Episode 8 - 7/18 Hometown dates - Discussion - Spoilers

apenglishronzie wrote:

2observe wrote:
I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

2observe while I see your point that we didn't see much of their daily lives during their HTDs maybe it is because they both were featured in the first episode, we saw JP wandering aimlessly around a market picking out food, then other shots of him at work with a VO of saying he was where he wanted to be professionally. Similarly we saw Ames, discussing his different degrees and talking about how he works on wall street. Perhaps the producers figured they had already shown the audience a glimpse of what daily life is like for the F1 that they didn't feel the need to get more footage of JP at work.

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

2observe wrote:

mnmhughes wrote:

2observe wrote:

CarrieAlexander wrote:

2observe wrote:I didn't learn anything about JP's or Ames' daily lives during their HTDs. We saw what Constantines' life is like and we also saw what Ben's life is like; but, we did not get to see what life is like with JP and Ames. This is another thing to supports my conclusion that JP is not F1.

Ed was missing basically half the season and his family met her in Hawaii, dad even questioned why they were there.. we all know how that ended.
We knew that Roberto liked to play baseball and his mom cooked spanish "stuff"
Emily has a daughter and can't cook mac and cheese.. and again we all know how that ended

I don't think it matters one way or the other. Ames and JP weren't even in the city that THEY live in, they were where their parents live. It would be kind of hard to show their daily life when they aren't even in the right city.

I don't really think it matters one way or the other if we learn about it.

I have to discount Ed because he left the show. No only did we already know that Roberto loved playing baseball, but we the viewers saw that during his HTD, just like with Ben and Constantine. I maybe wrong, but I thought that JP's HTD was in NYC, am I incorrect on this????

It was in Roslyn, NY.

Thanks! IMO, if JP was F1, I think that TPTB could have flown his parents down to NYC, so that Ashley could see what his everyday life is like. But it's JMO. lol

nutty1 wrote:I'll be happy to examine one of the F2's "packages", if it would help in sleuthing!

Alanna wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:Kelad, you make a great point regarding Constantine-- up until his HTD, I knew nothing of him. Don't know why they couldn't have shown a little more of his personality earlier.

Lucas15 wrote:

Coastal wrote:Then what about this from Ashley's blog after epi 5 Chiang Mai date...........it was the first time she used the phrase total package.

I think this was later negated when she said that JP was the total package for her which is a much stronger statement.

The problem with hanging any hat on the "total package" phrase is that she's used it a lot, and it is used a lot on every show, and some of the guys she's used it about have already been sent home. Best I think to ignore that phrase as having much meaning.

Lucas, thanks for bringing this up. When she said it, she seemed to emphasize "for me". It was just a little different than what she has stated with anyone else. Much like one would say-- "you're a great guy and have everything a girl could want, it's just that I've fallen in love with...." I think that she has made connections with other guys, it's just that her feelings with her F1 are stronger; and, in my eyes, her F1 is JP. I understand if others see her connection stronger with another-- this is just how I see it. Can't wait to see tonights episode!!

Yep, there's no need to speculate about anything with the phrase "total package." Ashley blogged that Ben is the "total package" in her ep5 blog and said JP is "the total package for me" in ep6 in HK.

LibbyBell wrote:

nutty1 wrote:I'll be happy to examine one of the F2's "packages", if it would help in sleuthing!

nutty-- I can't wait for the new information you can share with us!!

Bhaka wrote:

2observe wrote:I have a funny feeling that people are going to really dislike Ashley, at the end of this.

2observe, I understand what you're saying because when Jason dumped Melissa for Molly, I "really disliked" him. But I got over it quickly when I saw how happy he was with Molly. I thoroughly enjoyed watching their wedding.

If Ashley doesn't choose JP, I will be sad, but I will blame myself because I fell for the edit once again. It has taken a few seasons, but I think I've finally learned that my disappointment is not the responsibility of the lead.

This has been a strange season for me because I realized that if I were 26 again, and choosing between JP and Ben for myself, I would choose Ben, without a doubt. So why isn't Ben my favorite? Because it doesn't look to me like he's Ashley's favorite. If I'm wrong, oh well, it certainly won't be the first time!