Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - FD- LCD - FRC - F1/2/3 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

nutty1 wrote:

notarose wrote:Worst/Best date
http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20904433,00.html

Aww, that was sweet.

Lucas15 Today at 4:39 am

@MiniDiva wrote:In the limo caps, the sun is out in Whitney's cap as if it is setting and the same thing is happening with Chris in the Barn holding the rose. Becca is out in an overcast weather. Per a tweeter, it was horrible weather that day but maybe it cleared up and the sun came out.JMO.


I agree with your observations. Becca's picture in the limo shows soft diffuse lighting - consistent with a cloudy or overcast day. But Whitney's picture shows sharply defined shadows on the rear seat of the limo consistent with a sunny day. In point of fact (as opposed to conjecture) the weather did clear up but not until later in the day.

The weather for KOLZ (the closest airport to Arlington, IA) the day of the FRC shows sunrise at 7:08 AM and sunset at 4:39 PM. From sunrise until 1:55 PM it was foggy and overcast, by 2:15 PM it was scattered clouds and it didn't clear until 2:35 PM. From 2:35 PM until sunset it was clear. So IMHO the picture of Becca had to have been taken sometime after sunrise but no later than 2:15 PM and the picture of Whitney had to have been taken no earlier than 2:35 PM but not later than sunset at 4:39 PM - that's the only way to match the lighting we see with the weather that day for Arlington.

My opinion is the screen caps make Becca's RC first (the F2 slot) and Whitney's later in the day (the F1 slot).

Aunties_Love wrote:I am going to disagree.  I too have been sleuthing things out online and according to accuweather, in which you can actually look up the town of Arlngton itself, the weather was foggy up and until approx. 1pm where it then began a cloudy, sunny, foggy mix.  

Here are the daily stats for Arlington.


Arlington, Iowa Daily Weather Statistics For November 22 2014

Arlington, Iowa hourly temperature graph for November 22 2014

Arlington, IA Sunrise: 07:11
Arlington, IA Sunset: 16:34

Daily Recorded High Temperature: 52.0
Daily Low Recorded Temperature: 32.0
Daily Recorded Average: 40.3



I am only bringing this post here so we can all see what's actually happening and that this may NOT be in Whitney's favor.

Jeepers wrote:And then proceeded to clear up .. To blue skies .. As seen in Whitneys limo pic .. Beccas limo pic .. And the pic of her at the window ..  show cloudy and indirect fused lighting .. No blue sky there

Kashathediva wrote:The bottom line is one photo is cloudy and the other is blue skies.

Lucas15 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:I am going to disagree.  I too have been sleuthing things out online and according to accuweather, in which you can actually look up the town of Arlngton itself, the weather was foggy up and until approx. 1pm where it then began a cloudy, sunny, foggy mix.  

Here are the daily stats for Arlington.


Arlington, Iowa Daily Weather Statistics For November 22 2014

Arlington, Iowa hourly temperature graph for November 22 2014

Arlington, IA Sunrise: 07:11
Arlington, IA Sunset: 16:34

Daily Recorded High Temperature: 52.0
Daily Low Recorded Temperature: 32.0
Daily Recorded Average: 40.3



I am only bringing this post here so we can all see what's actually happening and that this may NOT be in Whitney's favor.

I didn't post all the raw data I have - only a couple of specific hours. The actual source for my data is Weather Underground - a service I have a lot of experience with from working on smart phone weather apps some years ago. Their hour by hour data for the closest full reporting weather station to Arlington, IA - KLOZ is:

Time (CST) Temp. Conditions
6:55 AM 33.8 °F Fog
7:15 AM 33.8 °F Fog
7:35 AM 33.8 °F Fog
7:55 AM 33.8 °F Fog
8:15 AM 33.8 °F Fog
8:35 AM 33.8 °F Fog
8:55 AM 33.8 °F Fog
9:15 AM 35.6 °F Fog
9:35 AM 35.6 °F Fog
9:55 AM 35.6 °F Fog
10:15 AM 35.6 °F Fog
10:35 AM 35.6 °F Fog
10:55 AM 37.4 °F Fog
11:15 AM 37.4 °F Fog
11:35 AM 39.2 °F Fog
11:55 AM 39.2 °F Fog
12:15 PM 39.2 °F Fog
12:35 PM 41.0 °F Overcast
1:15 PM 42.8 °F Overcast
1:35 PM 44.6 °F Overcast
1:55 PM 46.4 °F Overcast
2:15 PM 48.2 °F Scattered Clouds
2:35 PM 48.2 °F Clear
2:55 PM 50.0 °F Clear
3:15 PM 50.0 °F Clear
3:55 PM 48.2 °F Clear
4:15 PM 48.2 °F Clear
4:35 PM 46.4 °F Clear
4:55 PM 46.4 °F Clear
5:15 PM 44.6 °F Clear
5:35 PM 42.8 °F Scattered Clouds

Lucas15 wrote:

Kashathediva wrote:The bottom line is one photo is cloudy and the other is blue skies.

^^ Once the sun came out that day - it stayed out until after sunset. Any photo showing sunlight / blue skies had to have been taken sometime after around 2:30 PM. Any photo taken that day showing cloudy conditions had to have been taken before about 2:00 PM when it was still cloudy.