are not alone. I had the same thought.

it also seems like Becca didn't get the last date as shown. I'm thinking it was Kaitlyn and she seemed pretty confident in getting a rose last night. I'm wondering if he did end up "plowing her field", as she mentioned in the M&G and why she asks him when they left the RC "what happened?" I'm convinced that Whit getting a rose was a given, he was up in the air about Becca and Kaitlyn though, that was clear. Hope the WTA sheds some light on that.

Lost17 wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

Another thing that bothers me is that he's "falling in love" with all of them and telling them so!

That is bothersome that he told all of the women that, but I bet he will reconcile that by saying something along the lines that he was "falling in love" with all of them, but ultimately determined that he was only "in love" with his F1.

Sable wrote:

nutty1 wrote:Here is my biggest question about Becca…..would a 25 year old never been in love virgin who lives in CA really want to marry a 33 yr old who wants kids sooner than later and move to the middle of nowhere??

Stucki asked about nursing….that's the great thing about a nursing career. You can change your job to get a new and different experience. I worked for many years in an ICU, now I work for an insurance company, with a few different things in between. I am sure Whitney could find a decent nursing job.

Whitney has many options as a nurse.  My sister is a nurse and some of her nurse friends work for companies that enable them to work from home.  My sister has a friend that has a setup like that, and she recently moved from Chicago to Florida after her husband retired.  She could have moved anywhere because her job is 100% at home.  If Whitney did move to Iowa, I could see her doing a similar job.

I work from home!! :Nod:   When I started nursing 35 years ago, I never would have thought it would have been possible!
PS….I am off today, that's why I am here so much!

Lost17 wrote:

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

Another thing that bothers me is that he's "falling in love" with all of them and telling them so!

  Telling everyone he was falling in love with them was bad news.  He knew he would have to let 1 person go but didn't seem to have the foresight to realize saying that to everyone meant the 1 let go would be more hurt than if he had kept it to himself.  Gee, he has more in common with Britt than I realized ... "Processing  thoughts aloud" without recognition of the consequences.  It also dilutes the experience for his F1 because Bali is where she proclaimed her love and thought he reciprocated to her only.  Now she knows it wasn't an experience unique to her. Not a great chapter in a love story. 

IMO Chris might use the "Arlington" thing as a crutch to a degree..  Relationships fail not because of his actions or personality but because he lives in wee Arlington.  Someone like Whit pulls that crutch out from under him so now what does he have to fall back on as an excuse? 

I thought it was curious when in an interview he was asked what he learned through his experience on The Bachelor.  He said he learned a lot about how production works behind the scenes.  Not the answer of a reflective man.

see2love wrote:I think it is quite interesting that TBTP managed to hide the connection Becca had with Chris up until now, some people think it came out of nowhere that Chris is this invested in her but some of us saw this develop over the episodes.

IA - that's why I wasn't sold on the spoiler.

northernviewer wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that Becca was probably going to be the one to go home, but Chris was too afraid to let her go after she just admitted she was a virgin, in fear of being labeled a major jerk for doing so?  

The way I saw it last night is he is really into Becca. Whatever happened in the FS left unanswered questions. They spent I don't know how many minutes showcasing the agony he was in after their FS date along with Becca walking the beach. They have a shot of I LUV YOU on the rocks/breakwall. Does he let her go because she's not sure, and keep Kaitlyn who seemed sure but he really wants Becca. That's why apparently CH told him to have another talk with her. Whitney is a for sure thing in getting a rose as we've heard her tell him she's willing to do whatever it takes, even though she tweeted she'd never leave her job.

He's been looking for someone who wants to move to Arlington. He has two that are willing, one that isn't at that moment. Why bother having a special talk with her and end up keeping her. He might as well have let her go. That would have been a good exit line. She's not willing to move.

I'm not bothered by the way he throws out the I'm falling in love with three women. They all do.

JMHO

soccermom333 wrote:The one thing that bothers me about Chris and this season is it seems like he only wants to pick the woman most likely to marry him and pop out babies, not pick the one he loves the most.  I know he loves Arlington, and the girls all knew this but my gosh, it is like Chris is not willing to compromise on anything!  

At least looks that way now.  

  IIRC, Brad was uncompromising about moving too and I'm sure there were others.  That's the beauty of being a lead. You call the shots. 
 If you look at the couples who are married all the women have moved to where the men live other than Ashley and JP.

As far as who Chris loves the most, at this point people can only guess based upon a highly edited show.   I've maintained all season that Chris will use his heart and head to make this decision.  If he loves one more than the other he will pick that person.  If he has equal feelings for the F2 he will pick the girl who wants the future he wants in the timeframe he wants it.  IMO, I think his relationship with Whitney is much further along than with Becca.  Whitney has all her boxes checked while Becca still has a way to go.  I think Chris is more invested in Whitney than Becca.  He certainly wasn't questioning sending Whitney home last night.

KB_Mom wrote:^Thanks albean.  I really thought I was a minority of one and that everyone sees something that I am just missing.

Nope. I have seen "it" with Whitney and continue to do so. One rocky boat ride hasn't changed my mind.

He admires Becca's character. I think character and poise are very important to him. He is attracted to her beauty. He is still curious about her.

The RC talk with Becca was producer suggested (CH blog admits it). They had an awkward conversation, and CS was doubting her somehow, thinking maybe Kaitlyn should be his F2. But, after their little chat, it was "Miss Virgin" versus "Miss You Can Plow my Fields Anytime". And the Virgin lived to see another day. That's all. She's still going to end up as F2, IMO. He would have looked like a douche if he sent the affirmed virgin home after she didn't sleep with him. Can't you just hear the cries of outrage now?

As for Whitney giving up her career... I think she is mature enough to do what is right for herself. Life has many spigots of joy and satisfaction. Sometimes, mostly when you are younger, you can guzzle from one spigot to quench your thirst. As you age, however, more often than not you must get your face wet rushing from one spigot to another...juggling, juggling, forever juggling. It is a modern woman's life challenge. None of us really know what Whitney will choose to do career-wise now or in the future. It's her choice. Just like it would be for any of them that moved to Arlington.

Maybe he ends up picking Becca after all, and the reason they showed us the indecision is to use the fact that he almost sent his true love home yada yada yada to sell the love story. Just processing my thoughts out loud