Episode 8 - 7/18 Hometown dates - Discussion - Spoilers

nutty1 wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I'll be happy to examine one of the F2's "packages", if it would help in sleuthing!

nutty-- I can't wait for the new information you can share with us!!

Shall I take pics with my cell phone???

Kelad9 wrote:But Edit also showed that she said Total package for me in regards to Dino for HTD as well. so I think we really shouldn't be concentrating on those words all that much to pinpoint who is F1 IMO.

Alanna wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:Kelad, you make a great point regarding Constantine-- up until his HTD, I knew nothing of him. Don't know why they couldn't have shown a little more of his personality earlier.

Lucas15 wrote:

Coastal wrote:Then what about this from Ashley's blog after epi 5 Chiang Mai date...........it was the first time she used the phrase total package.

I think this was later negated when she said that JP was the total package for her which is a much stronger statement.

The problem with hanging any hat on the "total package" phrase is that she's used it a lot, and it is used a lot on every show, and some of the guys she's used it about have already been sent home. Best I think to ignore that phrase as having much meaning.

Lucas, thanks for bringing this up. When she said it, she seemed to emphasize "for me". It was just a little different than what she has stated with anyone else. Much like one would say-- "you're a great guy and have everything a girl could want, it's just that I've fallen in love with...." I think that she has made connections with other guys, it's just that her feelings with her F1 are stronger; and, in my eyes, her F1 is JP. I understand if others see her connection stronger with another-- this is just how I see it. Can't wait to see tonights episode!!

Yep, there's no need to speculate about anything with the phrase "total package." Ashley blogged that Ben is the "total package" in her ep5 blog and said JP is "the total package for me" in ep6 in HK.

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

Ali met Roberto's family down in FL even though Roberto lived in Charleston, SC.

Lucas15 wrote:

BlondieGal wrote:Is the word "package" Bachelor-speak? I have to say that I have never said that about a guy, including my hubby. :giggle:

From what I can see it certainly is. I'm hard pressed to think of a show that I didn't hear it on, and just yesterday I re-watched Ashley's HTD with Brad on B15 and Brad said that "total package" line about Ashley in a VO on that date, who of course was F3 in spite of the fact that Brad said she was the total package.

clueless wrote:I would imagine that a lot of the guys on the show had the total package....Ashley has stated that she was looking for a "feeling", so even tho some have the total package as to what they have to offer a girl they may not have the total package "for her" if they don't give her the feeling she is looking for. Just an opinion of course.

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

Ali met Roberto's family down in FL even though Roberto lived in Charleston, SC.

Maybe I shouldn't have use the words "everyday life." We got to see Ashley participating in something Roberto loved and is a part of him. What did roller stating tell me about JP; but in all fairness, I just recalled hearing something about JP having to change his plans. So maybe we would have seem more of what he is about; but, I doubt it if the edits are correct. jmo

gurlbrit wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO.

JP lives in NYC - Roslyn, NY is on Long Island which is pretty close by, per mapquest its about 24 miles away depending on which part of NYC you live in.

sydney1 wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO.

Ali met Roberto's family down in FL even though Roberto lived in Charleston, SC.

Maybe I shouldn't have use the words "everyday life." We got to see Ashley participating in something Roberto loved and is a part of him. What did roller stating tell me about JP; but in all fairness, I just recalled hearing something about JP having to change his plans. So maybe we would have seem more of what he is about; but, I doubt it if the edits are correct. jmo

Roller skating was a big part of JP growing up, infact he told Ashley that at lest one in every fourth birthday party was held at the skating rink. He and his brother spent a lot of time skating. So you did see something that was a part of his life and something that he loved doing.

sydney1 wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

Ali met Roberto's family down in FL even though Roberto lived in Charleston, SC.

Maybe I shouldn't have use the words "everyday life." We got to see Ashley participating in something Roberto loved and is a part of him. What did roller stating tell me about JP; but in all fairness, I just recalled hearing something about JP having to change his plans. So maybe we would have seem more of what he is about; but, I doubt it if the edits are correct. jmo

Roller skating was a big part of JP growing up, infact he told Ashley that at lest one in every fourth birthday party was held at the skating rink. He and his brother spent a lot of time skating. So you did see something that was a part of his life and something that he loved doing.

ironcat wrote:

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

Roslyn is about 10 or 20 miles from NYC. They could have driven in. The producers wanted the date to be in the town JP grew up in. Ashley is no stranger to NYC so I'm sure she already had a good idea of what life is like there.