Episode 12 - 8/1 After the Final Rose - Discussion - Spoilers

happyvalleygirl wrote:

noobsleuth wrote:OMG is it possible agent currently knows the outcome?!?! Jealous!

DO we know when filming started?? Its almost 6 east coast time...which means almost 3 west coast time. Don't we have some people on the board that have gone in the past?? Do we know when these shindigs start??

Even if it started at 1 something like someone said, it could easily be 7 or 8 before it ends...based on past experiences. I've left far, far later than that, too...so that may be very optimistic, especially if it was starting closer to 2.

They never get you in on time, you have to go through security, leave phones, they bring in the 'faux audience' members (actors, largely the ones that ask questions), they bring in a horribly crass "comedy" guy to warm the audience up, legal comes out and they go over the contract you sign and reiterate the no leaks punishable by tons of money fine, they film tons of audience reaction shots (turn to your neighbor and look shocked, laugh with people around you, etc.), then you watch the episode (typically minus the flashback and, in all that I've been to, minus the previews at the end), then they bring out family/friends of the leads. THEN they film...and that part alone tends to be at least an hour more of footage than the show needs... Then they usually have Chris film some 'pick ups' and transitions and reshoot a few things they need, etc.

So it's a very long process. I suspect we'll not hear from them until around the time the show really begins to air live out west here.

Kashathediva wrote:

sublime wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:I am sorry, but I must stand up and say that this is just completely and totally disrespectful. I thought we had all been asked to refrain from any personal attacks or insults directed at forum members.

What people think or feel or believe is NOT laughable! Characterizing it in this way is in no way a substitute for a coherent, reasonable argument or point of view.

As a matter of fact, viewers can watch the same thing and come away with different impressions. That is what makes us human.

I would hope that this comment will not prevent people from coming here and continuing to express their thoughts. There is an old saying that feelings aren't right or wrong, they just are!

Thank you ... I mainly lurk because I'm sure a lot of my impressions would be laughable and even to some.

Don't worry about crazy. You have plenty of competition here from that end.

Cari wrote: *there'snowmyslowclapemoticon*




As I said in my previous post, "and you wonder why your posts are met with sarcasm"?

I find it so hard and weird when some come on here and demand that respect is shown when they don't show others respect either..........how is it a one way street? Not to mention there are some that continually get ganged up on here........verry disappointing............this board was good for the majority, till sides were drawn and if you are not on the popular side, then your opinion and thoughts are ganged up on.........entirely very sad. Again, I was shown complete disrespect earlier and when I mentioned it, again I was pounced on for it. I just don't get that.

Reality Mary wrote:

Beeleever wrote:

atlanta1221 wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:I am sorry, but I must stand up and say that this is just completely and totally disrespectful. I thought we had all been asked to refrain from any personal attacks or insults directed at forum members.

What people think or feel or believe is NOT laughable! Characterizing it in this way is in no way a substitute for a coherent, reasonable argument or point of view.

As a matter of fact, viewers can watch the same thing and come away with different impressions. That is what makes us human.

I would hope that this comment will not prevent people from coming here and continuing to express their thoughts. There is an old saying that feelings aren't right or wrong, they just are!

Thank you for the integrity and respect you bring to this board Nativenewyorker. I am so happy to have you here. :brav:

I second that! Well said Nativenewyorker!

Does anyone else find all this disrespect quite frustrating?

I get shown disrespect and that's okay.........some claim that I have shown others disrespect and I get pounced all over for it..........enough already. What do you all want from me?????????????????????

mnmhughes wrote:

Coastal wrote:

Nativenewyorker wrote:I am sorry, but I must stand up and say that this is just completely and totally disrespectful. I thought we had all been asked to refrain from any personal attacks or insults directed at forum members.

What people think or feel or believe is NOT laughable! Characterizing it in this way is in no way a substitute for a coherent, reasonable argument or point of view.

As a matter of fact, viewers can watch the same thing and come away with different impressions. That is what makes us human.

I would hope that this comment will not prevent people from coming here and continuing to express their thoughts. There is an old saying that feelings aren't right or wrong, they just are!

Disrespect can be a two way street...........if it wasn't shown in the first place, it probably woulnd't be returned.......just as a post from ironcat was extremely disrespectful to me earlier..........just sayin!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please stop. If it seems like you're attacked and disrespected everytime you come here, figure out what the common denominator is.

MNM are you saying that I am the cause of everyone's Problems?????????????????????????????????????????

Time to pour yourself a glass of preferred beverage and head to the TV, you east coasters.

Time to pour yourself a glass of preferred beverages and step away from the screens for a while - unless you're getting scoopage on tonight's epi, you west coasters.

As for those in the middle, you're gonna have to figure out when the show is airing. Can't help ya there. Maybe call the Press Secretary...

Welcome Bet2Win and kikora!~

:smileywelcome:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:Honestly, if it weren't for my enjoyment of watching JP, and seeing him fall for Ashley, this season would have been a bust for me as far as entertainment. Boring dates for the most part. I commend all the non-JP fans for sticking it out actually, I wouldn't have.

I for one saw a different love story happening, equally as fixating to enjoy watching the show.

Sorry, I'm confused. I thought you said you were a neutral poster. If you were fixated by a love story, that doesn't sound very neutral or dispassionate to me.

Just because I am neutral, doesn't mean I don't have eyes and can see a different love story happening. :Nod:

now that's laughable

northernviewer wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:Honestly, if it weren't for my enjoyment of watching JP, and seeing him fall for Ashley, this season would have been a bust for me as far as entertainment. Boring dates for the most part. I commend all the non-JP fans for sticking it out actually, I wouldn't have.

I for one saw a different love story happening, equally as fixating to enjoy watching the show.

Sorry, I'm confused. I thought you said you were a neutral poster. If you were fixated by a love story, that doesn't sound very neutral or dispassionate to me.

Just because I am neutral, doesn't mean I don't have eyes and can see a different love story happening. :Nod:

now that's laughable

There are very few of us who are truly neutral on this board - being able to see both love stories happening, and being able to look at the edit through it is something I haven't seen many posters do on this board (or even on FORT previous seasons) This show is edited to make us root for one person over another, but it's not fair to claim neutrality while attempting to get everyone to see only one of the stories.

I see a story with both Ben and JP, but I see the more viable, stronger connection with JP. I wouldn't dream of trying to get the Bashley shippers to change their mind just because of that, though, we're all entitled to our opinion. Either way, this is a moot point - we just got confirmation from AgentCurls, we can enjoy the last week of B'ette 7 :Woah-hoo:

HAPPY FOR ASHLEY & JP!!!!

ninu wrote:

northernviewer wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:Honestly, if it weren't for my enjoyment of watching JP, and seeing him fall for Ashley, this season would have been a bust for me as far as entertainment. Boring dates for the most part. I commend all the non-JP fans for sticking it out actually, I wouldn't have.

I for one saw a different love story happening, equally as fixating to enjoy watching the show.

Sorry, I'm confused. I thought you said you were a neutral poster. If you were fixated by a love story, that doesn't sound very neutral or dispassionate to me.

Just because I am neutral, doesn't mean I don't have eyes and can see a different love story happening. :Nod:

now that's laughable

There are very few of us who are truly neutral on this board - being able to see both love stories happening, and being able to look at the edit through it is something I haven't seen many posters do on this board (or even on FORT previous seasons) This show is edited to make us root for one person over another, but it's not fair to claim neutrality while attempting to get everyone to see only one of the stories.

I see a story with both Ben and JP, but I see the more viable, stronger connection with JP. I wouldn't dream of trying to get the Bashley shippers to change their mind just because of that, though, we're all entitled to our opinion. Either way, this is a moot point - we just got confirmation from AgentCurls, we can enjoy the last week of B'ette 7 :Woah-hoo:

I am not trying to get people to change their mind, I am just hoping that I would get a little respect for my opinion that seems to be shunned on so quickly here. Didn't think that was asking for a lot.............

northernviewer wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:

Coastal wrote:

ironcat wrote:Honestly, if it weren't for my enjoyment of watching JP, and seeing him fall for Ashley, this season would have been a bust for me as far as entertainment. Boring dates for the most part. I commend all the non-JP fans for sticking it out actually, I wouldn't have.

I for one saw a different love story happening, equally as fixating to enjoy watching the show.

Sorry, I'm confused. I thought you said you were a neutral poster. If you were fixated by a love story, that doesn't sound very neutral or dispassionate to me.

Just because I am neutral, doesn't mean I don't have eyes and can see a different love story happening. :Nod:

now that's laughable

Thanks so much for the gracious respect that you are showing here..........