Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - FD- LCD - FRC - F1/2/3 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

relaxing wrote:When I first saw Litta's analysis of the preview I loved it and totally agree Becca seemed like F1.  Even though though I was spoiled.  That sunset pic is the F1 shot to me.  Then, as Whitney has consistently kept talking confidently about marrying Chris and how sure she is they'll be together, I've felt more and more nervous for her.

Now with the building love story they've given Chris and Becca since ep6 I can only see it being her.  That HTD showed a man fall in love, IMO.  And the difference in Chris on their FD was obvious to me.

I think either RS got it wrong and because the spoiler is out there TPTB are laying Becca and Chris' love story right out there for us to see, since many won't believe it anyway. Or Becca bows out as the tabloids imply, which would be a really sucky ending for the final couple, so I hope not.

sparkler wrote:I agree with the above posts. I remember Catherine was a nervous wreck while Lindsey seemed so confident going into the final rose ceremony on Sean's season. I think Courtney said in her book that she had a lot of producer driven doubt on the final day. Whitney has been front and center this whole season saying that she will be Chris's wife etc....edit wise I agree with you. I also see in the pictures how Chris just lights up in Bali in the presence of Becca. I think he likes and respects Whitney but as other have said he looks bored on that boat. Or maybe distracted is a better word. She does fit the perfect wife on paper but as in Sean's season, when Lindsey was the perfect wife on paper, he wasn't feeling it. This will be so interesting to watch....

lurker11 wrote:Yeah, I agree. My opinion on this is colored by how little I think of Chris' emotional capabilities.  I honestly don't think he can empathize much with other's situations, he can't identify with a sisterly bond or a small sisterly fight. Like when Whitney was talking about her mom dying and the only question he could think of was "what happened" instead of asking Whitney something about her experience.  I also don't think he handled Juelia well and don't even get me started on the sigh he let out after Becca said she was a virgin

notarose wrote:Hmbach, I really like the way you laid out your analysis. Great read.

Becca
At one time I thought intimacy, in the traditional sense, was going to be Becca's obstacle however the fact that the edit intentionally has shown a series of hand actions from early on to the present makes me question this.  Yes, the edit keeps showing more hand scenes each date but honestly the only "overcoming" would be what exactly? Even at her HTD when her mom said her daughter wasn't intimate/didn't hold hands and her sister basically said Becca wasn't physically affectionate, we the audience had already witnessed hand play and a fair amount of kissing.  Physical intimacy, in the case of Becca, seems to be more of an obstacle to Becca's family in terms of them thinking she hasn't been when viewers know she has.  I can't fathom what more Becca would have to overcome at the FRC regarding physical intimacy. 
Going with the obstacle theory, I would say her never having been in love is an obstacle.  I find it interesting that she tells the story, from week to week, of what new feeling she is experiencing and where on the spectrum of love she feels it applies. It's very sweet, like watching Bambi on ice.  If this is in fact her obstacle then her end challenge will be to be able to determine if this "love"(should it come to that) with Chris is to be her last love or if it was merely an awakening that she will take with her & into her next relationship.

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truelovealways wrote:
If that's the case that would lead to Whit being F2 no? She has been confident and think she has had this in the bag since her 1 on 1 and is *SO* sure about them. Much like Chantal was in Brads season. Where as Becca is not as sure and even told Whitney that she thought she was going home last week. TPTB love those shocked f2 reactions of not being picked.

I was responding to what mprssdbyu wrote....

Whitney (who I believe is F1) is confident but then TPTB whisper sweet nothings into her ear, "Gee Whit, I just don't see Chris being that into you. I wouldn't quit your job just yet. Did you notice he gave Becca a necklace?". So she starts to get insecure and doubtful.:shocked!:

Becca (who I believe is F2) isn't sure where she stands or how she feels but TPTB start whispering sweet nothings in her ear,"We are really starting to see that you're the one. Do you have a wedding planner? August is always a great month for a wedding don't you think?". She starts to believe that Chris is for sure proposing AND has baby names picked out. Freaks her out a little bit and she doesn't know what she will do when he proposes.:shocked!:

TPTB are so cleaver manipulative....

I may be doing it again...maybe this is in the wrong thread?!? If so, feel free to move it.... This should be in the C and W Fan Forum....

I don't really think we should be comparing Whitney to Becca in the Becca thread.  Both are great girls and BOTH were manipulated by TPTB I can promise you.    

My post wasn't compare them at all, my point was that TPTB manipulate. I also agree both are great girls. If my post should be moved please do so.

notarose wrote:Hmbach, I really like the way you laid out your analysis. Great read.

Becca
At one time I thought intimacy, in the traditional sense, was going to be Becca's obstacle however the fact that the edit intentionally has shown a series of hand actions from early on to the present makes me question this.  Yes, the edit keeps showing more hand scenes each date but honestly the only "overcoming" would be what exactly? Even at her HTD when her mom said her daughter wasn't intimate/didn't hold hands and her sister basically said Becca wasn't physically affectionate, we the audience had already witnessed hand play and a fair amount of kissing.  Physical intimacy, in the case of Becca, seems to be more of an obstacle to Becca's family in terms of them thinking she hasn't been when viewers know she has.  I can't fathom what more Becca would have to overcome at the FRC regarding physical intimacy. 
Going with the obstacle theory, I would say her never having been in love is an obstacle.  I find it interesting that she tells the story, from week to week, of what new feeling she is experiencing and where on the spectrum of love she feels it applies. It's very sweet, like watching Bambi on ice.  If this is in fact her obstacle then her end challenge will be to be able to determine if this "love"(should it come to that) with Chris is to be her last love or if it was merely an awakening that she will take with her & into her next relationship.

GuardianAngel wrote:I have been given information by someone, who has been told they know Becca and has recently hung out with her.

Becca has NOT disclosed who Chris' F1 is. It is their opinion that Becca is acting like she is the F1, however they believe she isn't. It is their opinion she is trying to make other believe she is the F1.